[BASIC] Terminator Mafia: TOWN AND SK WIN!

[RandA lThor]

Poet voted for jack, not jack and me :)

[Razen]

It looks like the number 2 is quite popular.

 

I don't get where Jack is going at all, which makes me doubt his alignment. I'm watching you, bro.

 

The thing that sticks out to me the most is EP. He seemed to be trying awfully hard to discredit Jack. One of these two is mafia. I'll keep my vote where it is until something better comes along.

 

I have not tried to discredit Jack at all I'm pretty sure I said I was making a joke at his expense before this post Lily you get mad about word twisting and words getting put in your mouth yet you did just the same

 

FoS for inconsistency, I will keep my vote on BG for now for the purpose of competeing trains

 

I wouldn't quite say we have trains yet, but I'm not sure that's a good reason to keep a vote anywhere. This kinda pings me. Just saying. :P

 

I agree with Poet here. 2 votes on four players doesn't equal trains. I think you're trying to think of a reason not to move your vote, and that was the only reason you could find.

 

I still don't like how Maw played follow the leader and admitted to blatantly bandwagoning Jack:

 

I suppose i'll follow Jack's lead. He seems to know what he's doing. VOTE KAYLEE.

 

I'm going to place my vote on Maw.

[Basel Gill]

Fixed.

 

It is Day 1. A deadline is now in effect. The deadline for reaching a majority is Monday, June 11th, at 9 PM EST. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Vote count:

 

Peace (1): AJ

Kaylee (1): Maw

Jack (2): Lily, Poet

BG (2): Kaylee, EP

Rand (1): BG

Lily (2): Jack, Peace

Maw (1): Razen

 

Not voting: NS

 

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[Sedai]

@Poet Maw followed me onto Kay. Since the. I have moved my vote and Maw hasn't followed. To Come to the conclusion that I'm a good player. You would also have to conclude that I would expressly warn against instant follow votes on the QT if I were scum.

 

Sure I'm pushing. You are pushing on me and providing evidence because you find my actions scummy. But to say you are voting me for pushing, well then you should vote yourself. :p

 

That is the function of cases

[RandA lThor]

@Poet Maw followed me onto Kay. Since the. I have moved my vote and Maw hasn't followed. To Come to the conclusion that I'm a good player. You would also have to conclude that I would expressly warn against instant follow votes on the QT if I were scum.

 

Sure I'm pushing. You are pushing on me and providing evidence because you find my actions scummy. But to say you are voting me for pushing, well then you should vote yourself. :p

 

That is the function of cases

 

I agree with this, but you could be trying a double negative if you are that good, saying that you wouldn't want instant follows, than Maw instant follows, or he made a mistake and you told him not to follow you again until later. Not sure, I'll keep an eye on you.

[Sedai]

I implore you to. If you didn't I would think you were scum.

[poetstorm]

@Poet Maw followed me onto Kay. Since the. I have moved my vote and Maw hasn't followed. To Come to the conclusion that I'm a good player. You would also have to conclude that I would expressly warn against instant follow votes on the QT if I were scum.

 

Sure I'm pushing. You are pushing on me and providing evidence because you find my actions scummy. But to say you are voting me for pushing, well then you should vote yourself. :p

 

That is the function of cases

 

Well, I didn't push on you until after your comments on Kaylee and Rand...I was too busy pulling my hairs out at work. :P LOL I just don't think there was enough to go on to justify your comments on both Rand and Kayleee being so strong, so I ondered if it was an attempt to manipulate.

 

But you are right that Maw didn't follow all the way through, though it still bothers me. I used to play "follow the leader" when I was new but not anymore.

 

Well then, fair is fair you could vote me for being equally pushy. :P

[Sedai]

Rand seemed in the dark about the set up. If he was mafia he would know.

 

The converse is true for Kay

[Kaylee]

I can see your point, Though I was just making an observation.

[Kaylee]

My thoughts so far...

 

Maw-Bandwagon votes me

 

EP-Votes BG because he feels BG's post was a "HA nice way to fail" post. Says he wasn't discrediting Jack, but was making a joke at his expense...FoS's Lily for twisting his words...keeps his vote on BG for the purpose of competing trains...

 

The last part really stood out to me.

 

Then we have 3 people with two votes each:

 

Lily-Thinks there are probably 3 scum...states she doesn't know where Jack is going and doubts his alignment...EP sticks out the most to her..Says she didn't try to dissuade Jack..Accuses Peace of being mafia based on this.

 

Jack-Plays his trap...believes Rand to be new and town...says EP's post was scummier, lists reasons why, leaves his vote on me...State a theory on likelihood of a newbie being on the scum team..Switches his vote to Lily and gives reasons here.

 

BG-Comments on Jack's trap saying he ruined it...Votes Rand based on meta...

 

For now I'll leave my vote.

[Nightstrike]

Jack-Plays his trap...believes Rand to be new and town...says EP's post was scummier, lists reasons why, leaves his vote on me...State a theory on likelihood of a newbie being on the scum team..Switches his vote to Lily and gives reasons here.

Yeah, I found that behaviour suspicious from the beginning. I think I will have to vote on him after all. There are a couple of other candidates, but none as good as Jack. Therefore I vote Jack .

[Gabriel Kross]

I don't get where Jack is going at all, which makes me doubt his alignment. I'm watching you, bro.

 

The thing that sticks out to me the most is EP. He seemed to be trying awfully hard to discredit Jack. One of these two is mafia. I'll keep my vote where it is until something better comes along.

