[Advanced Mafia] Black Ajah - GAME OVER!

[Krakalakachkn]

Well if I ever linked Drew and BG, please let me know when.

 

Sorry man, I meant to say Player.

[bgrishinko]

What happened to all the adamant Drew voters from yesterday (game day)?

[Krakalakachkn]

Not sure. i was never very clear on the Drew suspicion.

[csarmi]

First, I'll be trying to get the case on me and address the points. I'm afraid there isn't much to go on, however...

 

We can see now that there was ONE person on every single lynch...

csarmi

 

Major FOS@csarmi.

 

also, one person was on NONE of the lynches

Player

 

i think that we can safely say that Player is innocent.... or is making his mafia teammates tear their hair out in frustration. :P

 

i will make changes if there is an NK. lets hope not :P

 

This and AT NIGHT! Very scummy, in my opinion. Town does not do casing in the night.

I've addressed this already and I'll do so again. I think a townie's job is to vote people. Lynch people.

Also, in this game 3 votes or 0 votes stands out. I think maffia are much more likely to be on 1 or 2 lynches in any case.

 

 

Day 3 I voted for drew who I would vote for again because he is on my list of who I am sure are black.

 

Actually looking at it more I see the teams solidly as BG and drew with csarmi as the single survivor of the other BA team

BG ran to defend Drew, then voted csarmi

csarmi was defending red but kinda saying he wasnt

 

on that note:

vote csarmi

Let's see if we can get rid of one team completely

BG is real close with drew next

 

Interesting. How can you be sure that someone is black?

I was defending Red? In which game? I've been FOS'ing her most of the time. I must be very tricky indeed. Now if I was Red's team (with Mav the third I suppose?), why would we miss day 2's lynch with one member dead already?

 

 

I'm going to Vote csarmi

 

He was on all three lynches and on the Drew lynch he was last one to vote and on the Phelix lynch he was the second to last to vote. He was in the middle of the Berf lynch. Seems to me like he's doing his best to be on the lynch to get his team a NK.

 

I addressed it in post#544. Who is my team then and how did I help them get a NK, especially with the day three actions (did my team have a perma-NK then already, or was it gained by day3's actions somehow? If yes, how? What are your thoughts? You must have a good guess by now, don't you?

 

Don't get me wron Krak, from today's actions I have an absolutely town read on you. I'm really interested in your thoughts.

 

I'll vote Csarmi pending a reskim of the thread.... I've nearly forgotten who my last suspects were, aside from Drew, and no one is really standing out to me at the moment.

 

That's not even a reason. I understand that we need to consolidate however, so it sounds fair enough for me.

More and more I think that mmeeshal is town.

 

Well out of the two I'd say Csarmi sticks out more.

I still find Drew scummy, but Csarmi, you seem to be getting kind of desperate trying to save yourself, to the point, that it actually looks pretty scummy. Obviously people are going to defend themselves, but when you are getting that defensive trying not to get lynched, but haven't revealed or anything, it usually means you are Mafia.

 

Vote Csarmi

 

I addressed this already. Desperate to trying to save myself? Where, when? Makes no sense at THAT point. Well I did become a bit worried at L-1 I admit, but it was before that. I just don't see where you're coming from.

 

Sorry if I repeat myself. I've been working these days a lot (plus we had a day off yesterday with my GF) so didn't have much time to react, make thoughtful posts, think about stuff and that.

 

I do have time now, however, so I'm trying to make a coherent post :)

[csarmi]

Well I did do some readup on Player and he ads ABSOLUTELY nothing to the discussion most of the time. Actually, I've found like 2-3 posts total that I didn't quote here (back till first day).

 

Mostly nothing. Random FOS in the best case.

 

I missed the lynch. this time that wasnt my intention at all. Im so sorry guys I thought I had more time. Ill be here all guns blazing tomorrow.

