[Advanced/Experimental] Game of Thrones Mafia

Hybrid · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:48 PM, Barmacral said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:41 PM, Hybrid said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:36 PM, Sharrow said:

Would be nice to know the other 3 Starks at this point, and any bannerman. A mass reveal might be beneficial tomorrow.

Let's see what happens tonight first. I'm worried that the Lannisters might have had 5 members.

The Lannister Bannermen are unaccounted for, if we take Red at her word. Which means there's possibly two of them floating about.

I'm talking about the House members.

Sharrow · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:47 PM, Verbal32 said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:42 PM, Sharrow said:

I personally would have went with an all female team if I were him. Lily, Nae, Adella, Verbal, etc.

You're a funny guy. You've posted probably 10 times today - you should lay down.

Better yet, I've got a few other suggestions:

EAD

#14

DIAF

It would have been less had I known at the time that I couldn't steal or be bribed anymore. You got lucky 80.

Smash · August 23, 2011

On 8/19/2011 at 5:52 PM, Smash said:

On 8/19/2011 at 5:47 PM, Hybrid said:

Vote Mynd

I'm willing to vote slats, but someone needs to expand the reasoning beyond "slats is cult."

Hybrid i can give my personal reasons if it helps any.

Both times I voted Mynd Slats seemed to step in within a few minutes and vote for someone else saying he didnt see a reason for voting Mynd when I pushed him a bit. If he did it once meh ok ...But he did it twice and that got my attention so I figured why not push the Slats idea. Its not a strong case by any means but it did get his attention.

On 8/19/2011 at 5:54 PM, Myndrunner said:

Notice how quickly Smash has unvoted me? Pretty erratic play this whole game by the man, who nearly got lynched last time, and so easily removes his vote when I question him. Only later as an afterthought does he call OMGUS back on me. His mind is elsewhere. He has an agenda. If there was a Cult Leader in this game, the behavior of Smash has been the most telling.

On 8/19/2011 at 5:57 PM, Smash said:

On 8/19/2011 at 5:54 PM, Myndrunner said:

Notice how quickly Smash has unvoted me? Pretty erratic play this whole game by the man, who nearly got lynched last time, and so easily removes his vote when I question him. Only later as an afterthought does he call OMGUS back on me. His mind is elsewhere. He has an agenda. If there was a Cult Leader in this game, the behavior of Smash has been the most telling.

Mynd the only person here not really paying close attention to this game is you. My play is far from erratic since both you and Slats were on my radar. You really should pay better attention before trying to make a case with absolutely nothing to back it up. Im already confirmed Starks its been pointed out that it makes entirely no sense to lynch me unless your remaining Lannister or cult so what excatly are you trying to do here ? Please explain

what i was saying earlier about slats / mynd I think makes a strong case Mynd is one of the 2 or possibly 3 remaining Cult. Only way theres 3 is if the cult started with 2 and I doubt thats the case

the dude · August 23, 2011

sharrow, i think we're probably looking at a bannermen or 2 left for the lannisters. 6 to start, 4 family members dead, a bannerman, and one still out there somewhere. plus anyone who declared before the lannisters nosedived into oblivion. and they may still just want to slay some starks in the night time since bannermen do get abilities too.

the mass stark reveal's a pretty 2 edged sword though. like it'll clear the air for good guys, sure. but we've been talking 3 cultists to start, right? so with 2 originals left, and any converts picked up along the way, they've still got a functioning team. don't know how the conversion mechanics work in this game but i doubt they're converting 3 people a night; they're probably reaching a consensus and submitting the choice. it's not likely they're down and out by losing a single member, and outing all the starks is just making it easy for them unless there's some blocking mechanism i don't know about.

so revealing would make our lives easier during the day but probably way harder in night time.

Barmacral · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:49 PM, Hybrid said:

I'm talking about the House members.

I know. I suspect there is only 4 house members though, as there are only 4 major Lannister's in the series and all of them are dead, which means it fits really well into the theme Kivs picked. Plus, I do believe that Red was spouting the truth in her desperate attempt to stay alive. In which case there's probably two lannister bannermen floating about, which is probably equally as threatening as one more house member.

Verbal32 · August 23, 2011

Wait, 80 is still alive?

WWWwombat · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:52 PM, Barmacral said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:49 PM, Hybrid said:

I'm talking about the House members.

I know. I suspect there is only 4 house members though, as there are only 4 major Lannister's in the series and all of them are dead, which means it fits really well into the theme Kivs picked. Plus, I do believe that Red was spouting the truth in her desperate attempt to stay alive. In which case there's probably two lannister bannermen floating about, which is probably equally as threatening as one more house member.

What about Ser Kevan as a 5th?

