Hollywood 1940's Mafia! Game Over!

[Dark Justice]

I agree.. She is either useless finder, or a liyng lyer.. either way, we learn something...

 

[glow=red,2,300]mnw[/glow]

[Blig Blog]

Okay, it looks like we have enough votes on MN. *sits and waits for Leelou to return*  :-\

[Dark Justice]

jup. Didnt reallice I was the hammer...

[Blig Blog]

Actually, CUBA was the hammer. 

[Leelou]

Angry, glaring eyes all turned to mnwhiterose.

 

"Guys, I swear I'm the finder, I don't know what is wrong with my viewing," she said.

 

"Well we don't believe you, you are a lying liar who lies," everyone chimed.

 

Backed into a corner, mnwhiterose was lynched.

 

mnwhiterose, the Private Investigator (cop), is dead.

 

It is now Night. You have until Monday 5 pm EST to have all actions in.

 

Final Vote Count:

 

MN (6): Nae, Peace, Wes, Blig, CUBA, DJ

[Dark Justice]

so.. Im saying we lynch WES in the morning.... and keep an eye on nea aswell...

 

[Blig Blog]

Well it looks like MN was telling the truth. We might have lost a useless innocent finder but we gained some info. We know that she was telling the truth about being the Finder and that she only viewed two people: Wes and Verbal. Verbal is gone and MN told us that she found him to be Mafia...when he appears to be innocent. Now...Verbal could have been Mafia and the mod isn't telling us the alignments so that we would start assuming...thus assuming that Verbal was Innocent as his role is usually an innocent role. If that's so then we might have just lost a usefull Finder and Wes is really mafia. DPR was found to be Mafia...and we don't really know if that's true or not. Mnwhiterose seemed to be either insane, paranoid or random in her findings...or she could have been getting correct readings and we just assumed that Verbal was innocent...

 

Now, who's left:

 

Me, Nae, Peace, DPR, CUBA, DJ, and Hybrid.

 

I say we keep an eye on Peace and Wes. DJ, why keep an eye on Nae? O.e 

 

 

 

 

 

[DPR]

 

 

Let's not forget that MN's viewings were all wrong. I don't know what the deal is with her role, but she obviously attracted enough suspicion to be lynched, so don't go fitting a noose around my neck just yet.

 

So far, we have pretty much established that we have no idea what the roles mean - everybody has "seemed" innocent except for Jeran, who was intentionally labeled "treacherous". But we don't know for certain that Jeran was mafia - and we don't know for certain that Verbal was not.

 

I've said this the entire game - we have to PLAY BY THE EVIDENCE. We can't afford to be misled by role titles or assumptions.

 

Let's regroup and see what we can put together.

 

Clue #1: In Leelou's death scene, MN says {quote]  I don't know what is wrong with my viewing {/quote]

 

So I think it is fair to assume that MN was a fiinder, but that she was a flawed finder - which supports me calling her out as a fake. It does not support the people (Verbal and Peace) that supported her. they went against evidence and supported faulty findings.

 

Clue # 2: Leelou labeled MN -

mnwhiterose, the Private Investigator (cop), is dead.

 

Is she a Private Investigator of a Cop? They can't be the same - and I think that this is the key to her viewings - she was conflicted, which means she could have been paranoid or insane.

 

I'm going to re-read posts and see what I can see. It would be a really, really good time for everyone else to do the same. I'm guessing that we have one more day before endgame unless we hit a mafia.

 

 

[DPR]

 

Or a Cop, not of a Cop - damn - got to revise before posting :p

[Blig Blog]

Let's not forget that MN's viewings were all wrong.

 

I think you're subtly trying to reinforce that you're innocent. And why say that and then go on to say this:

 

But we don't know for certain that Jeran was mafia - and we don't know for certain that Verbal was not.

 

If we don't know that Verbal was Innocent or Mafia, like I said, then that contradicts the first qoute in this post.

 

 

It does not support the people (Verbal and Peace) that supported her. they went against evidence and supported faulty findings.

 

They were supporting a possible Finder. Why not? After everything that was said, everyone was SURE that MN was Mafia but look what happened: She turned out to actually be the real deal. Paroid, Insane or Regular she turned out to really be the Finder. And even if she didn't turn out to be so we still didn't know if she was the Finder or not after her reveal, so why chance it? You were against her even before anyone even thought about her being an Insane or Paranoid Finder which is very scummy.

 

Earlier in the game I heard someone say that DPR usually didn't survive past the first Day unless he was Mafia.

 

I agree with DJ on lynching Wes in the morning.    

 

 

 

 

 

[DPR]

 

Think what you like, and vote for who you want - but i stand by my points. You didn't vote for MN because I talked you into it. You voted for her becuase she was shadey.

 

And stop trying to convince people that she was the real deal - we have no idea what was going on there.

 

Stick with the facts and don't make up different versions of what might have happened.

 

We are still alive, which is good. We are just going to have to work a littl eherder than usual to spot the mafia. Let's not help them with specualtion disguised as fact.

[CUBAREY]

I think are primary suspects have to be DPR and Peace. A case can be made that either is Mafia. They definately have both acted a bit scumily. My problem is I really do not know which looks more guilty. I would like to here from other players why they believe one or the other is the more likely Mafia. I will hold my vote until I here from all other players.

[Hybrid]

Earlier in the game I heard someone say that DPR usually didn't survive past the first Day unless he was Mafia.  

Whoa now, let's not get caught in this sort of WIFOM logic.  If we're going to lynch DPR next day, let's lynch him because MN said she found him as mafia or because you thought he was acting scummy.

[Hybrid]

>_<

That last sentence doesn't make much sense with the changing pronouns.  I meant that if we end up lynching DPR tomorrow, we should lynch him for the right reasons.

[mnwhiterose]

ah well - I'm dead.  Just going to watch the game now....

[Naeann]

My observations, (what i do when i'm mafia) when someone claims healer or finder... you look at the first ones that support them 500 percent.  Mafia will do that, (as I said, I have when mafia) to show support for the finder and in the hopes of avoiding being suspicious enough to get viewed.  That makes me look at good ole Peace over there.

[Leelou]

Too afraid to even close your eyes, you huddle against the wall all night. Breathing a sigh of relief as the sun started to rise, something wet drips onto your hand. Looking up, you see Naeann impaled on a piece of jagged metal in the catwalks.

 

Naeann, the Personal Security (guard), is dead.

 

It is now Day. With 6 alive it takes 4 for a majority. Day will end Wednesday at 7 am EST or if a majority is reached first.

[Dark Justice]

Is guard a healer?

*goes off to check mafiascum...

 

[glow=red,2,300]WES[/glow] Im gonna go for that one. mnw saw you scum, she was finder...

[Dark Justice]

The Guard, a role that can accompany the Beloved Princess, knows the identity of the Beloved Princess and works during the daytime to prevent her death. Depending on the case, the Guard can also recieve as a night power a set number of protections to use on the Princess, an automatic protection, or an automatic protection that also results in the Guard's death.

 

The Guard's win condition is to have the Princess alive at the end of the game, but the role also works when his win condition is that of a standard Townie.

 

Retrieved from "http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Guard"

 

so... not the healer.. good...

[Naeann]

Goodluck all.  Great game.  :-*

[Leelou]

Unfortunately, you counted your blessing too soon. 3 hooded figures stepped out from the shadows. Laughing, Wes, CUBA, and Hybrid remove their hoods and stare at DJ, Peace and Blig.  The power is cut and screams can be heard...end scene.

 

The Stunt Doubles(mafia) Wes, CUBA, