Eyes in TAR

[BlckAlchmst]

I was just curious

I haven't seen this thought anywhere, maybe I just missed it.

But has anyone thought how the unseen eyes in TAR are alot like the unseen eyes in Shadar Logoth?

Could it be possible that some how Mashadar got introduced into TAR?

[mb]

Wild animals and Heroes I take to be the only residents of Telaranrhiod.

Mashadar I guess was never in Telaranrhiod.

 

"alot like" would depend on interpretation and/or on definition.

 

The sense of being watched often gives an eerie feeling; at least in that sense they would be alike.

[LemonPastie]

As far as I am aware, Perrin never mentions the unseen eyes in TAR - does he in Shadar Logoth? Everyone else who gets a POV in TAR mentions the eyes

[mb]

Shadar Logoth, that POV (if I remember correctly) was Rand's; and I do not recall any type of discussion while the 3 walked there.

 

 

Being a wolfbrother probably prevents the eyes.

 

Do not recall Rand mentioning the eyes while he was in Telaranrhiod.

[BlckAlchmst]

I don't recall Rand mentioning the eyes either, but they only started happening after Rand entered TAR in the flesh in tDR,

and the only time I can remember after that of Rand entering the unseen world is when he fights one of the Forsaken there in the flesh.

Could it be that prolonged exposure to Mat and the Shadar Logoth dagger somehow spread a remnant of the taint on to Rand?

The Aes Sedai seem to think that proximity is enough to spread it.

So if Rand were to have been tainted, even slightly by the dagger, and entered TAR in the flesh as he did, wouldn't it stand to reason that some of that taint could have spread to the unseen world?

At first the only mention of the unseen eyes are in the Heart of The Stone in TAR, exactly the location where Rand entered the unseen world in the flesh and fought Ishamael. Only later did it spread, and that could perhaps be from Rand entering TAR in the flesh again somewhere else.

It's all idle speculation of course, but I feel the similarities TOO similar to overlook.

[Luckers]

Check out my thread on this: The Unseen Eyes of Tel'aran'rhiod

 

Obviously I was wrong about it being the BUT, but the correlation between the Unseen Eyes of TAR, the Unseen Eyes of Shadar Logoth and the Unseen Eyes of Padan Fain are all still viable.

[Durinax]

I think that AS feel the eyes because it is a entity composed of the collective consciousness of the world. in fact I believe that if no one/animal were sleeping there would be no TAR to visit since there are no minds to keep it up.

[MauricXe]

I think that AS feel the eyes because it is a entity composed of the collective consciousness of the world. in fact I believe that if no one/animal were sleeping there would be no TAR to visit since there are no minds to keep it up.

 

TAR is one of the constants of the universe, it would exist even if none were there.

[FarShainMael]

I reckon the UE of TAR are the wolves, TAR seems to be their second home.

 

But whether they are also the UE of SL.. I'd have to ask Hopper.

[Ogrelin]

Heroes of the Horn?

 

Did't Birgitte and Gaidal watch the main characters in Tar before finally deciding to make contact?

[Morsker]

I think it's simply human nature in WoT to be able to detect hidden watchers. T'A'R is sensitive to the visitor's beliefs and expectations, and is in a way "watching" them, and this generates the feeling there. Mashadar is drawn to life and has to wait for night to come out, and that's enough for it to generate the same feeling: it's watching and waiting. There's no single cause of it. It's something all humans can feel, when watched by anything, just like anyone can learn the weather-ignoring trick even if most people don't.

[SylvanFox]

Heroes of the Horn?

 

Did't Birgitte and Gaidal watch the main characters in Tar before finally deciding to make contact?

 

You beat me to it.