Wheel of Time Mafia Game Thread

[killuliu]

Ha! Heh. Whoops. Yeah, Adella. At least I wasn't WAY off. Apologies for being a smartass, I'm actually a dumbass, though obviously those things aren't mutually exclusive.

 

You actually got me really confused up there (until the mistake was pointed out)!

 

(I'm not quite sure if I use this correctly, but I'll try anyways) FOS @ Curt for his previous comments :)

(So could someone clarify me, does FOS mean something like that one should explain his logic, comment, etc.?)

[aemonkristen]

Not silenced. Just got distracted. I started college last week and I've spent the last coupe of days doing schoolwork. I'm back now and just about ready to drop a bombshell. I have now viewed three innocent players, none of which start with an A. Yes, Mynd was one of those three. We should not lynch Mynd...yet. There still lies the possibility of a cult or a reruiting scum team, but until we have evidence of that we should leave him along. As far as lynching an "A" name, I could go with Ahmoonda. I'm not sure what to make of the BG/Adella mason team. It's hard to know for certain what your mason partners alignment is without mod confirmation. That said, it doesn't do us any good to lynch one because the other will still be unproven. So, to recap, of the players tat are left standing I trust myself, Mynd, Red, two others I cannot name and I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to BG and Adella.

Innocent of what?

 

I am a finder. I check a person each night and find out what alignment they have. I have now viewed three people and they have all come back innocent. That is why I say I know 4 innocents (including myself) and suspect Red is innocent as well and I'm leaniong that way on BG and Adella for their mason reveal. It would not be a good idea for two scum to come out and claim mason because all it takes is one to go down for the other to get speed lynched. I am looking at it from the angle of 7 confirmed or back-burnered people. That narrows down my lynch pool quite a bit.

[Red2111]

mynd - i can go with your logic for now; i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because Aemon confirmed his veiwing was legit, but i'm still watching you.

 

aemon - thanks for clearing that up, i actually trust you more than others at the moment

 

nae - i'm still watching you, but agree that it does nothing for scum hunting right now; i lub ya too my fav SGer *stab*

 

alanna - nah wasn't a poke but good to see you *snuggles*

 

 

 

i think the deadline is tomorrow. so i'll go with Ahmoo as well to apply some pressure. half reveals stink and the whole "you'll lose another innocent" doesn't sit well with me.

[Red2111]

Curt just went up higher on my list. everyone whose been following along knows what role Aemon claimed, so your "innocent of what" questions sticks out too me.

 

 

also, while i agree with Mynds logic, i still think we shoudln't assume Vam as innocent. he is a false dragon and i' more inclined to believe Aemon is the innocent one of the two.

[Verbal32]

Not silenced. Just got distracted. I started college last week and I've spent the last coupe of days doing schoolwork. I'm back now and just about ready to drop a bombshell. I have now viewed three innocent players, none of which start with an A. Yes, Mynd was one of those three. We should not lynch Mynd...yet. There still lies the possibility of a cult or a reruiting scum team, but until we have evidence of that we should leave him along. As far as lynching an "A" name, I could go with Ahmoonda. I'm not sure what to make of the BG/Adella mason team. It's hard to know for certain what your mason partners alignment is without mod confirmation. That said, it doesn't do us any good to lynch one because the other will still be unproven. So, to recap, of the players tat are left standing I trust myself, Mynd, Red, two others I cannot name and I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to BG and Adella.

 

If they were told they are "Masons", then they are very likely to be town. Masons are normally townies. If they are simply neighbors or some other role that offers a medium of communication, then who knows. I'm leaning town for now.

 

Could we get a vote count, please?

