[Advanced/Experimental] Game of Thrones Mafia

[Bleedin Green]

  On 8/21/2011 at 5:18 AM, John McClane said:

Vote Mynd

Pssst... it's night.

[Sharrow]

Reread the 1st day. Looks like the Ape King Kong act and tunnel vision worked again. Didn't really learn much except for everyone's relation to Jack & the Ape now knowing their original alignments, which is pretty much worthless. Not many other significant independent player/player interactions thanks to him.

 

All I got was a few probably meaningless potential distancing instances, and Alys possibly overselling an anti-cult stance in a couple posts. 257 & 425

 

That might be something to look into tomorrow. I'll hope for some better luck and reread the first night to present again tomorrow.

 

Also don't think Wombat is a Lannister family member based on an interaction he had with Lanth.

[Sharrow]

  On 8/15/2011 at 1:36 AM, JF80 said:

VOTE JIF

 

 

  On 8/15/2011 at 4:58 PM, BooBoo said:

Hello - I'm new here and new to playing mafia. I'm a friend of Kivam's and he said that I need to join this crazy game that he set up because I'm super analytical, I love riddles and things like that and I really like this show. Kivam thinks I'll be good and that my personality is a good fit with some of the veterans. So I hope I meet some friends along the way.

 

I was told in the simplest form, to look for suspicioius activity and then vote for that person. Seems like there isnt really anything happening here too note worthy, but the JF80 guy voted for someone that I didnt see on the list of players. Is that normal? Does that deserve a vote?

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:59 AM, BooBoo said:

I'm flattered that you think I'm playing so well that you dont think I'm a newbie. This whole time I've hoping nobody notices how lost I am.

 

  On 8/16/2011 at 2:55 PM, BooBoo said:

Unvote Sharrow - she's a boy

Vote John McClane - just following the lead here. But also, does he post a lot to anyone else? Seems like that might get annoying further down the line as its so much too read.

 

 

lol, btw.

[WWWwombat]

Good to see you in post-D3 mode.

[Sharrow]

  On 8/21/2011 at 5:18 AM, John McClane said:

My version:

Lan - Stark - Cult - Survivor (Confirmed only)

 

1) Lily/Sakaea - Lily showed one of her scum tells, but no read on Sakea, leaning survivor

2) Jack - Lysa Arryn, Survivor turned Lannister bannerman

3) Vic - unknown, no notable survivor tells, not engaged in game

4) Verbal - unknown, saw some survivor tells, but I'm still puzzled by him voting Jack D1, but then tearing down my D1 case on Jack

5) Wombat - Probably Family Aligned

6) Optimus Primate - Survivor

7) CTM - Probably Survivor

8) Crusher - no survivor tells, clearly faked being paid off for his vote

9) 80 - hiding from the game, very unlike JF80

10) Slats - avoiding real confrontation, no survivor tells, probably family aligned

11) Nae - no read

12) Smash - uncountered Jory Cassel/Stark Bannerman claim

13) Pac - Petyr Baelish, Survivor

14) Red - Jaime Lannister, Lannister Swordmaster

15) Far Dareis Mai - heavy read for survivor

16) Bleedin - Probably Family Aligned, Either Stark or the Lannisters were distancing.

17) BooBoo/JiF - Cersei Lannister

18) Adella - slight lean towards survivor, has reacted well to non-survivor cases, but not giving many actual tells that she is one

19) Myndrunner - not a survivor or Stark, needs to be lynched next

20) Hybrid - heavy lean towards survivor

21) Lanth/12th Regiment - Tyrion Lannister, Lannister Backup Paymaster

22) Barmacral - no read

23) DPR - definitely family aligned

24) the dude - no read, keeps showing up right after lynches

25) alys kinch - no read, similar to dude where she shows up in spurts - at what seems like safe times

26) Sharrow - leaning

 

 

 

So, all that said - Mynd needs to be lynched on the same premise as JIFBoo. He went Stark hunting last day phase voting Smasherino, which means the odds are that Mynd is Cult or Lannister - again, its a win/win.

 

Vote Mynd

 

I'm not saying that I agree with you regarding Crusher, but if I'm not mistaken, he was the first one to switch his vote to me after they moved their bribes from Smash to me. So if he was faking being bribed, then he would have to be a Lannister family member, otherwise he wouldn't know where the switch was going. Again, not saying that I agree with you, but that would be the case.

[WWWwombat]

Which means he's likely not cult.

[WWWwombat]

Err, make that less likely to be cult leader.

[John McClane]

  On 8/21/2011 at 5:21 AM, Bleedin Green said:

  On 8/21/2011 at 5:18 AM, John McClane said:

Vote Mynd

Pssst... it's night.

 

Noted, thanks.

