[ADVANCED] WOT Mafia: The Great Hunt - GAME OVER!

[Nightstrike]

So decided I might as well do a reread already, since I got time, and what- you wanna fight about it?

 

*holds up dukes*

 

Setup discussion already? That was fast.

 

Tbh, this does standout somewhat, cause I think 2 people had made all of 3 posts total lightly discussing setup. Not like it was the dominant tone over the first few pages (that would be the whole posting in chinese thing )

 

I'd say the setup hints more at symps than multiple mafia teams.

 

How so? The way the OP reads to me, we prob got regular darkfriends, seanchan, and a couple of loose forsaken that I'm betting are third party. Aaaaand I'm thinking you might be a great candidate for being one of those Forsaken folks.

 

What I tried to put was: Confucius say, "Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day."

 

What it translated to was: Confucius said, "the hole in the pockets of the people are proud of the day."

 

Puns will almost never translate. It's wordplay designed on the fact that words can have two meanings in a certain language, but after translation that won't really be the case. Interestingly enough, because English is such an amalgamation of so many different languages, it's also basically the best language for making puns!

 

(I puns)

 

That makes no sense, but im going to roll with it.

 

*Rolls*

What?! No way!

 

vote Lenlo

 

Oh wait... Im Lenlo...

 

 

unvote

 

While Lenlofinger might just be getting caught up in the spam of the moment here, he does seem to be purposefully making it seem like he considers everything a joke at this phase of the game. Starting to see Player's point...

 

vote LZM

 

WoT13 hasn't earned the right to vote without giving reasons yet. FOS on him.

 

Piano. Your inability to come to America and party is an insult and makes you scum.

 

vote DAP

 

And LZM's post a bit later, makes no mention of WoT13's reasonless vote on him. Could be scumbuddies, or just could be LZM trying not to draw attention to himself.

 

woops.. *checking in

 

Sorry, I just have to comment on something really quick:

 

Sorcha, I'm sorry, but your avatar kinda creeps me out. Something about it... just gives me the heebie jeebies.

 

 

Policy lynch anyone not typing in English.

 

Que?

 

No hablo espanol.

 

Another example of whimsical Lennish

 

I'd say the setup hints more at symps than multiple mafia teams.

 

I am not reading it that way at all, please shed light on this brilliant theory though.

 

Blech. I hate it when we agree on something, especially so early in a game lol.

 

EP the game doesnt divide into 1/4s an large games often do

 

Not sure what this post is saying...

 

So, Player might have something, but I'm not sure I'm willing to vote on his hunch yet, since it's basically based on him thinking someone is too spammy on day 1. Day 1's have gotten more serious lately, but that doesn't mean there aren't still plenty of people that post whimsical stuff day 1.

 

Instead, I'm gonna vote John Snow, since he seems to be throwing out a strange concept of how the game might be structured, considering how the OP reads. I'd bet he's either Lanfear or Ishamael.

Bold and underlined. Also, you were the first (I think you were, cause I haven't seen anyone else before you) to vote John S.

[Nightstrike]

And oh yeah, about my character- obviously I wasn't too happy to see that I drew Ingtar, knowing his role in the books. I even considered coming up with a diff character name, but the last time I tried that when I was town with a questionable character, it blew up in my face. I understand if yall hesitate to believe that Ingtar is town in this game, but I would say that the fact that Verin flipped town should be enough impetus to at least give yall pause before you lynch a town power role. If not, meh, it's yalls loss.

 

Once again, I tracked NotBob last night and saw him target GF. He's scum. Lynch him.

 

Town's been going uphill lately, and if you have some safety or is on a team with other's, then maybe you are prepared to expose yourself for another townie kill?

 

I think I Unvote yet again. Vote Despo .

[hazelkrs1]

Nol, I am going to GREATLY enjoy watching you eat so much crow once this game is over, or once we get NotBob lynched.

