Zoolander Mafia Game Thread (Standard Mafia)

[ed2funy]

You know, I had a dream everyone just posted "I'm here" or "I'm busy" like 10 people in a row.

*sighs and stabs whoever didn't have votes*

 

 

Well, I'm going to vote Al Jenn tomorrow, and I'm gonna try and find his partner. XD

[ed2funy]

Oh, no lynch tomorrow....maybe I should read....

That just sucks.

[Kathleen]

When it says there will be no lynch, does that include random, or does it just mean that we can't vote, and there will be a random vote, or just no one being kicked out tomorrow?

[Adella]

Awh, Charis didn't vote?! I guess she has other stuff going on, but it looks like her char had a beloved princess role, which I would say would make her town even if she wasn't Zoolander.

 

So... what is the point of having a day phase if we don't get to vote? I can see the bickering and FOSing now...

[Al Jenn Mael]

I think there will just be two nights in a row with a 'scene' for the day we are in morning.

 

Everyone posted so I say it's about 90-95% likely that Ed is who he says he is or someone is just being an oblivious idiot.

 

So now I have to think what that implies: Either he has been recruited, unlikely. His action was tampered with, more likely. Or Talmanes screwed up, unlikely.

 

9 people are alive right now.

 

 

Player List:

 

dapianoplay3r

ed2funy

The CrusherAl Jenn Mael

Kathleen

Amadine

Hybrid

Dark Justice

ClaireAlannalynn

Adella

 

AustCharis (Random Lynch Day 2)

LiathianaNight Killed Night One

Kemian(Random Lynched Day 1)

 

So by our next day there will be 7 players alive (Two nights in a row) and if we get a wrong lynch by the following day (Day 4) then 5 players will be left. So if there are still three mafia left all they have to do is get us to lynch the wrong person for Day 4.

 

I'm on vacation and so will be in and out. Hopefully the doctor is successful one of these two nights.

[Dark Justice]

In case I die in this what seems a double night:

 

1. No decent finder reveals on day 2, unless in a VERY tight corner. (Witch is why I never bothered about Ed`s "claim"

2. The first player to reveal a major pro town role in a situation where he/she is not threatened by a lynch is generally scum, he/she is most likely looking for a reveal of the REAL pro town role... (makes al and Ed look scummish to me.) (One: "I reveal (random pro town role)" and another: "reveal yourself (REAL pro town role)" players working together...

3. Hybrid is, though usually a active player, completely inactive in this one.. COULD be same reason as I dont bother checking in as often as I would when playing.. Inactivity... I still gonna hold him as suspect..

 

Apart from that, I find the lack of activity slightly disturbing. It used to be a lot more active....

[dapianoplay3r]

This just isnt our game. I hate no lynch days. Its worse than night because theres nothing anyone can do to make the phase end any faster and we are powerless to lynch anyone. I just hate being so useless.

[ed2funy]

Useless pig! *does warlord dance* :D

 

*has been watching too much Xena* >_>

 

 

Anywho Dark, if you were here longer, you'd know that the last and only time I had the Finder role (solo, I did share it in another game, but that's another story), I was forced to reveal Day 1. Oddly, it's because I couldn't post much and was being voted for no reason. I died Night 1 because the Healer failed to protect me. -_-

Now that I finally have the role again, I wanna make sure I lynch scum before I go.

 

And me and Al Jenn have this thing. :D When one is scum, the other tries to kill them, and vice versa. Since he's scum...well, it's my personally sworn duty to see him dead. :)

[Talmanes]

The sun came up, but the day was so dreary that it almost seemed night still. Hansel had left his pad minutes earlier. He was a little suspicious with all the deaths lately, but the tea took off the edge. He never heard the rustle of feet behind him. Nor the sound of a gun cocking. With a shot to the head he lay there, very still, a pool of blood growing.

 

Alannalynn: Hansel is dead.

 

Day 3 has begun. Day ends in 24 hours. (Tomorrow at 3:30 DM Server Time)

There will be no lynch today.