 

  On 8/21/2011 at 6:10 AM, Sharrow said:

Reread the 1st day. Looks like the Ape King Kong act and tunnel vision worked again. Didn't really learn much except for everyone's relation to Jack & the Ape now knowing their original alignments, which is pretty much worthless. Not many other significant independent player/player interactions thanks to him.

 

All I got was a few probably meaningless potential distancing instances, and Alys possibly overselling an anti-cult stance in a couple posts. 257 & 425

 

That might be something to look into tomorrow. I'll hope for some better luck and reread the first night to present again tomorrow.

 

Also don't think Wombat is a Lannister family member based on an interaction he had with Lanth.

 

Wah-effing-wah... I only kicked into Ape mode when Jack made it abundantly clear he didn't know how the survivor role worked. Ape-ish? Yes. Reasonable? Yes, your damn right - I thought I had someone on D1 that wasn't a survivor. Given that my take on the game was that it was very survivor heavy, I thought that gave us better odds of nailing cult. I honestly didn't expect that Jack was survivor and just didn't know how his own damn role worked.

 

Anyhow, the value of D1 is that its led to a chain of survivor tells - so while we didn't get the 1-on-1 interactions you were looking for, we did narrow the pool a bit. Granted nothing that happened on D1 is going to be too helpful in a conversion game anyhow.

 

  On 8/21/2011 at 6:14 AM, Sharrow said:

  On 8/21/2011 at 5:18 AM, John McClane said:

My version:

Lan - Stark - Cult - Survivor (Confirmed only)

 

1) Lily/Sakaea - Lily showed one of her scum tells, but no read on Sakea, leaning survivor

2) Jack - Lysa Arryn, Survivor turned Lannister bannerman

3) Vic - unknown, no notable survivor tells, not engaged in game

4) Verbal - unknown, saw some survivor tells, but I'm still puzzled by him voting Jack D1, but then tearing down my D1 case on Jack

5) Wombat - Probably Family Aligned

6) Optimus Primate - Survivor

7) CTM - Probably Survivor

8) Crusher - no survivor tells, clearly faked being paid off for his vote

9) 80 - hiding from the game, very unlike JF80

10) Slats - avoiding real confrontation, no survivor tells, probably family aligned

11) Nae - no read

12) Smash - uncountered Jory Cassel/Stark Bannerman claim

13) Pac - Petyr Baelish, Survivor

14) Red - Jaime Lannister, Lannister Swordmaster

15) Far Dareis Mai - heavy read for survivor

16) Bleedin - Probably Family Aligned, Either Stark or the Lannisters were distancing.

17) BooBoo/JiF - Cersei Lannister

18) Adella - slight lean towards survivor, has reacted well to non-survivor cases, but not giving many actual tells that she is one

19) Myndrunner - not a survivor or Stark, needs to be lynched next

20) Hybrid - heavy lean towards survivor

21) Lanth/12th Regiment - Tyrion Lannister, Lannister Backup Paymaster

22) Barmacral - no read

23) DPR - definitely family aligned

24) the dude - no read, keeps showing up right after lynches

25) alys kinch - no read, similar to dude where she shows up in spurts - at what seems like safe times

26) Sharrow - leaning survivor

 

 

 

So, all that said - Mynd needs to be lynched on the same premise as JIFBoo. He went Stark hunting last day phase voting Smasherino, which means the odds are that Mynd is Cult or Lannister - again, its a win/win.

 

Vote Mynd

 

I'm not saying that I agree with you regarding Crusher, but if I'm not mistaken, he was the first one to switch his vote to me after they moved their bribes from Smash to me. So if he was faking being bribed, then he would have to be a Lannister family member, otherwise he wouldn't know where the switch was going. Again, not saying that I agree with you, but that would be the case.

 

Was he first? In that case yeah, then I'd lean Lannister before Cult with him. He was also one of the first to vote Smash on the take now that I think about it. Him being the first to get paid off like that makes NO sense... he hasn't cased anyone, hasn't pressured anyone, why would Crusher be one of the first people paid off for his vote? Also, why would he say he's been paid off?

 

DPR I believe was the other one that was very early in tipping a bought vote...

 

If I had to guess right now, I'd say that JF80, DPR and Crusher are all Lannister... at this point its probably safe to assume that Cult sees this too, and they are recruiting from the pool of "potential family aligned" that looks to be Stark, no?

 

Vic, Nae, Slats, Alys, Dude and Mynd all represent that I would consider a good starting place. JIF's case that Slats was cult is intriguing, probably not likely for JIF to make a bus play on a teammate given the state of the game for the Lannisters. So Slats is probably Stark or Cult, and regardless of this being right, Slats might be considered one of the top conversion candidates from JN, up there with Vic, Sharrow and CTM. Might be time to just lynch from the pool of "most likely conversion targets" and see if we can't nail cult...

