Brandon Sanderson Adding character names

[Paerish Swar]

Firstly, I think it should be noted that the exact phrase is 'the remnant of a remnant'. Its an important distinction I think, because it changes the subject of the sentence. A remnant of a remnant is sequential, it continues on adding to the description. The remnant of a remnant separates the sentence--by which I mean it makes each remnant refer to a different thing.

 

Which is a fancy way of saying that rather than simply mean that the Aiel are gonna get nearly wiped out--that there will be only a remnant of a remnant left numbers wise, i think the phrase represents a sequence of changes within the Aiel. But that’s all esoteric gibberish.

 

The actual reality of it all is that i think the modern Aiel are already one of the remnants spoken of. Consider that the prophecy was spoken by Aes Sedai living with the Jenn, who remembered the Dai'shain and the First Covenant--still lived it, really. Modern Aiel as they are a remnant of the Dai'shain, and I think that is the first step in the chain--a fact that is added to by the fact that whoever spoke the prophecy actually used the words 'those that call themselves Aiel' indicating quite clearly that from their perspective (of which the Foretelling was spoken) modern Aiel are not actually Aiel. It's the same as the whole 'so-called Aiel' thing. . .

 

So thats my argument--or more precisely my argument is that the remnant of a remnant refers to a social change, not to great losses. Modern Aiel whose culture stems from the Dai'shain are a remnant, and the Aiel that will exist after Tarmon Gai'don will be much the same--similar to the modern Aiel, born from that culture, but different. . .

 

Not esoteric gibberish.  Right on the money, I think.

 

 

[Yorkie]

Just recently on Twitter/Facebook Brandon has said that he has recently added Andrew Sparks to ToM, the interesting part being that he isn't human. I thought this would be fun to talk about what race this person is from. I can't imagine an Ogier being named Andrew, I don't know if *Finns have names. Maybe he's a Nym, but I wanted to see what you guys thought.

 

Its the gholam, Mat is being stalked by Andrew Sparks... And Sparks will fly in the next round I bet...

 

:D

[Dreamwalker]

Just for fun, I went back through some of Brandon's tweets to pull out names and information that he's going to use.

Name                        What we know about the character

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Paul Postuma Door

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Ummmm.....like, a door? That you go through? What kind of door would require a name? Even the doorways extremely important to the the series like the red ter'angreal doorways aren't named....

 

Dude, I hope that it's the door that forms when you use a bronze knife on the ToG. That would be tight.

[Tel Janin]

Dude, I hope that it's the door that forms when you use a bronze knife on the ToG. That would be tight.

 

It could read something like this: "Mat scraped the knife across the tower and drew sparks."

 

I know, pun, lowest form of humor...

[Mr Ares]

Ifeyinwa Eboh      Aiel

Eva Snyder         Aiel

Aiel with a last name ??

 

To repeat what Maj has said about twenty times, Brandon with adjust the names to fit the story--so no Aquarius, there will be no Aiel with last names.

 

I swear if this has to be said again I'll scream. THE NAMES WILL BE WOTIFIED!

Is anyone else tempted?

[NoGuessing]

Amdrew Sparks killed Asmodean.

[Dreamwalker]

Dude, I hope that it's the door that forms when you use a bronze knife on the ToG. That would be tight.

 

It could read something like this: "Mat scraped the knife across the tower and drew sparks."

 

I know, pun, lowest form of humor...

 

Wow, that killed me. I tip my hat to your wit, good sir ;D

[Fains nose]

Maybe an Ogier named And son of Rew son of Sparks

[egwenes#1hater]

on the subject of names my real name is Ismail but is pronounced Ishmail which is obviously quite close to Ishamael, you guys think he'll be mentioned as Ishamael rather than always as Moridin?

[Charlz Guybon]

No. It would take too much story time--even with two books.

 

The Aiel Instant Army took two whole books and countless previous foreshadowing, introducing Shara on that scale and nature would be impossible given the stuff we know has to happen.

 

If anything takes two whole WOT books it's not an instant anything.

