[Light Vs Shadow] - HEROES AND VILLIANS MAFIA

[Locke]

Yes, I am a mafia killer. However, the question arises: there are two scums; so what happened to the other kill. Eh BG?

 

When my alignment/role is revealed, there will be two mafia Killers, two mafia Switchers, and two mafia Goons. Coincidence? I think it highly likely that the two mafia teams are organized the same and since I'm part of one of them, I know that when the killer dies, the killing role is passed onto the Roleblocker. However, the roleblocker can only kill or roleblock, not both. So BG decides to roleblock me, keeping his team safe, and allowing him to lead a lynch on me the next day. (I expect he thinks my team to be a greater threat than the Town)

 

So yeah, Town, you have yourself two free scum to lynch. Red is probably BG's teammate, although I'm not as certain about that.

 

 

[bgrishinko]

Bullcrap dude. Way to go out guns blazing though.

[hotpocket2006]

Finally back. 10 days in Iraq suck! lol

 

I just did a quick read through and can confirm that BG blocked red two nights ago. Or at least I tracked red and the results were that there was no action. I didn't get the chance to turn in an action last night so didn't get any results.

 

So two scum teams. Thanks for helping us out there Locke ^^

[hotpocket2006]

1. Des - Sam - Watcher

4. Tina - Superman - Town RB

6. Leelou - Bus Driver

9. Rey

10. Tiinks

11. Amadine

12. Wombat - Spiderman - Inventor Doc

13. Aiel Heart

14. Locke

16. Pants

17. Song - Tracker

19. Red

20. BG - Rogue - Town RB

 

Des's Findings

N1: blocked

N2: Wombat -> Blackhoof, Tina, Turin, Sakaea, BG, Leelou.

N3:

 

 

Song's Findings

N1:

N2:

N3: BG -> targeted no one

 

 

Leelou's Targets:

N1:

N2: Wombat/Leyrann

N3:

 

 

 

 

song can you list your results from N1 and N2 please. also, i'll answer you tomorrow about the Kae thing. right now i'm crunched for time, but on my initial read to catch up fromt eh weekand i got the impression that at first you were slightly defending her, and then you distanced yoruself from her later on.

 

 

 

BG, so you think that Leelou is scum because BD's are scum; yet your voting Tina ....

 

 

Leelou because imo she's the better option. i dislike the intention behind the Wombat/Ley switch. an because of the problems the BD gives, especially to finder type roles, Leelou can you list your targets for the past 3 nights as well.

 

*shakes head* If you would actually read the game, instead of skim, you would know I targeted Kae nights 1 and two. That's the whole reason she got caught in her lie and had to make up two really bad role reveals. I caught her targeting wombat night 1, which was suspicious with his role reveal and no deaths N1, so I targeted her N2 and got her on Ley.

 

Also the vote on Leelou makes no sense. She would not switch her mafia killer to be on Ley who was also mafia. There's no way she's scum.

 

Oh REALLY?

 

*shrugs* How could I call there being two mafia teams.

[hotpocket2006]

Actually, come to think of it, my results were that red had no action, whereas before I targetted BG and got targeted no one when he was blocked by Tina. So I guess there's a difference there.

[WWWwombat]

Vote: Locke

 

Thanks for the confession. Makes things easier.

[hotpocket2006]

VOTE LOCKE I suppose I forgot to vote, I was too worried about taking a shower. I kind of smelt...

[Pantsonfire]

Quickest day ever......

[Pantsonfire]

Unvote

The smart thing to do here would be to keep him alive yet constantly blocked.

[Pantsonfire]

The that stops one of the mafia teams from killing entirely. No chance for the role to swap

[Pantsonfire]

Team. Singular. Stops one team from killing

[bgrishinko]

Smart thinking Pants, but Hammer is hammer.

[Pantsonfire]

..... Yeah, oh well. Thinking for next time perhaps.

[Aiel Heart]

A shimmering cloud of sparkles appears

Yes, I am a mafia killer.

A voice resonates out of the cloud

So was it you?

 

 

 

(......this is the BT after all 0;P )

[Red2111]

Good enough for me as well.

 

Vote Locke.

 

I didn't get any new info from last night.

 

you didn't get anything as in you were blocked? or just no results on who you watched? because if you were blocked, i'd like to know why BG blocked you.

 

 

Yes, I am a mafia killer. However, the question arises: there are two scums; so what happened to the other kill. Eh BG?

 

When my alignment/role is revealed, there will be two mafia Killers, two mafia Switchers, and two mafia Goons. Coincidence? I think it highly likely that the two mafia teams are organized the same and since I'm part of one of them, I know that when the killer dies, the killing role is passed onto the Roleblocker. However, the roleblocker can only kill or roleblock, not both. So BG decides to roleblock me, keeping his team safe, and allowing him to lead a lynch on me the next day. (I expect he thinks my team to be a greater threat than the Town)

 

So yeah, Town, you have yourself two free scum to lynch. Red is probably BG's teammate, although I'm not as certain about that.

 

can you tell us out of the list of killed scum who else is on your team Locke.

 

 

 

 

Unvote

The smart thing to do here would be to keep him alive yet constantly blocked.

 

 

this pings hard core. we only win when all the scum are gone, keeping one alive will just result in us lyncing eachother in a wild goose chase when Locke could be the last surviving scum. if this isn't game over with Lockes lynch, your lynch is looking very good.

[Red2111]

double post to get the relevent info updated

 

i'm not goign to go digging for the needed info, if ya'll can fill in the blanks that would be much appreciated.