[Smash]

McClane dont you consider yourself a conversion candidate ?

[Sakaea]

Too funny, all the Lannister sibs gone in 3 days What an amazing start to my day...

[the dude]

  On 8/21/2011 at 5:18 AM, John McClane said:

24) the dude - no read, keeps showing up right after lynches

 

this one irritates me; not the fact that you're pointing it out, mcclane, and not that you find it suspicious, but the fact that it's true haha. i'm on Eastern Time and get home from work around 4:30ish. for the first couple days when i got back there was a good 2 hours of catching up to do before i could even potentially post anything useful (ie having read everything). not a complaint, just explaining myself.

 

and yeah, twice now i've had the crummy luck of finding a lynch already settled heh. everyone seems to be most active just before i'm in a position to jump in. obviously that's nobody's fault but it's certainly unfortunate timing.

 

but anywho, i've mentioned it before and won't belabor it. the only thing i'm driving at is, i see myself beginning to pop up on potential lynch lists, and i'd ask that if i end up high on the vote count at some point and i haven't checked in, it just means i'm still stuck at the office, where they monitor net use (yes, they suck roughly 8 kinds of scrote and i hate them all. believe me. vic, i feel for ya cuz i'm 29 and stuck at a job i detest too. i help insurance companies make more money which is probably up there on the evil-scale). so i'd appreciate a chance to rebut if i end up high on the vote count. it's mighty hard to change people's minds once a vote gets up to a certain point, but i'd at least like the chance.

 

deal, guys ?

[the dude]

smash has a point here though; mcclane's been more useful and astute that i originally would have credited him for, but he's loud and has been a pretty big boon for the survivors so far; the cult's gotta be paying attention and sooner or later they're going to want him as the field narrows. he's very visible, yes, but it's not like anyone's really gunning for him so he's probably a pretty secure choice.

 

not saying we go after him just yet because like i said he's been pretty useful so far for the good guys, but smash is right, we should pay attention.

[the dude]

  On 8/21/2011 at 3:38 AM, Sharrow said:

Should the other Stark Bannerman come forward?

 

this is interesting and should probably be discussed. are we at a point where we're feeling secure in doing this? lannisters are very very down but not totally out; so on the one hand showing the hands of the starks now might help clear the waters but by the numbers there are still lannisters out there (not many but still) that could cause trouble, and the cultists are likely to enjoy knowing who they should be going for among the starks. i'm not convinced this is a good idea yet.

[Myndrunner]

You have me all wrong, good sir. Twas I who switched my vote to our own JifBoo. Interesting that I am the target of Mr John McClane's push in that I am hardly one to give any information at all. Why is this push for me all of a sudden? I must admit, I have been less active in this game as I would like, but half as active as most of you deserve.

 

Perhaps I should just throw my lot in with the Starks and coast on through to the end? Might be the best plan for the greater good after all.

[Myndrunner]

  On 8/21/2011 at 2:03 PM, Sakaea said:

Too funny, all the Lannister sibs gone in 3 days What an amazing start to my day...

 

By the way, consider the motivation behind one posting this? Why would Sakaea so desperately want us all to believe that 3 Lannisters down was a good thing to her? Perhaps someone wants us to think they are against House Lannister when in fact, they are the last remnant.

[Adella]

  On 8/21/2011 at 3:37 PM, Myndrunner said:

  On 8/21/2011 at 2:03 PM, Sakaea said:

Too funny, all the Lannister sibs gone in 3 days What an amazing start to my day...

 

By the way, consider the motivation behind one posting this? Why would Sakaea so desperately want us all to believe that 3 Lannisters down was a good thing to her? Perhaps someone wants us to think they are against House Lannister when in fact, they are the last remnant.

Just gonna point out that Sakaea had mentioned before how much she dislikes the Lannister sibs, especially the female, not sure if this kills your point or re-enforces it, as I can see it going either way depending on how people read this.

[John McClane]

  On 8/21/2011 at 2:01 PM, Smash said:

McClane dont you consider yourself a conversion candidate ?

 

Everyone is a candidate Smash, however I haven't been converted. My point with the post earlier was that the perceive "good players" will often be converted first... it could be a flawed assumption, but I'm just thinking out loud. I think conversion targets are going to depend on whether the cult is JN-heavy or DM-heavy.

[John McClane]

  On 8/21/2011 at 2:38 PM, the dude said:

  On 8/21/2011 at 5:18 AM, John McClane said:

24) the dude - no read, keeps showing up right after lynches

 

this one irritates me; not the fact that you're pointing it out, mcclane, and not that you find it suspicious, but the fact that it's true haha. i'm on Eastern Time and get home from work around 4:30ish. for the first couple days when i got back there was a good 2 hours of catching up to do before i could even potentially post anything useful (ie having read everything). not a complaint, just explaining myself.

