BSG Mafia - Day 4

[Talya]

ermmm...I thought that was early on...sorry Thorum :-[

[Daetirion]

Ok lots of posts.

 

One thing to remember. This is Day 1. Realistically we still know VERY little. Info is good.

 

Not worth losing 3 innocents before this game really starts, although worth checking the call if anyone can find etc.

 

Don't get Mynd's hinting, although it seems increasingly desperate. Barm appears to have taken on the fact his behavior was scummish and toned it down, regardless worth keeping an eye on but he's certainly dropping off my radar quickly. The extra voting i have two theories on:- standard ghost vote, or extra votes depending on if people vote for them. Both have been used before, and whilst it may be a new mechanic id be willing to bet its one of those. Will keep an eye on it.

 

Ok relatively random musings but for the sake of a lynch, im sticking to Mynd. Deadline be close, folks. If there is anymore info i will consider changing ofc, but as i said, Info is the most important thing.

[Illiara]

I get the hint that Mynd is dropping, now I just need to go and read up on that.  I wish I watched BSG...

[Ireond]

how many pages.. :P

 

As for lovers..

Apollo and Starbuck,

Apollo and his wife

Starbuck and her hubby

Admiral and the President

Boomber and thingy

Chief and his wife.

 

Apollo and Chief are MARRIED??? Thanks for screwing that surprise up for me  >:(

 

Hence why I didn't list any of them at the time. 

[Thorum]

The unvote and the dsworn vote were two separate actions of mine. I thought I pushed ENTER between the two of them.

 

For all safety: [glow=red,2,300]dragonsworn[/glow]

[Hybrid]

As for your sudden claim that you are linked to 3 other people seems a little too much for me.

Really?  ::)

 

[glow=red,2,300]Mynd[/glow]

Because we don't have a real choice with the deadline approaching.  Dragonsworn is still more suspicious in my mind, but Mynd has the most votes.  Though, let it be noted that I find the 7 votes from 4 people on him to be highly suspicious. 

[Ireond]

Alright. So I understand who Mynd is claiming to be. I can even see how he can be linked to three other players, in the condition he is who he says he is. Enough, in fact, to make me cautious

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow], We can't afford to lose three innocents before day two even begins. Ill be waiting to see what everyone else decides to do.

We can afford it better than not having a lynch. It takes a chance of getting a mafia & more info away. [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

We can afford the chance we might lose three people? That's a little harsh, there, isn't it?

[Illiara]

We need information at this point more than anything.  It is also better if we get to choose who we lynch instead of the mod making a random kill at the end of the day.  I don't want to seal the coffin shut, but for the town's sake, we need to find out if Mynd was telling the truth.  I [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] and vote for [glow=red,2,300]Mynd[/glow].

 

Because you added your post while I was typing mine, Ire, I too can understand who he is claiming to be, but the number of people is what I don't agree with.  I would understand if it was one person, or even two, but to have Mynd and three other people linked to each other as lovers seems a little fishy to me.

[Verbal32]

Ok, you people vote, unvote, and then vote again like nobody's business.

 

Lia, can we get an update vote count?

[Ireond]

Ok, you people vote, unvote, and then vote again like nobody's business.

 

Lia, can we get an update vote count?

I have yet to vote, let alone unvote, thank you very much...  *shakes head*

[Hybrid]

I would understand if it was one person, or even two, but to have Mynd and three other people linked to each other as lovers seems a little fishy to me.

Because I'm pretty sure it isn't true.  Mynd was making a point about Kivam/mnwhiterose's lover claim - he admitted that to Blig.  Linking four players together so that all four die together would be weird.  Linking four players on the same team together so that all four die together would be ridiculous, especially if Kivam/mnwhiterose are telling the truth.  That's six innocents in one day/night.  We'd start Day 2 at around 7 innocents vs. 4 mafia, not counting any potential solo wins or cults out there.  The game would essentially be over in two days.

[Hybrid]

Ok, you people vote, unvote, and then vote again like nobody's business.

It's Day 1.  What did you expect would happen?    ???

[Hybrid]

*Ahem*

Really now...if what you and Kivam say are true then the mafia could win very...very soon. If Kivam, Rose, you and these 3 other people are linked to you...then 7 innocents are going down...real quick. Why say this? :-\

 

Blig, I was making a point.  Kivam suddenly announces that he is linked to MNWhiteRose and that we are supposed to put on the brakes and believe him.

 

 

[Thorum]

Alright. So I understand who Mynd is claiming to be. I can even see how he can be linked to three other players, in the condition he is who he says he is. Enough, in fact, to make me cautious

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow], We can't afford to lose three innocents before day two even begins. Ill be waiting to see what everyone else decides to do.

We can afford it better than not having a lynch. It takes a chance of getting a mafia & more info away. [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

We can afford the chance we might lose three people? That's a little harsh, there, isn't it?

 

Reread my post. We can afford better to lose three innocents, then we can not to vote someone off today.

