[Advanced] Monty Python and the Holy Grail Mafia (Game Over)

[bgrishinko]

Actually IMO BG if Charis flips scum then Red looks scummier. For previously stated reasons.

 

That's fair, I wasn't referrning to previously stated reasons that would imply Red. I was referring to this specific case of calling out Charis so openly which doesn't seem very team friendly.

 

Of course, Red and Team could be sacrificing Charis and that's why she was the one to point out the PR . . .

 

Thoughts?

[bgrishinko]

That is a good point Sakaea, Krak is gone and Mod Hammer may not be in effect for a few days.

 

I still think it seems likely though on this point. Jack, when you were silenced, did you get a similar message?

[Sedai]

BG the way I see it. If Charis committed a modkillable offense then she's dead anyway. Red walks away smelling like a rose if Charis is scum. They could be on a team and already have cleared the question so Red again looks like an uber townie for pointing it out and keeping Charis. It's early in the game so a gambit is a very feasible strategy to clear the mafia. Even more so if Red is godfather.

[Sedai]

Nah. I was just told I was silenced and could t post

[bgrishinko]

I guess that makes sense since you can't say anything when silenced anyway.

 

Who else was forced to vote? Maybe we can get better info from them. I can't remember...

[Sedai]

Min. Didn't GF vote wombat two or three tines? No one commented on that. I assumed HR haf his vote controlled. Just saying.

[bgrishinko]

Well, I've taken note of that.

 

GF has been on my list for a while now.

[Minuet]

I think someone is handing out restrictions. Whether they are vote conditions or silencing. It might just be one person with the power, or two people with different powers. The silencing people for a day is really horrible since we can't hear from them. Not to mention I like to lynch less active players as the game goes on.

 

So, Jack you think some of the votes on Wombat are controlled. Mine isn't. When I had the vote restriction I let you all know. So, the fact that we know Charis has a vote restriction on Wombat today makes me wonder if anyone else has a restriction. It would be nice to know if we have two people handing out restrictions or just one.

 

 

[Red2111]

*Red laughs from her castle, snubbing her nose at the brits below* No you cannot come into my castle, and it is none of your business what i'm doing here either sirs. continue to ask entrance and i will insult you more!!

 

 

Charis's alingment shouldn't clear me or implicate me, if anything it just enlightens us as to her motives and goals from what she's said. so if Charis flips scum, and i hope she does considering we have yet to catch oneof them, this shoudln't clear me. Jack and others are right when they say it could be a gambit.

 

that said, i'd like to address soemthing. Jack is trying really hard to link me together with Charis, he's also tried to claim i'm a God Father. so not only is he trying to link me with a possible scum, but he's also trying to assign me a role that will discount any finder reveal that might clear me.

 

in a game this big, and if this game does have a God Father in it, i would hope that we have a role finder. if so, its a good chance the role finder already veiwed me to make sure my previous role claim of Dennis the Digger and Vanilla townie has been checked and confirmed.

 

or their coudl be a Lie Detector, and in that case it would be the same result, as i'd expect to have already been outed at this point in time. in case there is a Lie Detector, then they can check this statement if they wish "I win with the town" that should take care of any possability i might be cult, sk, scum or any other anti town faction that might be in play. now i'm not trying to direct the LD or role finder, and like i've asked the finder before. if you have or are going to view me, don't out yourself just to clear me. my death will give loads of info and i'm only a vanilla, ya'll finders are alot more important than me in this game.

 

Jack, since your so focused on the potential for a God Father, why not go ahead and repeat the bolded line as well, this way if there is a LD they can clear you too.

 

 

 

also, when i said i found it odd that people ignored GF's newting statement, i meant that it was dropped suddenly Jack & Sakaea; not that i was the only one to pick up on it. sorry for getting aroudn so late to addressing that.

[Sedai]

I win with the town

[Sedai]

Red you tried to call me symp and you get mad at me for calling you a godfather. Pot-kettle

 

Linking players is a good and effective strategy. Just because you disagree doesn't mean it's not true.

 

Mafia know who each other are and linking people according to posts is effective.

[bgrishinko]

*BG sits back with a bag of popcorn to watch as the Jack and Red Fireworks Show begins again*

[Graendals favourite]

Isn't that a mafia kind of thing to say, should both Red and Jack be town?