 

I like how you ignored pretty much the WHOLE case I had on NotBob, including the part where he said if he had a NK, I'd be dead.

 

Well guess what. Last night was an odd night. And I'm still alive. And he DIDN'T target me, since I saw him target GF.

 

Get real man. Your scumdar is completely broken.

[hazelkrs1]

Uh huh Nightstrike. Keep it coming. Your next either way. Town lynches me, sees that I was telling the truth, and NotBob gets lynched the next day, followed by you.

 

Town lynches NotBob, sees that I was telling the truth, and then lynches you the next day since you are suddenly now so against me after I had the AUDACITY to case you.

 

You're digging your own grave bro.

[hazelkrs1]

Or, Nol is right about the situation being so drastic, which I personally doubt but meh, and town lynches me, then yall get to feel real stupid, and mafia and Forsaken coast to an easy win.

 

Your choice.

[hazelkrs1]

Looking at the number of people left there probably isn't two mafia teams unless there's only like 1-3 town left in the game which I don't think is the case

I believe Notbob's claim of odd night vig and you are scum

 

Just looked at the numbers as well. I doubt there would be more than 7 original antitown roles, so with 13 players left, and one scum down, we're prob looking at a 7-6 split in town's favor today. Mislynch today, and yeah, antitown will hold the majority, but since I still think there are multiple anitown elements left that doesn't mean they'll have won, they prob still gotta take each other out I'd reckon.

 

I have a feeling this game will prob go down to the wire.

 

Anyways, if you believe NotBob's claim, why am I still alive? He claimed that if he had a NK, I would be dead. Yet I'm still here. He's full of it man.

 

And you got blinders on.

 

Either way, lynch NotBob. If he flips town, I'll happily do a jig on the way to the hangman's noose myself

SO SCUMMY OMG

 

Why am I the only one that sees this

 

"Lynch Notbob and if I'm wrong I wont put up a fight tomorrow" = "Please just let me live one more day"

 

No town would ever LET themselves be lynched just because they were wrong about a lynch

In mafia you're bound to have mislynches almost every single game what makes this one special?

Des is just using any excuse to stay alive

Please lynch him now people

 

Honestly, have you ever seen me accept my fate and not defend myself from a lynch? No. The only reason I keep saying this is because A) how confident I am that NotBob is scum and B) because of how hard you've tunneled me.

 

Honestly, I'm pretty much 100% that NotBob is mafia. If you don't believe my claim and results, whatever so be it. I can't force you to change your mind. But I guarantee you'll feel pretty stupid once the game is over.

 

Plus, the way I see it, if for some reason I'm wrong about NotBob and their's something else afoot which gave me the viewing I got, then town is screwed anyways, since yall would speedlynch me tomorrow, see that I was telling the truth, and town would lose anyways.

 

 

 

Before you respond Nol, take a second, step back and breath. Actually consider the possibility that I am telling the truth. Then reread my case on NotBob, and try to view it through unbiased eyes. If you still think the way you do now, then so be it.

[hazelkrs1]

Goin to bed.

 

If I wake up dead, I just wanna say every single one of you that didn't believe me can go Q-Bert yourselves, and I can hold a mafia grudge like the best of em.

 

Oh and I guess I should post a list of my top suspects so yall have SOMETHING in case I die

 

NotBob (obviously), Nightstrike, EP

[hazelkrs1]

Actually, one more thing.

 

Why is EVERYONE ignoring the fact that lolguy apparently has some dirt on NotBob as well? Apparently he's some kind of flavor cop (he saw books around someone, turned out his viewing prob got redirected to RandLoial), and he was the first vote on NotBob.

 

His viewing, w/e it was (it really frustrates me btw that he'd be so inactive with important info like this), coupled with mine, should be PLENTY for yall to go on.

[lolguy26]

Actually, one more thing.

