[Advanced/Experimental] Game of Thrones Mafia

[Vicious89x]

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:12 PM, Sakaea said:

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:10 PM, Vicious89x said:

 

I don't *think* that their is another Cult Leader. I do think that the Cult has their own QT to plan on.

 

Agreed. Personally the more I sit here the more I feel our inactive folks are a good way to go. If you get me, smash, ctm, etc. going after one another the cult just stays out of it and keeps their heads low until the game gets thinner to give themselves a chance.

 

 

^^Agreed. Maybe that's why Krak hasn't shown up...?

 

Krak showed up and basically flipped a middle finger and left. Maybe it had to do with catching up and jumping in as cult? Probably a stretch but someone mentioned he's been posting elsewhere but not here.

[CTM]

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:24 PM, Vicious89x said:

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:13 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:10 PM, Vicious89x said:

 

Agreed. Personally the more I sit here the more I feel our inactive folks are a good way to go. If you get me, smash, ctm, etc. going after one another the cult just stays out of it and keeps their heads low until the game gets thinner to give themselves a chance.

thoughts on hybrid?

 

I am having a difficult time with the DM folks since I'm very much a "feel" kind of player and I think you know that pretty well. Hybrid has been pretty steady the entire game. I haven't seen any major flair ups or anything like that. I probably feel better about Hybrid than most.

Right.. which is why if I were cult leader, I'd of recruited him

[Vicious89x]

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:35 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:24 PM, Vicious89x said:

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:13 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:10 PM, Vicious89x said:

 

Agreed. Personally the more I sit here the more I feel our inactive folks are a good way to go. If you get me, smash, ctm, etc. going after one another the cult just stays out of it and keeps their heads low until the game gets thinner to give themselves a chance.

thoughts on hybrid?

 

I am having a difficult time with the DM folks since I'm very much a "feel" kind of player and I think you know that pretty well. Hybrid has been pretty steady the entire game. I haven't seen any major flair ups or anything like that. I probably feel better about Hybrid than most.

Right.. which is why if I were cult leader, I'd of recruited him

 

Honestly I hadn't considered that.

[Hybrid]

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:10 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/25/2011 at 3:58 PM, Hybrid said:

  On 8/25/2011 at 3:45 PM, CTM said:

i'm not defending anymore cause the accusations are absurd. I shot the ape, slats died the next day, but somehow I'm the best choice for a convert ... there's literally nothign to defend... oh, me and the ape argued.. 1) happens all the time 2) I cased him on being cult and was right

 

You could have been recruited Night 3, becoming cult (that is, learning that you were converted) after you took a shot at the ape.

Yes, based on that unlikely coincidence, I should be the top suspect.. (nevermind the fact that I spent the entire following day explaining why I thought ape was cult when he previously had no suspicion and eventually backed off cause of all the complaining)

 

I'm not considering you the top suspect yet. Just saying that you taking a shot at him proves nothing.

[CTM]

If i were cult leaderI take ... Ape, Hybrid/wombat and someone low key like Far or Sakea..

 

Maybe sakea since slats came out strong against lily early

[DPR]

Yep. I can get down with that.

 

Unvote CTM. Vote Sakaea

[Barmacral]

I'm willing to give that a shot, plus at this point cult likely won't be bussing their own, so if she flips cult then I can rule CTM as likely to be trustworthy.

 

Unvote, Vote: Sakaea

[Barmacral]

Also, @mod, can we get a prod on J80 and Krak to show up?

[Kivam]

Vote Count

 

CTM (1) - Smash

Smash (2) - Vic, CTM

JF80 (1) - Sakaea

Sakaea (2) - DPR, Barm

[Hybrid]

OK, here's my breakdown. My thoughts are in bold. I'm way too lazy to quote or link, but I've listed the post #.

 

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Listing this first so that anyone too lazy doesn't have to scroll through this mammoth post to find it.

 

TL;DR summary

 

DPR, Wombat, Vic, JF80 probably not cult.

Smash might be cult.

Unsure about CTM, Dude, Barm.

Need to hear more from Sakaea, Krak, FDM.

 

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DPR

- D4, 1909, suggested buy-votes-coordinate-NKs plan

Could be pro-cult, could also just be pro-Stark

- D4, 1956, votes slats (2) for disappearing after building up votes

No need to draw attention to slats here

- D4, 1967, suggests narrowing down cult leader instead of going for conversion candidates

- D4, 2103, suggests CTM/Ape gambit

- D4, 2183, McClane puts him at 4 votes when slats is at 5 and the Mynd wagon isn't progressing (Mynd was at 7)

McClane could easily have gone back to Mynd.