[killuliu]

I want to vote for the first time in this game! :D So I trust Mynd's "begins with A" claim, and as you have pointed out, ahmoonda is the bes suspect. So I'm just a boring one and join the bandwagon and

 

Vote Ahmoonda

[Red2111]

unoffical Day 4 vote count (people in purple haven't checked in yet)

 

Deadline

 

With 30 alive it takes 16 to lynch. You have until Thursday at 2 PM to achieve a lynch

 

 

Vote Count

 

Vam(1): Ahmoo

Nae(1): Aust

Adella(1): Verb

Ahmoo(5): Mynd, Aemon, Alanna, Red, Killulu

 

No Vote: mcs, AJ, Ama, Krak, Kwom, TMD, key, Adella, paetric, Locke, drew, Curt, Virtuhall, Quibby, Nae, bg, trench, Vam, Deadly, player, Thorkin, Nyn

 

 

to further this, these are people i don't rememebr seeing from in the past few game days

Nyn

Krak

Kwom

TMD

Paetric

Locke

Thorkin

Deadly

 

 

out of that list, Kwom pings me the most because of his involvement in Songs findings. i find his silence since then to be scummy tbh

[WWWwombat]

Red's count is correct.

 

Vote Count

 

Vambram (1): Ahmoondah

Naeann (1): Aust

Adella (1): Verbal

Ahmoondah(5): Mynd, Aemon, Alanna, Red, killuliu

 

16 to lynch

Deadline: Thursday at 2:00 PM EST

 

[Quibby]

Ha! Heh. Whoops. Yeah, Adella. At least I wasn't WAY off. Apologies for being a smartass, I'm actually a dumbass, though obviously those things aren't mutually exclusive.

 

You actually got me really confused up there (until the mistake was pointed out)!

 

(I'm not quite sure if I use this correctly, but I'll try anyways) FOS @ Curt for his previous comments :)

(So could someone clarify me, does FOS mean something like that one should explain his logic, comment, etc.?)

 

FOS: Finger of Suspicion. Basically, it means that you think somebody had better explain themselves PDQ, or they're SOL and JWF. No, it's not a good thing.

 

Although I would like some clarification on that post as well, Curt. It read a little overly-defensive.

[Verbal32]

First: unvote

 

Second: I'm starting to want to lynch inactives. They aren't helping us reach a majority in a timely manner, nor are they contributing much to the scumhunting. In fact, many are likely holding items that they aren't using. I can understand wanting to go after somebody like Ahmoon based on Mynd's info, but I really want to consolidate the activity in this game.

 

Thoughts?

[trench]

Sorry I missed most of today.

 

But from catching up I noticed we have gotten away from Day 3 info and moved into new territory. I have trouble pushing a vote on Ahmoon. Ahmoon's last few posts were a bit scummy I admit but Im not convinced yet.

 

I think we should still be pushing a Vambram vote for his reveal Day 3. Its still the scummiest move I have seen so far.

 

Vote Vambram

[WWWwombat]

Also, Song is replacing paetric.

[trench]

First: unvote

 

Second: I'm starting to want to lynch inactives. They aren't helping us reach a majority in a timely manner, nor are they contributing much to the scumhunting. In fact, many are likely holding items that they aren't using. I can understand wanting to go after somebody like Ahmoon based on Mynd's info, but I really want to consolidate the activity in this game.

 

Thoughts?

 

Actually I am kind of interested in this. We should lynch a lurking player, just to get the others interested and active. But we have a bunch of people not posting so which one do we choose to push?

 

 

and welcome back Song.

[WWWwombat]

Vote Count

 

Vambram (2): Ahmoondah, trench

Naeann (1): Aust

Ahmoondah(5): Mynd, Aemon, Alanna, Red, killuliu

 

16 to lynch

Deadline: Thursday at 2:00 PM EST

[Quibby]

First: unvote

 

Second: I'm starting to want to lynch inactives. They aren't helping us reach a majority in a timely manner, nor are they contributing much to the scumhunting. In fact, many are likely holding items that they aren't using. I can understand wanting to go after somebody like Ahmoon based on Mynd's info, but I really want to consolidate the activity in this game.

 

Thoughts?

 

I agree, but I'd rather see them replaced first, as we'd be more likely to kill off a bunch of innocents for only a couple of scum. Doesn't seem like a good trade-off to me.