 

This is probably it (with 9 votes for the lynch):

 

Hybrid (1): Talya

Dragonsworn (3): Illiara, Jeran, Thorum

Mynd (8): Dae, Verbal, mnwhiterose, Kivam, hybrid, illiara

Jeran (1): BligBlog

mnwhiterose (2): JLM, Mynd

 

8 and a half hours to go ...

[Myndrunner]

For crying out loud, I was trying to make a friggen point.   I am NOT linked to three other players.  I was simply making the same claim that Kivam did suddenly when we were about to lynch MNWhiteRose.  I even stated in my post "I don't believe it either."  I was trying to show how easily people believed Kivam's claim all of a sudden after MNWhiteRose was acting very fishy.  

 

I've also dropped enough scalding hot coffee hints that even people remotely aware of the show should know that I'm a good guy.  What sort of information would lynching me get us?  WHEN I turn up innocent, what will that tell us?  When you view Kivam and he gives off an innocent reading, what does that tell you?  Not much either considering that this game has multiple roles with the possibility of roles who appear innocent but are mafia.  

 

I'm also pretty sure that either dragonsworn or MNWhiteRose is the multiple voter.  Aside from me, they are the only ones who have had multiple votes on them.  Nathan Petrelli was a character in a Heroes Mafia game who would gain an extra vote for every vote placed on him.  Sound familiar?

 

We are far beyond "Day 1 randomness" here.  There is plenty of information for each of us to make our own decisions, and not follow someone like Kivam blindly into destruction.

[Myndrunner]

[glow=red,2,300]unvote [/glow]

 

[glow=red,2,300]dragonsworn[/glow]

 

This will either prove my point or not.  Also, Lia...I think JLM unvoted MNWhiteRose as well.

[mnwhiterose]

Mynd - Your hints as to your character have not gone unnoticed. However, the mod has stated not to read too much into the character names, that she used them to craft the roles. Note, she didn't say anything about the alignments.

 

So, while your character might have been human in the series, you may have been aligned with mafia for purposes of the game.

[Myndrunner]

But how likely is it that Han Solo would be mafia in a Star Wars game?  Likely enough for a lynch? 

 

Look, MNWhiteRose...you know you looked scummish.  Kivam even admitted as such, but he claims that you are innocent and that the two of you are linked.  I don't buy it, but apparently everyone else does and I'm willing to play along so that you all don't lynch an innocent (me). 

 

Dragonsworn is our best bet for info.  I suspect that he is the one with the multiple votes, but I could be wrong.  He has given us much more reason to suspect him as mafia than me. 

[Myndrunner]

Rosie, I have one question for you......can you and Kivam communicate off thread?

[Toy and Minion]

Alright, this is getting a little jumbled up.  Let's all calm down, and try to get organized.

 

First off, I believe Mynd that he was NOT actually claiming to be connected to 3 other players.  When I read it, I read it as sarcastic.  I mean, he did say (paraphrasing here) "I don't believe it either..." right after.  So, it surprised me when so many jumped onto mynd for that.  I think it's pretty obvious what he meant.

 

So, I'm going to look harder at the ones who jumped Mynd for that.  I think we'll find at least one mafia in there (even if Mynd is mafia himself).

[Toy and Minion]

Okay, so I was wrong (remember the jumbledness I talked about earlier? :P) only two people jumped Mynd for that.  Hybrid, I'm not sure of his reasons for voting Mynd. 

 

GAH!  Re-read on Day 1!

[Hybrid]

Hybrid, I'm not sure of his reasons for voting Mynd.  

I am much more suspicious of dragonsworn or mnwhiterose still.  Dragonsworn was all over the place earlier and then suddenly disappeared.  Mnwhiterose did react really strangely to Mynd.  But dragonsworn has pretty much no votes on him, and mnwhiterose is possibly connected to Kivam.  That leaves Mynd.  I'm a little leery of voting for him when multiple-voter-man has three votes on him, but I don't have much choice as it's nearing the deadline.

 

IF people are willing to lynch dragonsworn, I will happily change my vote.  But everyone kept accusing me of pushing for a lynch on him.  Which I guess I was, but that's I think he's been acting suspiciously.

[Ireond]

Fine then...

*sigh*

[glow=red,2,300]Dragonsworn[/glow]

And I'll take the blame if he's innocent.

[Myndrunner]

Ireond, no one is going to blame you for DS.  There is a lot of crap floating around, murking the waters that were once clear. 

 

I would like to ask Thorum in response to this post....

 

 

Reread my post. We can afford better to lose three innocents, then we can not to vote someone off today.

 

 

Thorum...if you agree that we can afford better to lose three innocents than to not vote someone off....then wouldn't you agree that we could afford to lose two (MNRosie and Kivam) by the same logic?

 

And I still would like to hear from MNRosie on whether or not she can communicate with Kivam off thread.  Can you, Rosie?  We already know you two are connected and in most games, connected players can often also communicate, like FDM and I in the last game. 

[Kivam]

But how likely is it that Han Solo would be mafia in a Star Wars game?  Likely enough for a lynch? 

 

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