 

Why is EVERYONE ignoring the fact that lolguy apparently has some dirt on NotBob as well? Apparently he's some kind of flavor cop (he saw books around someone, turned out his viewing prob got redirected to RandLoial), and he was the first vote on NotBob.

 

His viewing, w/e it was (it really frustrates me btw that he'd be so inactive with important info like this), coupled with mine, should be PLENTY for yall to go on.

im back , and i havent been inactive(not always) anyway i see notbob said im still role fishing, anyway notbob just answer this (are you seanchen)??

[Nolder]

Nol, I am going to GREATLY enjoy watching you eat so much crow once this game is over, or once we get NotBob lynched.

 

I like how you ignored pretty much the WHOLE case I had on NotBob, including the part where he said if he had a NK, I'd be dead.

 

Well guess what. Last night was an odd night. And I'm still alive. And he DIDN'T target me, since I saw him target GF.

 

Get real man. Your scumdar is completely broken.

You have a point and it is a good one

Maybe he's third party, Fain probably

I have definitely gotten that vibe from him

All I know is nothing short of a coroner report is going to convince me you are town this game

If I'm wrong I'm wrong

If that's the case then we BOTH played a bad game IMHO because what you have done this game does not strike me as protown

[Nolder]

I don't know what to do guys

Everyone I suspect of being mafia is on Notbob

If Notbob is third party and everyone on him IS mafia that makes the split 6-5-1

Assuming that is correct (which it could be even if the people I'm attributing scum/town to are incorrect) and we lynch Desscum today and tonight we lose a town that puts us at 5-4-1 but if we lynch Notbob and he's third party it'll put us at 5-5 tomorrow

That's a loss

 

Now there is a very good chance those numbers aren't right

Probably it's more like 7-4-1 or MAYBE even 8-4 but is it worth losing the game over?

What we have to do is we absolutely have to lynch mafia today

If you honestly think Notbob is mafia than by all means vote him but I do not

If anything he is third party

He's played it safe all game, not picking too many fights and generally laying low and going with the flow

That's not a mafia player to me

Mafia need to direct the town discussion and cause confusion/misinformation and generally lead the town astray

 

I'm going to stick with my vote on Des

[lolguy26]

im not sure if he's mafia, maybe he's part of the third group

 

(unless some mafia power role did something :ph34r: )

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Nol, I am going to GREATLY enjoy watching you eat so much crow once this game is over, or once we get NotBob lynched.

 

I like how you ignored pretty much the WHOLE case I had on NotBob, including the part where he said if he had a NK, I'd be dead.

 

Well guess what. Last night was an odd night. And I'm still alive. And he DIDN'T target me, since I saw him target GF.

 

Get real man. Your scumdar is completely broken.

 

Here is where Despo's logic breaks down.

 

If I targetted GF why is he still alive and yet we had two kills? The fact is I didn't target GF last night. I targeted Despothera. Unfortunately, my Vig kill was not under my control last night. When I asked about this I was told it was controlled not re-directed. Either way Despo is lying.

 

FTR. I shot Lenlo N1.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Actually, one more thing.

 

Why is EVERYONE ignoring the fact that lolguy apparently has some dirt on NotBob as well? Apparently he's some kind of flavor cop (he saw books around someone, turned out his viewing prob got redirected to RandLoial), and he was the first vote on NotBob.

 

His viewing, w/e it was (it really frustrates me btw that he'd be so inactive with important info like this), coupled with mine, should be PLENTY for yall to go on.

im back , and i havent been inactive(not always) anyway i see notbob said im still role fishing, anyway notbob just answer this (are you seanchen)??

 

No. I am Thom Merrilin.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I'm going to say this loud and clear for GF's sake since apparently he's skimming-

 

 

 

I am the town Tracker, and I saw NotBob target GF last night. Almost POSITIVE he's mafia.

 

Care to add your character name with that reveal.