Smash · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:50 PM, the dude said:

sharrow, i think we're probably looking at a bannermen or 2 left for the lannisters. 6 to start, 4 family members dead, a bannerman, and one still out there somewhere. plus anyone who declared before the lannisters nosedived into oblivion. and they may still just want to slay some starks in the night time since bannermen do get abilities too.

the mass stark reveal's a pretty 2 edged sword though. like it'll clear the air for good guys, sure. but we've been talking 3 cultists to start, right? so with 2 originals left, and any converts picked up along the way, they've still got a functioning team. don't know how the conversion mechanics work in this game but i doubt they're converting 3 people a night; they're probably reaching a consensus and submitting the choice. it's not likely they're down and out by losing a single member, and outing all the starks is just making it easy for them unless there's some blocking mechanism i don't know about.

so revealing would make our lives easier during the day but probably way harder in night time.

One of the Lann. Bannermen probably has a role just like me "a tracker" If the other Stark bannerman reveals and has a role it will be nice info for us

Barmacral · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:50 PM, the dude said:

sharrow, i think we're probably looking at a bannermen or 2 left for the lannisters. 6 to start, 4 family members dead, a bannerman, and one still out there somewhere. plus anyone who declared before the lannisters nosedived into oblivion. and they may still just want to slay some starks in the night time since bannermen do get abilities too.

the mass stark reveal's a pretty 2 edged sword though. like it'll clear the air for good guys, sure. but we've been talking 3 cultists to start, right? so with 2 originals left, and any converts picked up along the way, they've still got a functioning team. don't know how the conversion mechanics work in this game but i doubt they're converting 3 people a night; they're probably reaching a consensus and submitting the choice. it's not likely they're down and out by losing a single member, and outing all the starks is just making it easy for them unless there's some blocking mechanism i don't know about.

so revealing would make our lives easier during the day but probably way harder in night time.

Have we been? I don't recall this. Sounds like a major slip to me.

John McClane · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 8:31 PM, Vicious89x said:

Well no one is going to vote off DPR. I'm not going to waste my vote there.

Unvote

Vote Slats

On 8/23/2011 at 9:00 PM, Smash said:

unvote vote Slats

On 8/23/2011 at 9:04 PM, the dude said:

and ok, let's get 'er done.

unvote, vote slats

On 8/23/2011 at 9:05 PM, CTM said:

i'm cool with slats.. and nobody seems willing to vote anyone else

hope someone shoots mynd tonight so we don't have the same fixation tomorrow

unvote

vote Slats

On 8/23/2011 at 9:06 PM, Verbal32 said:

Unvote

Vote: slats

Hmmm... almost all my favorite suspects, all voting in order... gotta be at least one bus vote in there no? So now that we know that Slats was the CL, I'm going to metagame a bit... would he play the role exactly like he did last game while I was modding and watching him play the role to perfection? He went right after the JN heavy hitters:

1. Sharrow

2. Dan (not playing)

3. Vic

4. EY (not playing)

5. Smash

6. Nae

Take away Dan and EY, look at our player roster and the names that pop to me are DPR, CTM, Bleedin, Verbal, Lily and Wombat, maybe Nae... in addition to Sharrow, Vic and Smash.

Thing is, a quick re-read and you can see Slats nudging my pursuit of CTM, so I feel a bit better about him. You can see Slats nudging my catch on DPR's slip, so I feel better about DPR too. I also don't think Vic and BG makes their cases/votes on Slats if they were converted - there was no need at the time they posted them.

Sharrow concerns me most right now.

Part of me wonders if Slats (who <3 Lily, and made the case on Lily early that really wasn't going to stick) converted Lily early and she bowed out because she HATES being converted. Sakea keeps saying Slats is Stark in her lists of player reads, though there has been nothing to substantiate it.

Also, you can pretty much throw away the theories about Slats converting me. Would never happen - I drive him more nuts than I do CTM. Should have known something was up when Slats opted not to berate me in front of all of you, and instead played "get behind the Ape".

Smash · August 23, 2011

I dont remember ever talking about 3 cultists ....It was discussed 1 maybe 2 and I think 2 is a long shot.

Barmacral · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:54 PM, WWWwombat said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:52 PM, Barmacral said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:49 PM, Hybrid said:

I'm talking about the House members.

I know. I suspect there is only 4 house members though, as there are only 4 major Lannister's in the series and all of them are dead, which means it fits really well into the theme Kivs picked. Plus, I do believe that Red was spouting the truth in her desperate attempt to stay alive. In which case there's probably two lannister bannermen floating about, which is probably equally as threatening as one more house member.

What about Ser Kevan as a 5th?

I quite forgot he existed. Its possible.