 

 

okay, so if Locke can be trusted at all, he claims that the Kill is transfered to the RBer, yet the only RBer we've lynched has flipped town. if Locke can be beleived then 2 RBing scum are still out there. because of this, i've added scum to the list as well; i have two teams started with the two killers heading them, but am unsure how we shoudl go about seperated them right now. someone mentioned "magic useres" possibly being on 1 team, an normal villians on another. i'd like to see who Lockes character is before assuming this becuase neither of the BD's were magical baddies.

 

Player List

1. Des - Sam - Watcher

9. Rey

10. Tiinks

12. Wombat - Spiderman - Inventor Doc

16. Pants

17. Song - Tracker

19. Red

20. BG - Rogue - RB

 

Des's Findings

N1: blocked

N2: Wombat -> Blackhoof, Tina, Turin, Sakaea, BG, Leelou.

N3: Wombat -> no one

N4:

N5:

 

 

Song's Findings

N1: Kae -> Wombat

N2: Kae ->Ley

N3: BG -> targeted no one

N4: Red -> no night action

N5: n/a

 

 

Leelou's Targets:

N1: Red/Nol Ley1.0

N2: Wombat/Leyrann

N3: Meesh/Wombat

 

 

BG's Targets

N1: Des

N2: Wombat

N3: Leelou

N4: Red

N5: Locke

 

 

Tina's Targets

N1: n/a

N2: Wombat

N3: BG

 

 

Wombats Protection

N1: Wombat

N2: Amadine

N3: Wombat

N4:

N5:

 

 

Scum Team 1

Kae - Sauron- Killer

 

 

Scum Team 2

Locke - Killer

 

 

un-teamed scum

Leelou - Psycho - Switcher

Ama - Joker - Switcher

Meesh - Voldy - Goon

Nol/Ley - Cruella - Goon

Locke - Killer

[Red2111]

actually, going on Des's info from N2 i think it's safe to assume that Leelou wasnt on a team with Kae. they wouldn't switch the same person they would target to kill.

 

 

Scum Team 1

Kae - Sauron- Killer

Ama - Joker - Switcher

 

 

Scum Team 2

Locke - Killer

Leelou - Psycho - Switcher

 

 

un-teamed scum

Meesh - Voldy - Goon

Nol/Ley - Cruella - Goon

[Red2111]

sorry for the triple post, i wanted to get my thoughts on paper.

 

 

furthering on what Locke said about the killer role being transferred to the RBer, this further supports both of my original thoughts

 

Leelou claimed to have switched Wombat and Ley N2. this means she was attempting to frame Wombys alignment. but unknown to them, Kae had targetted Womby for a kill. BG, a RBer, is the last on the target list.

 

imo, i think it's likely that Kae's team decided to RB the person they wanted to kill seeing as Womby had claimed a protection type role. this also means that Ley is most likely on Locke's team, which puts Meesh on Kae's team.

 

also, we know the AH was a vig and had used her kills at some point (one of which was blocked). so not all the deaths we had were mafia kills. so we'd get further info by re-examining the NK info. mainly how many kills and if AH claimed them.

[Tiinker]

Vote Locke

 

for good measure..

[Locke]

can you tell us out of the list of killed scum who else is on your team Locke.

 

Lol, not information I'm going to freely give. Telling you that does not benefit my team in any way as far as I can see.

[Pantsonfire]

Unvote

The smart thing to do here would be to keep him alive yet constantly blocked.

 

 

this pings hard core. we only win when all the scum are gone, keeping one alive will just result in us lyncing eachother in a wild goose chase when Locke could be the last surviving scum. if this isn't game over with Lockes lynch, your lynch is looking very good.

 

 

I would prefer to make a conservative estimate On the scum left. If we can stop one team from killing that severely inhibits their team. And probably would have lined Locke up for a night kill from the other team anyway. As it is we learnt nothing of future value from today because we all jumped in so quickly.....

 

What about you red? Are YOU town?

[Pantsonfire]

It it a forum or mafia faux pas to double post? I should clarify this so that I'll think about it in future as I'm doing it.....

 

 

( avoid doing it).

 

 

As I'm doing right right now lol

[WWWwombat]

Double posting is fine, especially since editing isn't allowed.

[Red2111]

yes my alignment is town Pants. and i feel like you breadcrumbing a reveal for later on. i especailly don't like how your latching onto keeping a known scumster alive.

 

 

btw Locke it was more a tongue in cheek question. yer scum, i take all your "info" with a really big grain of salt. besides, i think i figured it out rather nicely

 

 

Player List

1. Des - Sam - Watcher

9. Rey

10. Tiinks

12. Wombat - Spiderman - Inventor Doc

16. Pants

17. Song - Tracker

19. Red

20. BG - Rogue - RB

 

 

Des's Findings

N1: blocked

N2: Wombat -> Blackhoof, Tina, Turin, Sakaea, BG, Leelou.

N3: Wombat -> no one

N4:

N5:

 

 

Song's Findings

N1: Kae -> Wombat

N2: Kae ->Ley

N3: BG -> targeted no one

N4: Red -> no night action

N5: n/a

 

 

Leelou's Targets:

N1: Red/Nol Ley1.0

N2: Wombat/Leyrann

N3: Meesh/Wombat

 

 

BG's Targets

N1: Des

N2: Wombat

N3: Leelou

N4: Red

N5: Locke

 

 

Tina's Targets

N1: n/a

N2: Wombat

N3: BG

 

 

Wombats Protection

N1: Wombat

N2: Amadine

N3: Wombat

N4:

N5:

 

 

Scum Team 1

Kae - Sauron- Killer

Ama - Joker - Switcher

Meesh - Voldy - Goon

 

Scum Team 2

Locke - Killer

Leelou - Psycho - Switcher

Ley - Cruella - Goon

[Pantsonfire]

Lol Locke I think Heart asked earlier if it was you who killed her.