Initially had him as a possible cult convert (though I was going to leave him until later since I'm a Stark).

Now leaning not cult.

 

Vic

- D4, 2049, votes slats (4) for not being as aggressive as usual

He jumps off quickly when McClane draws attention to DPR's slip -- see below

- D4, 2065, doesn't think CTM is cult, Smash is definitely a cult candidate

- D4, 2128, agrees with slats, votes DPR (2)

Possibly a coordinated cult move?

- D4, 2216, votes slats (7) (Mynd was at 6)

He could have pushed a Mynd lynch instead.

According to Smash, he shot McClane last night. Either Smash is lying, and therefore both Smash and Vic are cult, or Vic is not cult.

Leaning not cult based on this.

 

Wombat

- D4, 1907, votes slats (1), calls Mynd useless lynch

- D4, 1914, top cult suspects = Barm, slats, Vic

- D4, 1959, votes slats (3) again (previously unvoted to vote Sharrow)

Starting a slats wagon when only Mynd had votes, but he unvotes later and goes for Mynd instead

- D4, 2082, votes Mynd (7) for being cryptic and asking for gold

Drew attention to slats early but later abandoned it.

Very tentative lean towards not cult for initially going after slats.

 

JF80

- D4, 1916, his #1 for cult, plans to continue voting him until dead, votes slats (2)

Need to hear more from him. But leaning not cult.

 

Smash

- N3, 1834, calls out McClane as conversion candidate

- D4, 1921, could lynch Mynd or slats

- D4, 2004, votes McClane (1)

- D4, 2042, no problem voting slats or Mynd

- D4, 2088, suggests Mynd is cult leader but holstered the night he was tracked b/c he knew Smash would track him

This is nonsense. Possibly trying to derail slats wagon.

- D4, 2229, votes slats (8)

After momentum has shifted towards slats.

Good cult recruit due to his role.

He and McClane spend most of the day going back and forth but don't really try to kill each other.

I'd lean cult on him more than CTM.

 

CTM

- D4, 1910, disagrees with DPR's plan, too risky to let swords get in cult hands

- D4, 1915, slats as good bet for cult/Lannister

But never follows up on it

- D4, 2037, tells people to shoot McClane at night

- D4, 2051, lists a comprehensive case on McClane as cult, votes Barm (1)

The above two posts combined don't make a whole lot of sense as cult.

- D4, 2173, votes DPR (3) for continuing to throw out the NK suggestions

- D4, 2194, agrees with DPR's plan

This is the 180 I was talking about. Earlier he was opposed to this plan. Also, I think he claimed that he turned Stark, so the gold should be worthless to him.

- D4, 2235, cool with a slats lynch, votes slats (10) hammer

He and McClane spent most of the day accusing each other of being cult, but didn't really push a lynch on each other.

He had a weird 180 on the DPR plan.

But his push to finger McClane as cult and get him NKed doesn't make much sense if he's cult. I'd lean cult if it wasn't for this. As it is, I'm unsure.

 

Dude

- D4, 1958, votes Mynd (7)

- D4, 1998, McClane votes him as possible cult leader, citing CTM/Smash behavior after McClane poked at Dude

- D4, 2233, votes slats (9)

He bandwagoned Mynd and only voted slats when the momentum was shifting.

On the other hand, McClane spent most of the Day pointing to him as cult. But there was no real lynch building up.

Unsure -- no real tells either way.

 

Barm

- D4, 1894, votes Mynd (2)

- D4, 2083, thinks Mynd isn't cult leader, good shot for recruit, maybe Lannister bannerman

Unsure. Need to hear more from him today.

 

FDM

- D4, 2044, wonders why CTM is going after McClane, points out the shooting McClane and Crusher not squaring with going after cult

Possible defense of McClane.

Need to hear more from her. Willing to pressure vote.

 

Lily/Sakaea

Need to hear more from her.

Willing to pressure vote.

 

Krak

Need to hear from him, period. Willing to pressure vote.

[Hybrid]

Vote Smash/b]

[Krakalakachkn]

Shit you guys, I apologize.

 

 

Gimme a few hours to get outta class and finish reading.

[Kivam]

Vote Count

 

CTM (1) - Smash

Smash (3) - Vic, CTM, Hybrid

JF80 (1) - Sakaea

Sakaea (2) - DPR, Barm

 

7 to Lynch

[CTM]

  On 8/25/2011 at 6:47 PM, Hybrid said:

 

CTM

- D4, 1910, disagrees with DPR's plan, too risky to let swords get in cult hands

- D4, 1915, slats as good bet for cult/Lannister

But never follows up on it --- been kicking myself for this tbh, i also said something about him pinging me hard but got distracted, i think by red

- D4, 2037, tells people to shoot McClane at night

- D4, 2051, lists a comprehensive case on McClane as cult, votes Barm (1)

The above two posts combined don't make a whole lot of sense as cult.

