[Basic] Shifters vs Hunters - Game Over! Congrats Mafia!

[Arez Al'Loke]

Nolder, this concerns you aswell..

 

 

How convenient that you claim to protect Nolder. You were all buddy-buddy with him up to about yesterday, when you had your big falling out of the marriage bed. Then you protect him? Sure, opinions can change, but you're being extremely inconsistent here.

 

And as to the theory why the doctor didn't reveal, I'm betting she's on vacation in Seattle.

 

This is a load of Bullshanks Razen. Now you've officially hanged yourself. I NEVER was being all "Buddy buddy" with Nolder as you claim, neither did I protect him now. Could you refer to any recent post where someone has actually ATTACKED Nolder? No? Then how the fudge can I protect him when he isn't even suspected?! I only stated that he is MOST LIKELY TOWN, because I probably blocked a night kill on him.

 

The only thing I did (Early in the game) was voting on the same person as him because he had good reasons. That's not "Buddy buddy" in my book. I suggest we lynch Razen. He wants to lynch the doc, because you obviously can't kill me with your powers. I'm to smart. Now go to bed so we can lynch you peacefully.

[Sakaea]

Razen, we had a Hawk shifter too....

[Arez Al'Loke]

One more interesting thing to note. There are ONLY THREE CLAIMED wolf shifters. They might aswell be scum. All of them. There is no logical way to assume that just because he is a wolf, he's town, or just because he's a rat, that makes him scum.

 

If that was the case, I could easily have claimed to be a Wolf shifter aswell.

[Sakaea]

Okey, I felt I just needed to respond to Iron's accusement. Here it is: ... I'm a 5 year old kid using tactics that are so overused by scum. I am the doc, my animal is.. O_O Otter Shifter apparantly. Now I had 2 prime suspects, Nolder and Ishy. If Nolder isn't one, than I'm going to go for Ishy. I don't know what you want me to read from the last page Iron? There isn't anything specific that points to Ishy being Town. Now, I said that Nolder most likely is not mafia. That

Now why do you say that Nolder is most likely not mafia, Arez? You said you had two prime suspects, Nolder and Ishy. And you automatically rules Nolder out, but never explained why.

The night passed nervously. Sure, the last night, no Shifters had been killed, but it was unlikely the Hunters would go another night without seeking out their prey. Whether they had simply chosen to lie low the night before, or whether their attempts had been thwarted, it just didn't seem like the Shifters would get lucky a second night in a row. And what made it worse, of course, was that they themselves had yet to find and kill a Hunter. All they had done was kill two of their own. So everyone slept restlessly, wondering - who would the Hunters go after tonight? Would another hawk die, brought down by a Hunter arrow? Would they sneak into the wolves' den and kill one of them? Or would they, even be so bold as to venture into the forest, and come face to face with one of the prowling bears? When they woke in the morning, every part of the Garret was searched and inspected. There were no kills reported in the stables, nothing in the rats' cellar. No bodies were found anywhere. Once again - for a second night - the Shifters had escaped, unscathed.

The scene leads me to believe that there are three types of shifters- Wolf, Rat, and Bear. Arez claims Otter? I'm calling BS on the Doctor reveal. Vote: Arez

 

This makes me uncomfortable. Kaylee flipped Hawk shifter...why am I getting the feeling this is a huge gambit, and the wolves are the bad guys here? but if they are, they just handed us their whole team....hmmmm....

[Arez Al'Loke]

and If you think about it. Aren't wolves one of the most feared animals out there? They kill other animals. So wouldn't it be logical to assume that scum are the most feared human's, and they kill aswell?

 

An otter is a peacefull animal.

[Razen]

Kae, this will address the idea about the shifters.

 

Win Conditions

Town (Shifters) - You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated

Mafia (Hunters) - You win when you gain a voting majority over the Town

[Arez Al'Loke]

Ninjaed by Kae. I'm keen to think so. And I'm willing to bet my life on that Razen, atleast, is scum.

[Nolder]

are you a soldier?

 

Yes, I am a soldier.

I am a Bear Shifter as well

[Arez Al'Loke]

HAHA!! Razen, Please.. Don't make it any easier than it is.

 

WOLVES ARE HUNTERS. You just switched the ( X ) thing and put shifters instead. You guys made a huge misstake.

 

And you seem well prepaired aswell? Suddenly you quote that thing from Alanna. Seems like this all has been planed before.