Verbal32 · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:54 PM, Barmacral said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:50 PM, the dude said:

sharrow, i think we're probably looking at a bannermen or 2 left for the lannisters. 6 to start, 4 family members dead, a bannerman, and one still out there somewhere. plus anyone who declared before the lannisters nosedived into oblivion. and they may still just want to slay some starks in the night time since bannermen do get abilities too.

the mass stark reveal's a pretty 2 edged sword though. like it'll clear the air for good guys, sure. but we've been talking 3 cultists to start, right? so with 2 originals left, and any converts picked up along the way, they've still got a functioning team. don't know how the conversion mechanics work in this game but i doubt they're converting 3 people a night; they're probably reaching a consensus and submitting the choice. it's not likely they're down and out by losing a single member, and outing all the starks is just making it easy for them unless there's some blocking mechanism i don't know about.

so revealing would make our lives easier during the day but probably way harder in night time.

Have we been? I don't recall this. Sounds like a major slip to me.

Nice catch.

Ape, I'm pretty sure DPR is a Stark house member - he appears to have bought votes off of him. I received no gold yesterday - my vote was simply to end the phase.

Hybrid · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:56 PM, John McClane said:

Also, you can pretty much throw away the theories about Slats converting me. Would never happen - I drive him more nuts than I do CTM. Should have known something was up when Slats opted not to berate me in front of all of you, and instead played "get behind the Ape".

Boy, am I glad we could clear that one up.

Verbal32 · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 10:00 PM, Hybrid said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:56 PM, John McClane said:

Also, you can pretty much throw away the theories about Slats converting me. Would never happen - I drive him more nuts than I do CTM. Should have known something was up when Slats opted not to berate me in front of all of you, and instead played "get behind the Ape".

Boy, am I glad we could clear that one up.

Yep. Metagaming at its finest.

WWWwombat · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 10:00 PM, Hybrid said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:56 PM, John McClane said:

Also, you can pretty much throw away the theories about Slats converting me. Would never happen - I drive him more nuts than I do CTM. Should have known something was up when Slats opted not to berate me in front of all of you, and instead played "get behind the Ape".

Boy, am I glad we could clear that one up.

lololololololol

John McClane · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:27 PM, Verbal32 said:

Now it's time to see who he'd be most likely to recruit.

My take? Definitely a DMer, as once dead, people might assume he'd only go for JN buddies.

See my post above - Slats went for the obvious people in Battlestar, and nobody thought of it. I'm guessing Slats would have gone with one of the DM/JNers like you, Wombat or Lily.... his squeeze. This way he gains immediate insight into the other players in the game from you guys, but he still gets good players that he can trust to play the conversion well.

Having also played a conversion game on DM recently, I know they did the same thing - they converted the big game first. Here, the big game is you, Wombat, DPR and Lily.

slats · August 23, 2011

I have Dragon Blood, bitches.

I told Kiv I'm sorry. I had a major role here and just wasn't able to maintain it with everything I have going on at home. I also feel bad for my team. Sucks.

Special Rule #14 goes out to the Ape. If I hadn't been out all day, I would've defended, and I'd still be alive. I don't hide from this game. Nothing makes me happier that squirming free when caught.

In a side note, I was thrilled that JiFBoo was right about me, and that it got him lynched. :laugh: He and Crush once again forming the greatest scum team ever brought a smile to my face.

FU again, monkey-shines.

Smash · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:59 PM, Verbal32 said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:54 PM, Barmacral said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:50 PM, the dude said:

sharrow, i think we're probably looking at a bannermen or 2 left for the lannisters. 6 to start, 4 family members dead, a bannerman, and one still out there somewhere. plus anyone who declared before the lannisters nosedived into oblivion. and they may still just want to slay some starks in the night time since bannermen do get abilities too.

the mass stark reveal's a pretty 2 edged sword though. like it'll clear the air for good guys, sure. but we've been talking 3 cultists to start, right? so with 2 originals left, and any converts picked up along the way, they've still got a functioning team. don't know how the conversion mechanics work in this game but i doubt they're converting 3 people a night; they're probably reaching a consensus and submitting the choice. it's not likely they're down and out by losing a single member, and outing all the starks is just making it easy for them unless there's some blocking mechanism i don't know about.

so revealing would make our lives easier during the day but probably way harder in night time.

Have we been? I don't recall this. Sounds like a major slip to me.

Nice catch.

Ape, I'm pretty sure DPR is a Stark house member - he appears to have bought votes off of him. I received no gold yesterday - my vote was simply to end the phase.

Verb DPR voted me even after I revealed early on and kept his vote on me how do you call that stark house ?

John McClane · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:29 PM, Kivam said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:22 PM, Verbal32 said:

To be fair, he did PM Kivam about it.