Ive got my performance tonight and after that im on holiday so ill have heaps of time to get my head in gear

 

Totally. Miss the lynch by an hour. Happens, I agree, but miss ALL lynches somehow?!

 

 

I dont like pink, can we use another color?

 

*mutters angrily under his breath*

 

I missed the lynch. this time that wasnt my intention at all. Im so sorry guys I thought I had more time. Ill be here all guns blazing tomorrow.

Ive got my performance tonight and after that im on holiday so ill have heaps of time to get my head in gear

 

dont worry, this means that either you are a very cunning scum who purposefully missed lynches to look innocent, a hopeless scum playerwho keeps costing his team NK's or innocent.

 

so missing the lynches isnt a bad thing, really.

 

Blackhoof,

 

1) I don't think you should treat those three days the same in your coloring (I suppose that voting days 1/2 shouldn't be the same as voting on days 1/3, for example)

2) Show the Song/MrL change.

3) Major FOS @ me for playing the game?

If I'm the only one on all the three lynches, no wonder we didn't get a lynch today. Note how all the other five of the 'Scary Six' went for some not-very-meaningful votes. If 5 players out of 14 kind of refuse to vote (refuse to be on a lynch, rather), what are the chances to get 8 players on a lynch?

 

1) well, i suppose i could go more in depth, but that would just be confusing for everyone... even me :P

2)why? we know it happened, and Alanna didnt include it, so it isn't important enough to include, especially since everyone knows it happened.

3) no, major FOS at you for being the sole person on every lynch, and being on lynches is good for... you guessed it, the mafia! yay! :D

an interesting point you raise, csarmi. several possibilities for the mass-move away

-coincidence

-seeing their trouble, they all coordinate in their scum QT to avoid the lynch, to avoid suspicion

-seeing their trouble, they all decide independently to avoid the lynch, to avoid suspicion

 

if reason 1 or 3 is the right one, you are still suspicious as theonly one on all lynches.

if reason 2 is right, you are free.

 

unfortunately we have no way of knowing.

Ok woah. I dont like this at all. Its not a good idea to miss lynches

 

Really? Then why miss THREE?! Isn't this a little bit of contradiction there?

This, and Krak's reasoning make a lot of sense to me, actually.

 

I really hope he's scum. With friends like this, you don't need enemies. No help for the town at all and hiding all the time. I can't say I'm sold on the idea of an SK but if there IS one, he really fits the bill.

 

I think he's our best bet for now.

 

I'm not going to unvote + vote as for now I believe we shouldn't be spreading our votes even more, but I'm willing to vote him.

[CurtisScafe]

I voted Drew yesterday but I am also good with CSarmi and BG as I explained earlier I think they are the rest of the scum.

Reason for CSarmi today is because I think he is the only one left on his team

[Alanna]

Vote Count:

Csarmi (4) - Curt, Blackhoof, Meesh, BG

Talamnes (1) - AJ

Drew (1) - Talmanes

Curt (2) - Csarmi, Drew

BG (1) - Player

 

Not Voting (3): leelou, Aust, Krak

 

DEADLINE is Thursday, April 21 @ 11AM CST.

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Alanna]

Also, I need Aust to check in, please. He has not posted yet during Day 4. If he does not check in by deadline or sometime during Night 4, he will have to be replaced/modkilled.

[csarmi]

Well GN all I'll be back in the morning. (10-11 hours from now)

[bgrishinko]

We really do need to consolidate some votes here.

 

I think right now, apart from my own thoughts, we are looking at:

 

csarmi(4)

Curt(2)

Player(0)

 

I only throw player in because everyone is talking about how scummy he seems, but nobody is willing to throw a vote, which I find odd. I don't see him as being on one of the Team A or Team B, but a SK is a possibility. It is hard for me to judge him based on the inactive portion though, so I don't really think he is scum at this time.

 

Curt's coincidence claim doesn't really fly with me right now when reexamining. Sure he voted first on a few days, but that doesn't change the fact. The ordering of the votes matters not to me.