[Razen]

HAHA!! Razen, Please.. Don't make it any easier than it is.

 

WOLVES ARE HUNTERS. You just switched the ( X ) thing and put shifters instead. You guys made a huge misstake.

 

And you seem well prepaired aswell? Suddenly you quote that thing from Alanna. Seems like this all has been planed before.

 

It's in the VERY FIRST POST, listed under Win Condtions, if you want to see if for yourself.

[Nolder]

This makes me uncomfortable. Kaylee flipped Hawk shifter...why am I getting the feeling this is a huge gambit, and the wolves are the bad guys here? but if they are, they just handed us their whole team....hmmmm....

I'm thinking it's legit myself

the mafia has lost too many kills

they're not close enough to winning to make a gambit like this

[Sakaea]

I gathered that, Nolder.

 

You know what? Vote Razen. I don't want to lynch a claimed doc, and Razen seems to be our best second choice. If he flips scum, we know who the rest of them are. If he flips town, we lynch Arez.

[Arez Al'Loke]

How come it never was brought up before Razen? How come it didn't get quoted until now? Why did you let this whole confused thing go on until now?

 

Easy. You tried to trick them before, realised you failed, and now you're trying to save the situation.

[Arez Al'Loke]

How many Bear shifters to we have?

[Nolder]

and If you think about it. Aren't wolves one of the most feared animals out there? They kill other animals. So wouldn't it be logical to assume that scum are the most feared human's, and they kill aswell?

 

An otter is a peacefull animal.

 

The land was rocky, barren, stretching out into mountains that filled the horizon. There was an opening between two mountains, through which something could almost be seen….something vast, dark and glittering. But it was too far away to make out properly.

 

this doesn't really sound like a place you'd find an otter...

[Sakaea]

Kae, this will address the idea about the shifters.

 

Win Conditions

Town (Shifters) - You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated

Mafia (Hunters) - You win when you gain a voting majority over the Town

 

And I don't see how that answers anything, Razen.

[Sakaea]

How many Bear shifters to we have?

 

Me and Nolder, for sure. I'm guessing there's a third, tho.

[Sakaea]

I have to go do some RL stuff now, I'll be back in an hour or 2.

[Arez Al'Loke]

and If you think about it. Aren't wolves one of the most feared animals out there? They kill other animals. So wouldn't it be logical to assume that scum are the most feared human's, and they kill aswell?

 

An otter is a peacefull animal.

 

The land was rocky, barren, stretching out into mountains that filled the horizon. There was an opening between two mountains, through which something could almost be seen….something vast, dark and glittering. But it was too far away to make out properly.

 

this doesn't really sound like a place you'd find an otter...

 

Nolder. Please just give up. I'm inclined to think that maybe I was wrong. Maybe the mafia chose not to kill someone to cause confusion.

Everything I've said is logical, Razen's attack have not been. The mere fact that he is so adamant to lynch a doc is scummy enough.

 

Now to your statement. First of all, Glittering? What do you suppose glitters in the moon light Nolder? Bugs? Grass? Or perhaps water? And need I say, Mountains have rivers. Don't claim anything else.

I'm really really starting to doubt you Nolder.. You seem very set on trying to find some fault in my logic. You haven't been as thourough with anyone else (Recently)

[Ironeyes]

One more interesting thing to note. There are ONLY THREE CLAIMED wolf shifters. They might aswell be scum. All of them. There is no logical way to assume that just because he is a wolf, he's town, or just because he's a rat, that makes him scum.

 

If that was the case, I could easily have claimed to be a Wolf shifter aswell.

No, you couldn't have. The way it went down was that I asked a confirmation question, and Razen answered it. Ishy unvoted BEFORE I confirmed that that was the right answer, confirming him as a wolf as well. Therefore, if one of us is town, we all are. I repeat, lynch me if you must.

HAHA!! Razen, Please.. Don't make it any easier than it is.

 

WOLVES ARE HUNTERS. You just switched the ( X ) thing and put shifters instead. You guys made a huge misstake.

 

And you seem well prepaired aswell? Suddenly you quote that thing from Alanna. Seems like this all has been planed before.

You're digging deeper. You completely make up all this junk to put blame on Razen, act like Nolder is vetted before we have anybody to vouch for him, and show no understanding of how the game works. I'm calling fake on the doc claim. Vote Arez. And FOS on Sakaea for defending him.