[alannalynn]

What IS it lately that makes me unable to stay alive!? >_> *bah*

[Kathleen]

Ok, so even though there is no Lynch today we still play through it? Can we please get some more activity here, its really hard to find Mafia with no one posting any thoughts or info.

 

Right now Ed and Al Jenn still seem really fishy to me. I can see three reasons for why the person who Ed claims to be didn't come forward, one he was telling the truth, two that character isn't in the game, or three that person is a finder of some sort or has another power role that they don't want to come out with so early in the game and make them self a target in another wise quite game. Right now the only ones with any real amount of people looking at them seem to be both Ed and Al Jenn, and while they seem to be going at each other, I don't really buy it, But thats just me.

 

Ps, in Ed's post he wrote "Anywho Dark, if you were here longer, you'd know that the last and only time I had the Finder role" but isn't he claiming he has the finder role now? so it wouldn't be the only time he has had it in the other game if he has it now. I'm seeing that as a slip up, and I don't believe he is the character he said he was, I think was trying to find someone else to come out and take the heat off of him when he was almost lynched, and I think that he was claiming the finder role to stop us from lynching him the next day. Just my thoughts, I know by saying these things I'm gonna get an earful back, but its about time we get more talking going on in here.

[ed2funy]

Yea, and notice I told you I've had the Finder role twice before. But one was shared.

Call it a "slip" if you want...I think you're just looking for a reason to not vote for scum. O_o

 

Yay talking, but quite frankly, if someone did come forward and claim EITHER my character or role, I wouldn't even have to view them, as they are in cahoots with Al Jenn.

[Kathleen]

Why does someone contradicting you absolutely mean that they are cahoots with anyone else? If they are that person they don't have to be affiliated with anyone to know who they are? That is just another reason why they may be keeping quite, so that it doesn't come out looking like they are tied to Al Jenn like they know it will look that way right now.

[Adella]

Kat, you're kind of twisting yourself up with words here. According to your theory in your big long post about Ed, if Ed is lying, then Al Jenn is probably telling the truth (unless for some reason we have scum who are on two separate teams, or a bad try at a gambit). If we assume, for arguments sake in this post, that Al Jenn is telling the truth (due to the logical course of thought) then why would it be bad to be affiliated with being on the same side as Al Jenn?

 

In summary, you are basically saying you think Ed could be lying, which would make Al innocent (in all likelyhood), but it makes sense for the finder/whatever role to not want to seem affiliated with him...? That logic is a bit screwy.

 

That is the only problem I have with your theories though, everything else I am currently in agreement with.

[Kathleen]

In my first post I said I'm not sure of Al Jenn's innocence, that it could be that the two of them are working together to look like they are opposing each other (if this is what a gambit is, then yes, that is what I'm saying is one option). That being said, right now there is Ed saying Al Jenn is mafia, and Al Jenn saying that Ed is mafia, and not too many other people picking sides. So that being the case the person who is the charactor ed claims (if its not him - which I believe is the case - and anyone in the game is)they may not want to be associated with Al Jenn for a few reasons, one is they may be thinking he is mafia with Ed, or they think he is innocent, but since so few people have picked sides it would be look bad to go against Ed and have all the townies believe him and come after the real finder thinking they protecting the real one by protecting ed. In the latter case there is no real reason to not associate with Al Jenn, but still reason to not reveal.

[Hybrid]

First off, apologies for inactivity. I've been more inactive than usual on all of DM lately - 1) schoolwork 2) don't like the new boards as much as the old ones.

 

Without a mod coroner, tactics are a little different. I had forgotten this, but better late than never.

 

- Doctor should NEVER EVER claim. This way the mafia never knows whether the doctor is dead, so they have to assume the doctor is still alive when choosing their night kill. This helps for Finder claims.

 

- Finder should counter claim. This way we know that we have one mafia bagged. Of course, the mafia could fake claim, but that leads me to my last point:

 

- With no mod coroner, we have two choices.