 

 

I think csarmi made a decent defense of himself above, enough to keep him in the game for now but I'm still weary. But now I'm in a predicament. Since csarmi, scum vote leader at this point, and Drew who was the popular choice yesterday are both voting Curt and again are both part of the Scary Six (or 5 now...), that looks bad on me to move over to that vote. I think this is why it is hard to get a consensus... each of us (me included) is just a little bit afraid of associating ourselves with people who were on previous lynches and the vote gets spread. Well, you know what, after last night, I'm no longer afraid. NK's will happen no matter what. If people think me voting with Drew or csarmi means I'm buddying up to them... so be it. I'm not, I'm following my instinct.Unvote: Vote Curt

[dapianoplay3r]

UNVOTE

VOTE Csarmi

 

I wont be left off another lynch. Even though Im not 100% happy with it I think its the best option and I dont think we will get another lynch

[CurtisScafe]

Hmm looks like I may be wrong about the teams but either way I got two Blacks voting on me.

Nice way to deflect

[Krakalakachkn]

I heard from Aust. He's got a nasty infection of some sort and has been knocked on his butt for the past week or so.

[Alanna]

Vote Count:

Csarmi (4) - Curt, Blackhoof, Meesh, Player

Talamnes (1) - AJ

Drew (1) - Talmanes

Curt (2) - Csarmi, Drew, bg

 

Not Voting (3): leelou, Aust, Krak

 

DEADLINE is Thursday, April 21 @ 11AM CST. That's in 11 hours.

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Krakalakachkn]

So we have 11 for a lynch. I'm going to bed, so I'm going to go ahead and vote csarmi just in case. Hopefully I can check in tomorrow morning before the lynch and see what's up, but we can't afford another no lynch.

[Blackhoof]

I thought we'd get a discussion but no one's really speaking.

Why is that?

 

 

because no-one else is on....

 

This and AT NIGHT! Very scummy, in my opinion. Town does not do casing in the night.

 

says.... who? To me, people who try to case others for 'acting scummy' when the reason they are 'acting scummy' is just a bit arbitrary are scummy.

[bgrishinko]

Aaaand... it looks like the lynch is going to head back in the csarmi direction after all. Night time comes and I we need the lynch. I could go either way as I had voted for him earlier. so... Unvote: Vote csarmi

[csarmi]

Don't cast vthe hammer please, I'll be some interesting things to say when I have some time. In 2-3 more hours.

[Talmanes]

As curious as I am, I don't know if I'll be on before the deadline again to cast a vote. I suppose I'll be able to get on for just a minute or two before then, but I'd suggest you make any case you have now, because I'm not going to have us not get a lynch on my part.

 

I'll check this on my phone later, when I wake up.

 

Honestly it probably won't matter though, I doubt we will get enough consolidation on anyone else in time at this point.

[csarmi]

I'm Katerine Alruddin.

 

As we won't consolidate on someone else this late and I don't want the game to stop: Unvote VOTE csarmi

I'd also like to restrict the number of players voting for my list. Why? Go ahead and figure it out for yourself.

 

So I might as well hammer myself. Always wanted to do that.

 

Yea and I really think that one of Curt/Blackhoof are scum.

I'm quite suspicious of Leelou based on what I know of the game setup and some events.

I think that Krak and Player might be town. Meesh too.

 

Do read the opening post by the way.

 

Anyway it's a waste to lynch me, I would have been NK'd anyway, I suppose.

[bgrishinko]

Wow. That was unexpected. Don't think I've ever seen that happen before.

[Krakalakachkn]

What?

[csarmi]

What I said. :)

 

I have to PAFO you onthe rest.

 

Máté

[Krakalakachkn]

Hammering yourself was the smartest move you could make if you are, in fact, town.

[CurtisScafe]

Seems I was right:

http://encyclopaedia-wot.org/characters/k/katerine.html