 

and yeah, twice now i've had the crummy luck of finding a lynch already settled heh. everyone seems to be most active just before i'm in a position to jump in. obviously that's nobody's fault but it's certainly unfortunate timing.

 

but anywho, i've mentioned it before and won't belabor it. the only thing i'm driving at is, i see myself beginning to pop up on potential lynch lists, and i'd ask that if i end up high on the vote count at some point and i haven't checked in, it just means i'm still stuck at the office, where they monitor net use (yes, they suck roughly 8 kinds of scrote and i hate them all. believe me. vic, i feel for ya cuz i'm 29 and stuck at a job i detest too. i help insurance companies make more money which is probably up there on the evil-scale). so i'd appreciate a chance to rebut if i end up high on the vote count. it's mighty hard to change people's minds once a vote gets up to a certain point, but i'd at least like the chance.

 

deal, guys ?

 

Hmmm... interesting that you found it necessary to defend to this extent...

[John McClane]

  On 8/21/2011 at 3:29 PM, Myndrunner said:

You have me all wrong, good sir. Twas I who switched my vote to our own JifBoo. Interesting that I am the target of Mr John McClane's push in that I am hardly one to give any information at all. Why is this push for me all of a sudden? I must admit, I have been less active in this game as I would like, but half as active as most of you deserve.

 

Perhaps I should just throw my lot in with the Starks and coast on through to the end? Might be the best plan for the greater good after all.

 

Should be self-explanatory - you voted Smash, an uncountered Stark claim, when we should be hunting Cult.

 

Basically that makes you a dumb survivor, a Lannister or Cult. All 3 worthy of being dispatched in the next day phase.

[John McClane]

  On 8/21/2011 at 3:37 PM, Myndrunner said:

  On 8/21/2011 at 2:03 PM, Sakaea said:

Too funny, all the Lannister sibs gone in 3 days What an amazing start to my day...

 

By the way, consider the motivation behind one posting this? Why would Sakaea so desperately want us all to believe that 3 Lannisters down was a good thing to her? Perhaps someone wants us to think they are against House Lannister when in fact, they are the last remnant.

 

Lannister and their depleted numbers are not the enemy bub, in fact they are not even a threat. I've heard you are good at this game, so you should be able to figure out that Cult is the enemy by now.

[John McClane]

  On 8/21/2011 at 3:15 PM, the dude said:

smash has a point here though; mcclane's been more useful and astute that i originally would have credited him for, but he's loud and has been a pretty big boon for the survivors so far; the cult's gotta be paying attention and sooner or later they're going to want him as the field narrows. he's very visible, yes, but it's not like anyone's really gunning for him so he's probably a pretty secure choice.

 

not saying we go after him just yet because like i said he's been pretty useful so far for the good guys, but smash is right, we should pay attention.

 

Very OMGUS of you... but I'll address it anyway. I'm playing as out front as I can, in order to make myself a bad conversion candidate. I'm casing in night phase purposely, and hopefully casing in the right direction, which should make me a terrible conversion candidate... since being converted will likely require me to change my tune.

 

Bit of a wifom sure, but hopefully this helps you understand how I'm playing this game and why I'm saying what I say, when I say it.

[Verbal32]

Mynd, you are showing every sign of being cult, my friend.

[John McClane]

  On 8/21/2011 at 8:45 PM, Verbal32 said:

Mynd, you are showing every sign of being cult, my friend.

 

DING! DING! DING! DING!

[Smash]

I agree on Mynd

[Myndrunner]

  On 8/21/2011 at 8:45 PM, Verbal32 said:

Mynd, you are showing every sign of being cult, my friend.

 

Of course, there cannot be any other possibility why I would vote Smash, in all the games we've played together. ;)

 

Now, I do take complete offense to any accusation that I would sell out to the bloody Lannisters *spits* for I am a man of honor and decency and do what is for the greater good. To think that anyone would imply that my vote is for sale is....preposterous! Gold directing my vote? HA!

 

Perhaps if I threw my lot in with the Starks, who seem to be honorable and good people, it would be seen as bandwagoning, but I'm 'fraid the good of the land and the greater good must be considered here. My vote to aid in the end of Lady BooBoo's life should hold at least some merit.

 

Let us also consider the dynamics of this game. Who would be the cult exactly? The White Walkers? Not really making sense within the Game of Thrones mythology. What about Kal Drago's army? Not really a cult either. So why again are we pointing fingers and screaming cult and getting our knickers all in a bunch?

 

I say to you all, I voted the way that my....ahem.....good will directed me to. Take that for what you will, but my lynch will not only give no information but also will currently not help Lannister, Stark, or any other faction. Why, keeping me alive would actually benefit any faction willing to contribute to....*cough cough*....the greater good.