[Red2111]

i'd perfer Womby to replace the inactive than just to lynch them tbh. i agree that it's aggrevating Verb, but also, lynching inactives will most likley loose us townies rather than scum.

 

wb Song!!

[Red2111]

well Quibby, seems you and i are on the same brain wave

[Quibby]

You really don't want that.

[DrewRiley]

Just catching up, and here are my thoughts:

 

If we lynch an A name (Ahmoondah right now), we have a one-in-four-or-five shot at getting a mafia, based on Aemon and Mynd's lists of who they believe is innocent.

 

If we lynch a random lurker, we have no idea what our odds are, because their is no evidence for or against them, really.

 

I still lean towards a Vambram lynch, because he's either lying and totally scum, or telling the truth and False, and if he's false there's still an excellent chance he's scum. It seems the safest to me.

 

So I'll get behind a Vambram lynch, and I'd reluctantly get behind an Ahmoondah (though she hasn't pinged me at all) or another A lynch, but as frustrating at they are (as I've expressed), I don't want to lynch a lurker.

[WWWwombat]

Vote Count

 

Vambram (3): Ahmoondah, trench, drew

Naeann (1): Aust

Ahmoondah(5): Mynd, Aemon, Alanna, Red, killuliu

 

16 to lynch

Deadline: Thursday at 2:00 PM EST

[WWWwombat]

If Thorkin and deadlyfreind don't show up soon, I may modkill or replace them.

[CurtisScafe]

Being objective as much as I can, we can eliminate Myndrunner (for now) based on Aemon's claim for viewing me. Sure, he could be lying, I could be a Mafia Godfeather or what have you, but remember, in this instance, we are assuming that everything stated publicly is the truth. We can always check for liars later on in the game, but right now, we are only eliminating the unliklies.

 

Let's also assume (for the moment) that Vambram is innocent, otherwise it would have been foolish to claim to be the Dragon Reborn when he did considering the building lynch on Blackhoof and that Aemon has made such a claim already.

 

That leaves us with a much shorter, and much more manageable list of people to consider for lynch:

 

Amoondah

AJ (alannalynn)

Amadine

Krak

keyholder

Locke

drewoftherushes

CurtDragon

Naeann 2.0

trench

killuliu

dapianoplay3r 2.0

Nyn

 

While I think I know who the third Mason is based on his responses, I am willing to still consider a lynch on anyone above. Throw in the whole mess with a player whose name begins with A, I think Amoondah, AJ, or Amadine would be the safest bet. Thoughts now?

why are there no reasons on why these people are on the "bad" list? yet you give reasons on why people should be excluded from a lynch?

 

I am just wondering why the attention is drawn away from all the potential lynches of the previous nights.

Mynd was on the list, as was Vambram yet both are somehow cleared once the night is over

 

I have my eyes on Mynd as I see this is more of his redirection as we have seen on earlier days.

 

I find his "It has been revealed to me..." a bit odd. Just today, where have your revelations been all along?

 

Curt, those are the people left over who have nothing to support their pro-town alignment. Why are you overreacting in such a way?

So me pointing out facts is overreacting?

Ha! Heh. Whoops. Yeah, Adella. At least I wasn't WAY off. Apologies for being a smartass, I'm actually a dumbass, though obviously those things aren't mutually exclusive.

 

You actually got me really confused up there (until the mistake was pointed out)!

 

(I'm not quite sure if I use this correctly, but I'll try anyways) FOS @ Curt for his previous comments :)

(So could someone clarify me, does FOS mean something like that one should explain his logic, comment, etc.?)

 

 

mynd - i can go with your logic for now; i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because Aemon confirmed his veiwing was legit, but i'm still watching you.

