[Advanced] Monty Python and the Holy Grail Mafia (Game Over)

[csarmi]

BG it's been an ongoing thing between Csarmi and myself. Everygame he replies at me basically, "you don't know what your talking bout shut up" when that's not the case. I'm tired and annoyed of that behavior. Like He is an authority or something. I'm not going to FoS someone for being narrow-minded, or Thinking they are the be all and end all and anyone who plays different then what they believe is the correct play, well they are obviously slow or scum. No thats a personal problem and it doesn't fit the game. Besides OMGUS is only a good reason for a vote on day 1.

 

Funny, because for me it seems YOU acting knowing-all and narrow-minded. :-)

 

As for me being an authority. Sure, I'm God of Maffia. Played only five times and I have an unquestionable judgement already. I deem you scum.

[WWWwombat]

Guess I'm gonna have to add csarmi to the list of people Jack could be running a gambit with @_@

[Sedai]

@Csarmi I think I'm getting to understand you. I think we both just have strong opinions.

 

@wombat you can't forget the secret gambit I'm running with you

[WWWwombat]

D'oh!

[Red2111]

*Red shifts her feet in her sleep, head lolling a bit aginst her shoulders and mumbling abotu attacking tresspassers*

 

 

the post below is the one i refer to and why i stopped reading what he posted tbh. when i read this over the weekand i was under the influence (Drunk Mafia is fun btw) and the initial response i had to this still sticks. i think his "cases" on this have more to do with perosnal feelings of the people on his lynch rather than game related reasons as to why in game he woudl get this assessment of the people he's pointed out. as i said, it was near personal attacks as far as i'm concerned, not out right personal attacks; but i could see it degrading quickly into that which is why i backed off him.

 

 

To the voters on my train

 

Charis: overly trying to sell her innocence, then she was defended by moon who most people believe is scummy. - Leaning scum

 

Csarmi: not really surprised. I get the feeling he just doesnt like me - No read, bit I'd suspect town

 

BG: no real scummy behavior. Although he his voting me because I went through on my thought process with reason, the same one he attempted but backed down when Red told him no

 

Red: been playing like a bully. Conveniently when casing people she has left out posts or parts of posts that'd make her argument less effective. She also refuses to answer a single question, thus fueling the confusion that she is voting me for creating

 

AMA: I haven't saw her post enough to really get a reading

 

Christine: basically used Ama's reasons and changed a few words. Opportunistic bandwagon vote, maybe.

 

So in summary. If you lynch me, you should then lynch Red. Because all of your basic reasoning for voting me is because I've saw a point I wanted clarification on, I gave reasons for wanting it. And because of that I have caused confusion. Where Red, who if she was as town friendly as she props herself up to be could have saved all the confusion just by answering it. Thus making her the fuel to the fire so she has caused as much confusion as I have. So the same basic principals for lynching me apply to Red.

 

 

CS - as to your other question about dissmissing him becuase i think he's a symp. playing into his game and allowing him to become the focus of another day is goign to help the scum more than help us imo. as Symp, his job is to take the heat off his team and allow them to sink back into the background by becommng the focus; which as you've noticed, he's done rather well. he's taken the focus off of Min & Moon and transferred it to himself. after all, as a symp, even if he's lynched but the scum wins, he still wins.

 

by continueing to argue with him; it just allows for us to waste another day on pointless debate and possible get another random lynch. also, argueing with him at this point woudl be beating a dead horse, as i'm not goign to change his opinion of me and he's certaintly not goign to change my opinion of him. if i was scum, i'd still argue with him to cause more confusion in the town; but seeing as i'm town aligned, i'd just prefer to lynch him and get the confusion settled.

 

 

i'd also be good with a lynch on Moon, or atleast alot of pressure on her. i don't like her avoiding answering the questions about the WIFOM she popped up with on D1, how she went quiet at the end of D1 (not just during D2, but as soon as people started pressuring her) as well as the other things people have questioned her about.

 

 

Min i'm unsure about, theres no info on her besides from D1, and i feel that Moon or Jack would give us more info right now.

[Red2111]

*Red awakens in a startling haste as she almost falls over, then looks aroudn quickly to make sure no one saw that she was infact asleep while on duty.*

 

 

Wombat, care to post why you FoS me?? you've posted since i've asked and have yet to give me an answer.