[Razen]

Kae, this will address the idea about the shifters.

 

Win Conditions

Town (Shifters) - You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated

Mafia (Hunters) - You win when you gain a voting majority over the Town

 

And I don't see how that answers anything, Razen.

 

To answer that point, we are shifters. Which puts us in the town winning condition.

 

If we look and see how the roles break down, this is what I've got so far:

 

There's 9 people alive currently. Of those nine, three are mafia I'm guessing. Here's the way it separates.

 

Wolf Shifters

Razen

Ishy

Ironeyes

 

Bear Shifters

Sakaea

Nolder

 

Unknown

Key

Darthe

Lenlo

Arez

 

Rat Shifters

EP

Hoofy

 

Hawk Shifters

Kaylee

 

Three of four from that Unknown column have to be scum.

 

My death means nothing. It will confirm that I am telling the truth, and confirm that the unknown column is where we should be focusing our efforts. I have a hunch that Key is the doc, not Arez.

 

Why did Arez reveal when he did? He was under NO pressure to reveal at all. There were no votes on him, there was only his erratic behavior the day before. And it's a convenient story that he tells that he protected Nolder after having a huge argument with him the day before. I'm betting the REAL doctor protected Nolder and that Arez tried submitting the NK on him. And is now trying to spin it that HE protected Nolder and that the real scum tried NK'ing him. And besides, why would the scum try NK'ing Arez several nights in a row, after he claims to have been self-protecting? They aren't going to come out and admit that, of course, but that'd be pretty stupid to keep trying, if you ask me.

[Arez Al'Loke]

Iron, I'm not even going to quote you. Everything you said. Every single thing Iron. Is Bullshanks. "Lynch me if you want Buhuhuhu" Scum statement. A town would never say that. And funny that you're repeating it so many times. As if to convince yourself that you must pretend to be town.

 

You might aswell be 3 mafia playing together. There is no reason you three are vetted townies just because you claimed the same animals.

 

You take ONE QUOTE from what I say and claim it to be Junk. And apparantly I show no understanding of the game aswell? Your not making any sence. You're like a fitfh grader who can't argument/discuss and just replies with a "NO!" You say that my case against Razen is junk, but you don't say why. You sir, don't have an understanding of the game.

[Arez Al'Loke]

WIFOM RAZEN. It doesn't matter when I revealed. Anything can be viewed as scum. Example.

 

OOhhh HE WAS UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE AND CLAIMED DOC TO LOSE HEAT!! OOOO SCUMM!!

 

or. As you're doing

 

He was under nooo PRessure!! WHY DID HE CLAIM DOC, OOOO SCUMM.

 

 

BULLSHANKS

[Arez Al'Loke]

"And besides, why would the scum try NK'ing Arez several nights in a row, after he claims to have been self-protecting? They aren't going to come out and admit that, of course, but that'd be pretty stupid to keep trying, if you ask me. "

 

Why not? As I said, I protected Nolder Last night. They could have killed me, but chose to try and kill him instead. So they COULD have gotten me. And I find it very conviniant that you claim the person on LOA is our "reeal" doc.

 

And by the way. I claimed to be an OTTER SHIFTER. Why did you write down the other people's animals but not mine? Another FOS on you Razen.

[Ironeyes]

Iron, I'm not even going to quote you. Everything you said. Every single thing Iron. Is Bullshanks. "Lynch me if you want Buhuhuhu" Scum statement. A town would never say that. And funny that you're repeating it so many times. As if to convince yourself that you must pretend to be town.

I am willing to die because it will confirm two other people as town. Scum don't want to die because it will cast bad light on their team mates and put them at a numerical disadvantage. And I only said it twice.

You might aswell be 3 mafia playing together. There is no reason you three are vetted townies just because you claimed the same animals.

I already adressed this.

You take ONE QUOTE from what I say and claim it to be Junk. I just don't like walls of text.

Everything you say is junk.

And apparantly I show no understanding of the game aswell?

You didn't know that SHIFTERS are TOWN. That's the basic premise of the game!

IYou're like a fitfh grader who can't argument/discuss and just replies with a "NO!" You say that my case against Razen is junk, but you don't say why. You sir, don't have an understanding of the game.

And this is just a personal attack, unprofessional and stupid. Face it, you're flailing.