 

aemon - thanks for clearing that up, i actually trust you more than others at the moment

 

nae - i'm still watching you, but agree that it does nothing for scum hunting right now; i lub ya too my fav SGer *stab*

 

alanna - nah wasn't a poke but good to see you *snuggles*

 

 

 

i think the deadline is tomorrow. so i'll go with Ahmoo as well to apply some pressure. half reveals stink and the whole "you'll lose another innocent" doesn't sit well with me.

 

 

Curt just went up higher on my list. everyone whose been following along knows what role Aemon claimed, so your "innocent of what" questions sticks out too me.

 

 

also, while i agree with Mynds logic, i still think we shoudln't assume Vam as innocent. he is a false dragon and i' more inclined to believe Aemon is the innocent one of the two.

So first you agree with me asking for clarification by thanking Aemon for clearing it up then you move me up on the list for asking. So since when is it bad to ask for clarification?

 

I'll humor you both with reasoning on my question:

Aemon says Mynd is innocent so we shouldn't lynch him "for now" If he is innocent why say we should defer a lynch rather than say we shouldn't lynch him at all?

[Quibby]

The "for now" is bet-hedging. Further information could prove that both Aemon and Mynd are leading us all along a merry path to destruction. Therefore, we watch, we wait, and for reacting incredibly defensively to a post that was meant to be more of a guide than an indictment, I vote CurtDragon.

[Myndrunner]

A couple things of note....

 

Sorry I missed most of today.

 

But from catching up I noticed we have gotten away from Day 3 info and moved into new territory. I have trouble pushing a vote on Ahmoon. Ahmoon's last few posts were a bit scummy I admit but Im not convinced yet.

 

I think we should still be pushing a Vambram vote for his reveal Day 3. Its still the scummiest move I have seen so far.

 

Vote Vambram

 

It doesn't seem like trench actually read why we are building a lynch on Ahmoon. He says he agrees that his last three posts were a bit scummy, but he's not convinced yet, and we should lynch Vambram instead. Does his post read like someone who has been following logic or someone trying to deflect votes off of Ahmoon?

 

Then a few posts later, Drew chimes in...

 

Just catching up, and here are my thoughts:

 

If we lynch an A name (Ahmoondah right now), we have a one-in-four-or-five shot at getting a mafia, based on Aemon and Mynd's lists of who they believe is innocent.

 

If we lynch a random lurker, we have no idea what our odds are, because their is no evidence for or against them, really.

 

I still lean towards a Vambram lynch, because he's either lying and totally scum, or telling the truth and False, and if he's false there's still an excellent chance he's scum. It seems the safest to me.

 

So I'll get behind a Vambram lynch, and I'd reluctantly get behind an Ahmoondah (though she hasn't pinged me at all) or another A lynch, but as frustrating at they are (as I've expressed), I don't want to lynch a lurker.

 

Drew agrees that we have a 1:4 shot at getting mafia, but he wants to go with Vambram instead? Here is the thing about Vambram. Scum would never post anything on purpose to draw attention to themselves, and that's what Vambram did. Let us also not forget that the Vambram lynch was pushed yesterday as an alternative to Blackhoof, who turned out to be scum. If I'm a betting man, and I am, there were scum on that Vambram vote who were totally ok with it.

 

I would like to hear more from Vambram on what he stands to gain by claiming to be the Dragon Reborn when we've already had such a claim.

CurtDragon flipped out when he saw his name on the list of leftovers. Quite an overreaction if you ask me.

 

And Verb, I am going to pretend to ignore your post about lynching inactives and assume you were compulsed to make such a post. That would be the worst thing the town can do right now.

[Red2111]

Curt the reason why it moved you up higher is because it sounded like you were asking Aemon how he knew those people could be innocent. therefor suggested not really paying full atention to the game and possible skimming.

 

 

if you remembered that he was Finder (as your telling us now) then why woudl you need claification by asking "innocent of what" tbh, he claimed a finding role, therefor his saying someone is innocent cause he viewed them is kinda self explanitory.

 

 

in fact, his entire post on who he veiwed as innocent and thought as innocent was self explanitory as he sited which ones he viewed nd which are just gut feelings for him.