[Sedai]

Red there were no attacks above. You don't answer any questions I pose. Probably because you know in rite. If someone accused me of trimming posts I'd at least try and counter. You won't because you can't. You pointed out Vie a known townie for planting seeds when you yourself was doing the same thing.

[Red2111]

*Red stamps her boots to wake up her feet and the clanking of her metal armor echos through the woods.*

 

 

Jack i've answered why i'm ingonring you. you'r trying to make it seem like were playing a gambit, and you got the idea from the mention of it on thread btw becuase all this focusing on me didn't start until after Charis explained what a Gambit was.

 

as a symp, your trying hard to keep myself and you as the focus and i refuse to play into your games and continue to distract the town. only Scum try to continue on with a dead horse, which is what your doing. and i have answered your main question, 3 seperate times.

[Charis alAslan]

I wasn't being a jerk. I'm sorry to come off that way. I was calling Charis on trying to sound overly town. It seemed like a front.

 

Not that we havent beaten this into the ground til there's practically nothing left to say... (And this is for Berf, too, who says he finds me scummy for the same remark.)

I find it hilarious that you're harping on one line I said, Jack, and blowing it out of proportion, yet you FoS me for doing almost the same thing to you. Difference is I said it just once. I wasnt overplaying the innocent thing. I wasnt overly-stating anything in fact. It was just one line on Day 1. Yet, you sounded bloodthirsty in several posts. (Already linked, quoted, re-quoted and posted ad nauseum, so dont ask me for the references.) Maybe I'm wrong and it's not mafia bloodthirst - maybe it's an SK bloodthirst. You clearly have a role that you're trying to protect. Point is - you're doing the same thing back to me that I did to you, so dont sound overly righteous about your OMGUS. And yes, it's yours since I FoS'd you first. And that's all I'm going to say about it since I'm sick of repeating myself over and over.

 

First of all, I apologize for Silence, but I was turned into a newt.

 

 

 

 

I got better.

 

Lols.

 

Very interesting:

1. Wombat comes out of silence and FoS's Red. (PR given)

2. Moon comes out of silence and FoS's Jack. (Strange PR given. Real PR?)

3. Player comes out of silence and claims DM issues. (i.e. no PR, just technical difficulties)

4. Others? We still have some silences unaccounted for.

 

I'm just stating the obvious. If the silencers are being sincere, then we at least have a lead. Wombat, can you explain your FoS on Red, or did I miss it?

 

In post EDIT:

Several people posted while I was posting and I believe I may have repeated some stuff. Sorry about that. Otherwise, the only thing that sticks out to me is Jack (sarcastically I'm sure, but still interestingly), stating that there could be a gambit between him and Wombat. May be worth considering.

[Sedai]

I know what a gambit is. I helped invent a certain kind. Your ignoring me for me making personal attacks. I never made personal attacks so your argument is null and void.

 

Us being the focus could have easily been prevented if you'd have answered my question. Your as much to blame as myself.

 

*Red stamps her boots to wake up her feet and the clanking of her metal armor echos through the woods.*

 

 

Jack i've answered why i'm ingonring you. you'r trying to make it seem like were playing a gambit, and you got the idea from the mention of it on thread btw becuase all this focusing on me didn't start until after Charis explained what a Gambit was.

 

as a symp, your trying hard to keep myself and you as the focus and i refuse to play into your games and continue to distract the town. only Scum try to continue on with a dead horse, which is what your doing. and i have answered your main question, 3 seperate times.

[Sedai]

Charis I made one sentence about wanting day 1 to be over. You said it sounded like bloodlust and me wanting to kill people. You still assume so from one line and now you are saying I may have a role to protect which Os giving the mafia an open target. I know you weren't the first do so.

 

I call you out on one line where it sounds like your putting on a townie front. Then I call you on it Moon posts and defends you and I say it makes you look like your on a team.

 

It seems bad that your keeping this up while saying your not. My focus and others focus was on red. But you seem to be trying to split the attention. Scum buddies?

[WWWwombat]

I don't really have a case on Red. It's more meta/gut. I think something's off about her.

[csarmi]

Guess I'm gonna have to add csarmi to the list of people Jack could be running a gambit with @_@

 

Yay, I got into Wombat's list! Hurrah!

 

CS - as to your other question about dissmissing him becuase i think he's a symp. playing into his game and allowing him to become the focus of another day is goign to help the scum more than help us imo. as Symp, his job is to take the heat off his team and allow them to sink back into the background by becommng the focus; which as you've noticed, he's done rather well. he's taken the focus off of Min & Moon and transferred it to himself. after all, as a symp, even if he's lynched but the scum wins, he still wins.