- D4, 2173, votes DPR (3) for continuing to throw out the NK suggestions

- D4, 2194, agrees with DPR's plan

This is the 180 I was talking about. Earlier he was opposed to this plan. Also, I think he claimed that he turned Stark, so the gold should be worthless to him. I was opposed to the original plan of having a bunch of swords go out (remember ape agreed with it)... I did a 180 cause doing it for 1 person (OR SELFISHLY FOR ME!) was more palatable

- D4, 2235, cool with a slats lynch, votes slats (10) hammer

He and McClane spent most of the day accusing each other of being cult, but didn't really push a lynch on each other. didn't push the lynch cause i didn't think he was CL

 

He had a weird 180 on the DPR plan.

But his push to finger McClane as cult and get him NKed doesn't make much sense if he's cult. I'd lean cult if it wasn't for this. As it is, I'm unsure.

 

in red above

[Krakalakachkn]

  On 8/25/2011 at 4:06 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Alright, let's back up and get some perspective:

 

In a cult game, with the Cult Leader dead, do we really think that remaining cult would take out their own?

 

Plus, out of 15 players, it would be a long-shot to think that you would be the one Tracked.

 

I don't *think* that their is another Cult Leader. I do think that the Cult has their own QT to plan on.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Makes sense to me, especially the QT. I know if I were cult, I wouldn't go down without a fight.

[Far Dareis Mai]

I'm not sure what more you folks want to hear from me...I've told you my thoughts on this. I've been active and posting every single day.

 

I'm willing to vote for Sakaea, but she mentioned she's going to be out for today. I didn't really understand her JF80 vote when in the same post she said she thought someone else was more scummy. I'm still convinced 80 is a Lannister. I think Krak a possible candidate for scum, as well as Barm--things I've already mentioned. :P

 

Vote: Sakaea

[Hybrid]

I'm OK with a Sakaea lynch as well, since I think she and Krak are Lannisters.

[Kivam]

Vote Count

 

CTM (1) - Smash

Smash (3) - Vic, CTM, Hybrid

JF80 (1) - Sakaea

Sakaea (3) - DPR, Barm, FDM

 

Not voting: Wombat, JF80, Krak, Dude

 

7 to Lynch

[Sakaea]

on my phone atm. i'm Shae, a survivor. i am not cult. i voted for 80 because atm him & krak are both suspicious to me. i will be back online prob this evening.

[Krakalakachkn]

Sakaea for now.

 

 

Based on his "feud" with the small ape and given that he was the most obvious candidate for a cult conversion, I'd say that he's tentatively not cult.

[Krakalakachkn]

and by "him" I mean CMT.

[Far Dareis Mai]

You picked a whore for your game, Kivam? Geeez.

[CTM]

the speed of this train feels too fast..

 

maybe we only have 1 or 2 cult left so there's no negative momentum, but how often does town get it right so quickly

[Far Dareis Mai]

Which train? Smash or Sakaea?

[Smash]

I should have been patient and not said anything right off the bat but VIC Killed the APE and it seems he does not want to confirm it. This just confirms for me that he is cult. Yesterday VIC said out of the clear blue he was going to vote me. I figured this was VIC setting a trap for me to track him that evening which I did. Then he shoots the APE and his first vote today was on me claiming I was Cult which is a load of crap. At that point I let all of you know (as I have done all game) that I tracked VIC and he Killed the APE . VIC has no reason not to confirm my findings unless he is cult.

 

I feel there were 3 cult left, VIC, APE(McClane) and another (not sure who)... McClane was drawing attention to himself the entire game and I would not doubt the plan was for VIC to kill him and make himself look innocent. VIC knew I would come into the thread letting you all know about the killing yet he never confirmed it. This is the work of scummy cult IMO. Im not sure McClane was worried about a lynch, I think he was worried about getting shot at night by a non cult player so it made perfect sense for VIC to Kill him .

 

To say Im cult after I pushed for the Slats lynch 2 days in a row including the day he was actully lynched is whats absurd here. I know Mynd was part of that reasoning but I think we can all agree Mynd played a little wacky this game.

 

Also you should take notice that VIC really didnt contribute to the game early on when he was probably recruited and pissed off (he hates being recruited) then he became very active after the death of slats.

 

Dont think for a second VIC would not try and set a trap like this for me. He likes to set traps and loves the ahhh haaa moment more than anyone.

 

Also if VIC was so sure I was cult Why didnt he just Kill me last night ??

 

Unvote CTM

 

Vote VIC