 

EDIT: Also, I'd like to note that any fighting done in the Waste will be against the Aiel of the 11 other clans that stayed behind. The Shaido probably won't even reach the Dragonwall by the time the Last Battle begins. I predict they'll run into an army of rampaging Shadowspawn. Oh so sad.

[Cirin]

Also names have equivalents in other languages as well, like Andrew becomes Anders, Peter becomes Petra, Gregory becomes Gregor, etc. so there is plenty that can be done to fantasize the names.

 

As for what language the name Narg is from, pretty sure it's from the trolloc language.  Osan'gar mentions at one point that all Myrdraal usually have trolloc names, so Shaidar Haran was unusual.

 

Just for fun, I went back through some of Brandon's tweets to pull out names and information that he's going to use.

Name                        What we know about the character

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Paul Postuma Door

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Ummmm.....like, a door? That you go through? What kind of door would require a name? Even the doorways extremely important to the the series like the red ter'angreal doorways aren't named....

 

Dude, I hope that it's the door that forms when you use a bronze knife on the ToG. That would be tight.

 

I thought this was funny.

 

"So we drew the door... now what?"

"Hello!  I"m Paul Postuma!  Welcome to the Tower of Ghenjei!  I'm here to tell you to abandon all hope, ye who enter in!"

 

 

[wotjunkie]

Could try Andra Twinkle could either pass him off as a Nym or an extremely vicious Lopar

[adrienne]

I'm so worried that during the edit the one line my name appears will be cut out :( I've been waiting 9 months looks like it'll be a year and two months for me to find out  ;D Every time I hear he's cut some material out I cringe.

[StringWinder]

In regards to all the people freaking out about andrew...and the names being wotified.

 

As you read the books and come across names...well alot of them are straight fantasy type names with no connection that I can see to our world.

 

But many of them are in the vien of RJ's usage of the concept that there are lots of leftovers from previous times, and out stories and legends and myths are all present but corrupted or altered by time.

The same thing is apparent in a lot of the names you see.

 

It seems a vvery common WOT naming convention is to take a name from our world and slighty alter it to come up with a different name.  Sometimes sounding totally unlike its source, sometimes not, but the similarities are there nonetheless.

 

 

Birgitte- Briggette; Thom - tom; Logain - Logan; Elayne - Elaine; Lews - Lewis; Elan - Allen; Siuane - SueAnne; Timolan -Timothy; Amys-Amy; Bartim, bartol, and bartu - Bartholemew; Bili- Billie; Owyn- Owen; Melaine - Melanie; Hari- Harry;

 

I haven't heard anyone on this board dissing RJ for Darl Coplins name being so obviosly Darryl, who I went to High School with. 

 

Just to be the devil's Advocate, I just looked at the encyclopedia wot, and here are some character names that already appeared in the series: Andric, Andris, Andro, Androl, and two people name ander- Ander Corl and Ander Tor.  Those first four names, keep the fisrt four letters and add "ew" and you get...Ta Da!  Andrew!  Then the other two, swith the "r" with the "e" and add a "w"...

[Fains nose]

@stringwinder, i dont know, im  pretty pissed off that Shadar Haran is so obviously named after Sharon from down the road, and Moridin is clearly named after Morice who i play tennis with on thursdays

[Fains nose]

Also RJ naming Egwene after the boiled egg i ate for breakfast was just blatant

[StringWinder]

Are you one of the people angry that Sparks is gonna get his name in the book?

 

Or...well let me say I don't understand the motive for those comments.  They don't come off as good natured.   

 

Anyhow, it seems like you don't agree, and if that's the case, give me a reason or two why.  Those comments don't really support an opposing viewpoint.  They just seem a poor attempt to shoot down mine.

 

I did not say that every name is based on something from our time. I actually said many are straight forward fantasy names.  Pehaps most are.

 

Anyhow, I would think that Shadar compares closer to "shadow" than to "sharon"

 

I'd bet other peole have noticed this or would agree. 

 

A good example would be Artur Paendrag Tanreall...king arthur was also called Arthur Pendragon sometime.  How could you dispute that High King Artur is not an allusion to Arthur Pendragon?  Seems just blatant to me.