Guys - this one was legit. He gave me info on what it was, and said he thought it would clear up in a day or two but he might need to be replaced. Just putting that out there, b/c he doesn't deserve to get tagged with "lied about RL to try to avoid a lynch"

I'm not hating on him - I'm just shocked. I stated it a couple times because I repeatedly vouched for him NOT using RL in this game, and I don't want to be called out on trusting him. It sorta screws me.

Anyway - @Slatsy, hope everything is cool man.

John McClane · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:30 PM, Verbal32 said:

Wanna share with the class? No more recruits, so no reason to keep quiet.

Ping, ping, ping... there are deputy roles for the paymasters, tons of killing roles, I'm not about to assume there isn't a deputy cult converter.

Don't like this post at all.

Verbal32 · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 10:01 PM, John McClane said:

On 8/23/2011 at 9:27 PM, Verbal32 said:

Now it's time to see who he'd be most likely to recruit.

My take? Definitely a DMer, as once dead, people might assume he'd only go for JN buddies.

See my post above - Slats went for the obvious people in Battlestar, and nobody thought of it. I'm guessing Slats would have gone with one of the DM/JNers like you, Wombat or Lily.... his squeeze. This way he gains immediate insight into the other players in the game from you guys, but he still gets good players that he can trust to play the conversion well.

Having also played a conversion game on DM recently, I know they did the same thing - they converted the big game first. Here, the big game is you, Wombat, DPR and Lily.

Actually, this is a very logical assumption. Not a bad place to start the search. I'm happy to be cased anytime. Going home now, but I'll check in later.

Sharrow · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 9:56 PM, John McClane said:

On 8/23/2011 at 8:31 PM, Vicious89x said:

Well no one is going to vote off DPR. I'm not going to waste my vote there.

Unvote

Vote Slats

On 8/23/2011 at 9:00 PM, Smash said:

unvote vote Slats

On 8/23/2011 at 9:04 PM, the dude said:

and ok, let's get 'er done.

unvote, vote slats

On 8/23/2011 at 9:05 PM, CTM said:

i'm cool with slats.. and nobody seems willing to vote anyone else

hope someone shoots mynd tonight so we don't have the same fixation tomorrow

unvote

vote Slats

On 8/23/2011 at 9:06 PM, Verbal32 said:

Unvote

Vote: slats

Hmmm... almost all my favorite suspects, all voting in order... gotta be at least one bus vote in there no? So now that we know that Slats was the CL, I'm going to metagame a bit... would he play the role exactly like he did last game while I was modding and watching him play the role to perfection? He went right after the JN heavy hitters:

1. Sharrow

2. Dan (not playing)

3. Vic

4. EY (not playing)

5. Smash

6. Nae

Take away Dan and EY, look at our player roster and the names that pop to me are DPR, CTM, Bleedin, Verbal, Lily and Wombat, maybe Nae... in addition to Sharrow, Vic and Smash.

Thing is, a quick re-read and you can see Slats nudging my pursuit of CTM, so I feel a bit better about him. You can see Slats nudging my catch on DPR's slip, so I feel better about DPR too. I also don't think Vic and BG makes their cases/votes on Slats if they were converted - there was no need at the time they posted them.

Sharrow concerns me most right now.

Part of me wonders if Slats (who <3 Lily, and made the case on Lily early that really wasn't going to stick) converted Lily early and she bowed out because she HATES being converted. Sakea keeps saying Slats is Stark in her lists of player reads, though there has been nothing to substantiate it.

Also, you can pretty much throw away the theories about Slats converting me. Would never happen - I drive him more nuts than I do CTM. Should have known something was up when Slats opted not to berate me in front of all of you, and instead played "get behind the Ape".

My play over the last 2 days should make it pretty clear that I'm not cult.

Sharrow · August 23, 2011

That said, if Sakaea isn't a Stark, she would be my first choice for converted as Lily. If I remember right, Slats pushed a case pretty strongly on her either on day 1 or day 2. I wouldn't doubt he would convert her the following night if it was before she was replaced. If it was afterwards, then I think it less likely.

DPR · August 23, 2011

On 8/23/2011 at 10:02 PM, slats said:

I have Dragon Blood, bitches.

I told Kiv I'm sorry. I had a major role here and just wasn't able to maintain it with everything I have going on at home. I also feel bad for my team. Sucks.

Special Rule #14 goes out to the Ape. If I hadn't been out all day, I would've defended, and I'd still be alive. I don't hide from this game. Nothing makes me happier that squirming free when caught.

In a side note, I was thrilled that JiFBoo was right about me, and that it got him lynched. He and Crush once again forming the greatest scum team ever brought a smile to my face.

FU again, monkey-shines.

Ah hell, don't worry about it.

And I tell you what, let's make it up to your team by taking them out for a beer. You just let us know who they are, and we'll do the rest!

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