• Assume that in-game alignment matches movie alignment. In this case, we lynch Al Jenn first, since he's the claimed mafioso, and see what his role name is. If we can deduce that he's mafia based on his role name, we leave Ed alive and see where that leads us. We won't risk our (potential) Finder, but we will risk a mafia slipping through with a fake claim.
  
• Take nothing for granted. In this case, our only option is to lynch everyone involved in a claim, since we won't know who is mafia and who isn't. So: Lynch Al Jenn. Lynch Ed. Lynch a counter-claimant if there is one. This way we are guaranteed to get at least one mafia. In fact, we are guaranteed to get all the mafia involved in the claim/counterclaim. But we also may lose a Finder.
  

 

Option 2 is the safer route. And with better activity, I'd recommend it, since we wouldn't need the Finder. But as it is, I'm on the fence.

[dapianoplay3r]

I still maintain that both are mafia working together. Look how much this has put us all in a state of flux. I'm all for testing out Al and then Ed

[Dark Justice]

just one thing that popped into my head: Since when does a standard mafia have a condition that gives a no lynch day? last time I checked standard mafia is finder, healer, mafia and (in rare cases a miller)..

 

I like standard mafias, and thats why I signed up.

[Dark Justice]

dapiano, I agree with that order.. IF ed is who he says he is, then we dont wanna lynch him... The way to "prove it" would be lynching Al. (though there is still my idea of them working together to consider.....)

[dapianoplay3r]

Id say thats just a special exception made because this is a themed standard game. Yes there is definately the chance they are working together. I also want to see who he "views" tonight. Watching them interact might give us more insight if he finds another mafia. If he finds town then im voting Al again

[Dark Justice]

Hybrid, agree about the boards...

 

2nd option of yours works if we had a active game. That is not the case (which is why I tried to make an argument about Al`s role list in the first place.... No activity always makes town lose...)

[dapianoplay3r]

Im trying to be more active but about once every phase for an hour or so is all i can manage atm

[Adella]

In my first post I said I'm not sure of Al Jenn's innocence, that it could be that the two of them are working together to look like they are opposing each other (if this is what a gambit is, then yes, that is what I'm saying is one option). That being said, right now there is Ed saying Al Jenn is mafia, and Al Jenn saying that Ed is mafia, and not too many other people picking sides. So that being the case the person who is the charactor ed claims (if its not him - which I believe is the case - and anyone in the game is)they may not want to be associated with Al Jenn for a few reasons, one is they may be thinking he is mafia with Ed, or they think he is innocent, but since so few people have picked sides it would be look bad to go against Ed and have all the townies believe him and come after the real finder thinking they protecting the real one by protecting ed. In the latter case there is no real reason to not associate with Al Jenn, but still reason to not reveal.

I would like to point out that I was in no way calling for a reveal, so this added part seems a bit pointless in the argument. To the rest of it, well explained, I have no further argument.

[Adella]

Also, I agree with testing Ed by lynching Al, it's the only lead we have to go on with such a slow game. Thus why I voted for him in the first place. Do we even have enough active players to get a majority lynch at this point?

[Hybrid]

For what it's worth, the two night kills have been on Hansel and the PM of Malaysia, both definite good guys in the film. That makes me a little more confident that there isn't some massive twist in the alignments going on here (like Hansel's entourage being the mafia, or something). It's also possible that Talmanes just randomly picked characters for the mafia.

 

In either option, though, lynching Al Jenn is the first step. Then we can see what he flips. If it's a believable bad guy, then we can leave ed alive a little longer. If it's not completely believable, we can lynch ed too.

 

I'm leaning towards believing ed in any case, because sacrificing your teammate to vet yourself is a silly play under the circumstances. We don't have major activity, we don't have a coroner, and we haven't built up a significant amount of information. It might be an attempt to go for the glory. But in that case, lynching Al Jenn for now is still the best move.