 

BTW you are still lying.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I'm going to say this loud and clear for GF's sake since apparently he's skimming-

 

 

 

I am the town Tracker, and I saw NotBob target GF last night. Almost POSITIVE he's mafia.

 

Just realized the lack of conviction here. Noticed the "almost positive". Already trying to manufacture some wiggle room. Just like when he posed LZM as the scum bomb. The fact is GF can confirm me tonight.

[Nolder]

I'm going to say this loud and clear for GF's sake since apparently he's skimming-

 

 

 

I am the town Tracker, and I saw NotBob target GF last night. Almost POSITIVE he's mafia.

 

Care to add your character name with that reveal.

 

BTW you are still lying.

He claimed Ingtar who was basically a traitor who tried to redeem himself at the end of the book

[Nolder]

Nol, I am going to GREATLY enjoy watching you eat so much crow once this game is over, or once we get NotBob lynched.

 

I like how you ignored pretty much the WHOLE case I had on NotBob, including the part where he said if he had a NK, I'd be dead.

 

Well guess what. Last night was an odd night. And I'm still alive. And he DIDN'T target me, since I saw him target GF.

 

Get real man. Your scumdar is completely broken.

 

Here is where Despo's logic breaks down.

 

If I targetted GF why is he still alive and yet we had two kills? The fact is I didn't target GF last night. I targeted Despothera. Unfortunately, my Vig kill was not under my control last night. When I asked about this I was told it was controlled not re-directed. Either way Despo is lying.

 

FTR. I shot Lenlo N1.

It's possible you targeted GF and were redirected to Rand via Rand's Sidekick ability

ALTHOUGH if that were the case I imagine Des as a Tracker would have followed you to Rand in the first place or to both GF and Rand so again I am led to believe that Des is lying

[Sakaea]

Unvote Vote Des.

 

 

If not bob targeted GF he should be dead. He's not. Ingtar was a traitor in the end. Seems simple enough.

[hazelkrs1]

This game really has elevated my blood pressure. I'm still having trouble seeing why yall don't see the sensible thing here.

 

When I first got my result, I asked Alanna if he had been busdriven or something, and got a PAFO. Every mod is different btw, some will show the original target for a Tracker when there is a redirector of some kind, some show the end result. Anyways, if I was lying, don't you think it would have been far easier to say I saw NotBob target Rand instead?

 

Either way let's suppose for a second I was lying. NotBob says he targeted me last night. Yet I didn't die. So there either would have had to been a roleblocker type role, or a bus driver role that had him target someone else, since I highly doubt Rand would have sidekicked me instead of GF.

 

Then there's lolguy's viewing. He hasn't come out directly and said it, but apparently he's some kind of flavor cop. He apparently viewed NotBob and got that NotBob was Seanchan. NotBob claims this was a lie, and that he is Thom Merrilin. So there would have had to be a separate redirector of some kind that made NotBob look like he was Seanchan, or else lolguy is lying too.

 

So basically, you lynch NotBob, and you'll vet both mine AND lolguy's claim. If NotBob flips town, then you'll know both me AND lolguy are lying.

 

It's really hard to understand why people are ignoring the fact that TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE have role info which led them to vote NotBob, yet yall are ignoring that in favor of Nolder's scumtells.

[hazelkrs1]

Once again, both lolguy AND I BOTH had viewings on NotBob that make it look like he might be antitown.

 

If yall don't lynch him I seriously question the intelligence of the players in this game.

[Nolder]

This game really has elevated my blood pressure. I'm still having trouble seeing why yall don't see the sensible thing here.

That makes two of us

Although I think things are finally starting to look my way

 

Either way let's suppose for a second I was lying. NotBob says he targeted me last night. Yet I didn't die. So there either would have had to been a roleblocker type role, or a bus driver role that had him target someone else, since I highly doubt Rand would have sidekicked me instead of GF.