 

Yea and what if he is not Symp?

[WWWwombat]

Maybe I'll case Red later if I'm not too lazy. Don't count on it. I almost never case people.

[Red2111]

*Red blinks several times attempting to stay awake and loses the battle as her eyelids slowly close. Her sword point digs into the wood of her bridge as she leans on it asleep once more.*

 

 

and once again Jack attempts to start up an arguement with me, and continue his one sided gambit. i specificaly said that what i preceieved as CLOSE to a personal attack was only ONE of the reasons i was ignoring you Jack. if you failed to see this or went all tunnel vision one thing said then thats not my problem.

 

people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Jack; doing some of the same things your accusing others of doing doesn't do very well for your credability or your cases. thats another reason why people are pretty much convinced your interests aren't in favor of the town.

[Sedai]

@CS I think it's to convenient not to answer the questions posed. At least for Red. She has had pretty scummy behavior and if she can avoid responsibility for it by not answering. Well that's what she's going to try

[WWWwombat]

I have a feeling Red is lynchproof scum.

[berf]

Agreeing on the silent people.

 

Still wondering about Charis and Moon being in cahoots. When Jack came at one, the other attacked in her stead. I forget which way, but why put yourself out there for another in this game? Especially when it risks getting embroiled in all of... *waves hands* this. To put your neck out for the sake of someone who's alignment you can't possibly know if they're town or not, well... Team, much?

 

Am yet to see anyone speaking of town teams, so I can only assume mafia, or, at the very least, cult.

 

 

TO MOON AND/OR CHARIS:

 

Why attack Jack when his attack on the other had nothing to do with you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you beleive it's still night? This is INSANE!

 

 

 

*weeeee drunk mafia!*

[Red2111]

*Red snores loudly and smacks her lips; her black armor shining in the moon light,*

 

 

Yea and what if he is not Symp?

 

hey i'm not the best at finding scum and half of the time my scumdar is quarky at best; so theres always the chance that i could be wrong.

 

but i'f i'm convinced right now that his intentions are not in favor of the town, and he's doign a good enough job on his own to hang himself without my help, why shoudl i play into his hands and give him what he wants by coninuting an arguement that is only going in circles? it doesn't help the town, and no one is really comming to his aid; so how does continueing to beat a dead horse with him help us find other scum?

 

it doesn't. the only thing it accomplishes is that the lime light stays on him and we possibly waste another day arguing back and forth which results in a random little info no help lynch. i'd rather we either lynch him, or agree to move onto to other people and ignore him until something new presents itself.

 

 

his focusing on background info rather than finding scum, his timing with this focus and attempting to support the "moon's been silenced claim" when she seemed sure to be lynched, his arguements and the fact that 50% of what he FoS's people for is what he himself does; then all this harping about "glad i'm lynched so i can prove you wrong" but not hammering himself so the lynch goes through seem like a Symp.

[WWWwombat]

Lol it's 9:44 AM here xD

[bgrishinko]

I know what a gambit is. I helped invent a certain kind.

 

I don't know why this made me laugh. What kind would that be?

[Red2111]

*Red slumps a bit while sleeping, close to falling over due to the wieght of her armor*

 

 

unlynchable scum Wombat??? i could see that role/alignment combo being an option if we had a 2nd scum team or a SK. but as we've only had one NK,l i can't say i find that possability likely.

 

after all, if theres a scum thats unlynchable, how are we supposed to win when our win condistion is when all threats are eliminated?? i mean the scum won't NK themselves and if the scum isn't lynchable then it's impossible to eliminate them.

 

 

 

i have seen unlyncable townies though, but never an unlynchable scum. would be interesting to add one of those roles in once i get back around to modding again though and i have been gettign that itch lately, been far too long since i've modded one of these games

[keyholder21]

ohmygosh, let's please waste more time talking about the same exact things .

 

 

Moon, since you are better now (lol), care to make any remarks on your perceived scummy behavior?

 

 

Wombat - I hadn't thought of that, the lynch proof scum I mean. How do you get rid of a scum like that? Can you?

[keyholder21]

Whoops - sorry for the double question *g* - I didn't see Red's post before I posted mine.

[Amadine]

Jack, what was your former DM handle?