 

I have not tried to discredit Jack at all I'm pretty sure I said I was making a joke at his expense before this post Lily you get mad about word twisting and words getting put in your mouth yet you did just the same

 

FoS for inconsistency, I will keep my vote on BG for now for the purpose of competeing trains

 

I wouldn't quite say we have trains yet, but I'm not sure that's a good reason to keep a vote anywhere. This kinda pings me. Just saying. :P

 

well I have my vote there for a reason, I was just explaining why I am not switching my vote while FoSing ontop of the initial reason for voting.

[Basel Gill]

It is Day 1. The deadline for reaching a majority is Monday, June 11th, at 9 PM EST. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Vote count:

 

Peace (1): AJ

Kaylee (1): Maw

Jack (3): Lily, Poet, NS

BG (2): Kaylee, EP

Rand (1): BG

Lily (2): Jack, Peace

Maw (1): Razen

 

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[Sedai]

I love how playing the game and getting action started is "suspicious"

 

Night why is it suspicious, my play so far. I find that terribly scummy reason because basically you just bandwagoned and didnt give a reason.

[Nightstrike]

Jack-Plays his trap...believes Rand to be new and town...says EP's post was scummier, lists reasons why, leaves his vote on me...State a theory on likelihood of a newbie being on the scum team..Switches his vote to Lily and gives reasons here.

Yeah, I found that behaviour suspicious from the beginning. I think I will have to vote on him after all. There are a couple of other candidates, but none as good as Jack. Therefore I vote Jack .

I thought I'd stated the reason, but ... The switching here and there, the FoSs, and the shaky ground on which you based your first vote (and that I commented on earlier).

[Sedai]

1) it was the most informative vote I could of made at the time.

2) changed my vote to lily who posted the most scummy material this game

3) you can change your vote. That's why there is a such thing as a no vote

4) Never posted an FoS I voted. Said EP's one post was more scummy then Kay for the defense post of one vote on Key, then said lily was teh most scummy and placed my vote where I thought it to be most effective.

 

Again half the things you said I did, I didn't. The other half everyone has or will do this game. Like unvote. Just saying.

[Nightstrike]

Peace thought Lily overreacted, but is it really likely that Jack and Lily are both on the mafia team? I'm almost suspecting that there are no women on the mafia team, since Jack (who I believe is mafia) seem to focus on 2 out of 4 women so far. He also says he suspects there are at least one beginner (out of 3?), which I believe could indicate that there are no beginners at all.

[Nightstrike]

I would have edited that post if I could. English isn't my mother tongue, so excuse my bad english.

[Nightstrike]

Peace thought Lily overreacted, but is it really likely that Jack and Lily are both on the mafia team? I'm almost suspecting that there are no women on the mafia team, since Jack (who I believe is mafia) seem to focus on 2 out of 4 women so far. He also says he suspects there are at least one beginner (out of 3?), which I believe could indicate that there are no beginners at all.

This is, of course, if I'm right and Jack really is mafia. I'm convinced, but I've never played with him before. One of the drawbacks of being a beginner.

[Sedai]

Really?

 

I've got no vendetta against women. I love Lily she is my sister.

 

I said most likely there is a new player on the mafia

Most likely there are three mafiosos

 

So instead of analyzing 11 people I focused on three. I posted a question to gauge their knowledge and made logical guesses from there.

 

Then there are infinite possibilities that my post could mean. Here are four common thoughts when someone analyzes posts.

 

That's why they call it a wifom. Will you drink the wine I'm giving you. Or the wine I have given myself?

 

Maybe you voting me is a secret gambit we cooked up to vet the other player.

 

Maybe i am mafia with lily and we are fighting early so no one suspects us.

 

Maybe I'm town and my trap worked

 

Maybe I'm town an my trap didn't work

 

Why are you convinced? Only mafia know alignments from the start?

[Nightstrike]

Yeah, you do seem almost too bold to be a mafia. I don't know if a mafia would be likely to take such an active part in the debate as you have, considering there's probably (?) a finder or someone like that ... In my very limited experience that's something a mafia would fear, so I guess that speaks in your favor.

[Nightstrike]

Mafioso, not mafia.

[bgrishinko]

Jack, you just don't like it that I'm watching you. Deal.

 

You're blowing smoke. I didn't try to dissuade the talk, although I did see it as pointless, I'll admit. I didn't realize you were up to something. So, Kaylee isn't on your team, huh? I'm going to assume you're not dredging up the old gambit routine. It's possible that Rand is, given your "belief" that he is town. But we'll figure that out after we see how you flip. Unlike you, I don't try to figure out the whole team day one.

 

 

Jack, thanks for trying to get things started, but there are a number of possibilities as to what the setup could be. I think there is probably 3 mafia, since that's pretty standard for a 12 player game, but beyond that, I don't have any opinions.

 

Sorry I started the Ospenya talk. I didn't mean for it to take off like that.

 

 

You told Jack basically "....thanks for stirring the pot, but please don't stir THIS pot."

 

No, I didn't. I said I didn't have much of an opinion. I didn't discourage him, just wasn't interested personally. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

Mainly it is reading between the lines on the BUT. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but this is definitely how I interpreted it on first read whether that was your intent or not.

[bgrishinko]

Unvote

 

Rand's explanation have been sufficent for me for now. But I still got my eye on you.

 

I'm going to review a bit before commenting on who else I'm thinking about.

[Basel Gill]

It is Day 1. The deadline for reaching a majority is Monday, June 11th, at 9 PM EST. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Vote count:

 

Peace (1): AJ

Kaylee (1): Maw

Jack (3): Lily, Poet, NS

BG (2): Kaylee, EP

Lily (2): Jack, Peace

Maw (1): Razen

 

Not voting: BG

 

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