A mafia redirector would fit that bill

 

Then there's lolguy's viewing. He hasn't come out directly and said it, but apparently he's some kind of flavor cop. He apparently viewed NotBob and got that NotBob was Seanchan. NotBob claims this was a lie, and that he is Thom Merrilin. So there would have had to be a separate redirector of some kind that made NotBob look like he was Seanchan, or else lolguy is lying too.

 

So basically, you lynch NotBob, and you'll vet both mine AND lolguy's claim. If NotBob flips town, then you'll know both me AND lolguy are lying.

 

It's really hard to understand why people are ignoring the fact that TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE have role info which led them to vote NotBob, yet yall are ignoring that in favor of Nolder's scumtells.

If my numbers were right (not saying they are of course) and we lynch Notbob and Notbob is third party it's probably game over

All you would need is this final lynch and kill so you're pushing this as hard as you can

We can't afford to lynch anyone based on promises for tomorrow I don't know why you can't see that

This is potentially LyLo

Again maybe it's not but if it COULD BE we have to treat it like it is

 

Once again, both lolguy AND I BOTH had viewings on NotBob that make it look like he might be antitown.

 

If yall don't lynch him I seriously question the intelligence of the players in this game.

lolguy never said exactly what he saw did he?

[hazelkrs1]

lolguy never said he saw anything specifically, but he asked NotBob if he was Seanchan.

 

Let's be honest. Lolguy isn't exactly the most seasoned player, so he doesn't see the best way to lay his "case" out.

 

But you know and I know that he's basically claiming flavor cop. If you think he's lying as well as me, then fine, don't lynch NotBob. But I am going to shove the fact that I'm right so hard in your face afterwards we'll prob not be friends for a bit

[Nolder]

I'm not denying his claim I was just wondering if he ever said what he saw

[hazelkrs1]

The unthinkable has happened. Fades and Trollocs attacked Lord Agelmar's keep in Fal Dara. Darkfriends walked the halls. Padan Fain escaped with the dagger from Shadar Logoth, and the Horn of Valere was stolen.

 

The Horn and the dagger must be retrieved. Without the dagger, Mat will die. And the Horn of Valere, in the hands of the Shadow, could be catastrophic.

 

Meanwhile, rumors are whispered everywhere of ships coming from the west, ships bearing the strange invaders. Some say they are the descendants of Artur Hawkwing come back.

 

Darkfriends are hidden everywhere. Among the Aes Sedai. Among the invaders. Among Lord Agelmar's solders and people. And, even worse, the Forsaken are breaking free of their prison...

 

 

The Hunt has begun.

 

...............................

 

Day 1 begins. Your deadline is Wednesday, September 12 @ 2PM CST. (You get a little extra time on Day 1).

 

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Final Day 2 Vote Count:

LZM (1) - LZM

Peace (11) - Despo, Darthe, Player, Shinori, notbob, EP, BG, Sakaea, JLM, GF, lolguy

Despo (1) - Peace

 

Not Voting (6) : Turin, Tink, Niel, Nightstrike, Rand, dice

 

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Renna walks up the street, heading back to the house where the rest of the sul'dam and damane are staying. The sun is setting over Falme. Suddenly, lightning comes down from the sky, seemingly from nowhere, to strike at her. The day had been clear. The lightning could not be of natural causes. Burnt to a crisp, Renna falls dead in the street.

 

(Peace) Renna, Mafia Vote Thief, has been lynched.

 

It is now Night. You have until Wednesday, September 19 @ 6PM CST to get your night actions in. If you don't want to use your night action, then please send me a PM to let me know.

 

http://encyclopaedia-wot.org/characters/r/renna.html

 

Renna is the sul'dam that collars Egwene in TGH. Seanchan are mafia in this game Nol.

 

Unless you think Seanchan and Darkfriends are working together, which is ridiculous, then you HAVE to see that we have competing mafia teams.

 

This means we're prob not close to lylo yet.

 

You're stubborn to the point of ignorance man.