[bgrishinko]

Isn't that a mafia kind of thing to say, should both Red and Jack be town?

 

 

Is that directed at me? Sorry, wasn't trying to imply anything. just thought it would be a fun way to poke fun at the situation and bring attention to it before it blows out of porprtion.

[Graendals favourite]

Oh well, was just being funny.

 

How many of us are left? We've lost 6 I think, am I right, 2 cult, 3 vanilla and brave sir Robert, the tracer, with 19 left. Someone thought 6 might be mafia, and one or two cult left. Need'a get scum.

[Sedai]

Well since their is/was a cult then their probably are only four mafia and a symp

[Graendals favourite]

Oh, well, but doesn't this, anyway, make red a bit suspicious. I think she spoke of 6 mafioso, but I forget if this was before the cult was revealed or after. I think after.

[bgrishinko]

Players

 

1. Wombat

2. TinaHel Killed Night 3 - Cult Leader

3. Charis

4. Kiliulu

5. Berf Night Killed Night 3 - Cult

6. GF

7. Moon Lynched Day 3 - Mafia Symp

8. Nyn

9. Player

10. JLM Night Killed Night 1 - town

11. Vieira Day 1 lynch not achieved. Random modkill - town

12. Blackhoof Lynched Day 2 - town

13. leelou

14. Tiinker

15. Key

16. AJ Lia

17. Jack D

18. Christine

19. trench

20. bg

21. Red

22. csarmi Night Killed Night 2 - town

23. Sakaea

24. Min

25. Alanna

 

 

GF, your post made me go back and recount the players and I count 18. Krak said 22 with 12 to lynch, but that doesn't add up, so I'm thinking 18 with 10 to lynch? Also I noticed that Krak has been color coding the killings and it appears that all the mafia killings have been in red which leads me to believe that the Mafia took out Berf last night. I suppose Tina probably tried to convert one of them the same night. I think there is info we can gleam from this. We can review Berf's posts and see why it is the Mafia would kill him. We also might be able to figure out some other cultists by who Tina and Berf were sympathetic towards. That's a longer shot. But at least there is something to be learned from Berf's posts since we know he is the one they wanted dead.

[Sedai]

Blue seems to indicate a townie action. So possibly a vig.

[Sedai]

When I say town I mean like a lynchhas more townies then scum

[keyholder21]

Blue seems to indicate a townie action. So possibly a vig.

 

That's a good point. Honestly, I haven't even gone back to look at the first page, but with the colors it would seem as if the actions were for Town and Mafia.

[killuliu]

I'm sorry I've been away, I've been trying to catch up again (I was away from last week's Friday to this week's Monday, and then Wednesday) so I've been trying to read everything through, but honestly, you aren't making it that easy. For me it seems that we don't have much of a real consensus who might be mafia, most believe Red to be possible mafia, and also Charis, am I right?

 

I will still read everything more carefully, but I wouldn't mind if someone could give some kind of summary :) I will most likely vote later today if I find a good candidate.

 

And Krak: I think this seems a very excellent game, but few things I miss from other games: the vote count and DL in the beginning message, and also the links for the ends of days and nights ( in the same beginning message) :) I would really appreciate it, if you could add them. And keep up the good work! :)

[bgrishinko]

I haven't had a lot of time to look back at Berf's posts, but it looks like he was pushing pretty hard for a Red lynch near the end, but also pretty cool with Moon as well.

[keyholder21]

Right. But he was Cult, soo that doesn't rule out that Red could be mafia. Or Town.

[killuliu]

Bah.. Somehow I really don't have much to say :/ I tried to read past few days again, but honestly, my gut has really never been this confused. The only thing I find really odd and most likely scum is Charis' claim that his vote would be controlled (Red claimed he was forbidden to even suggest her vote was controlled, so assuming she speaks the truth about it...).

I think Jack isn't acting the same way as in the last game we played together, but I can't really make any conclusions what it means, as I think I've played only one game with him :)

 

Vote Charis

PS. I promise to be more active from now on (at the moment I don't have any trips coming on, so for the next 8 days I should have decant access to my computer)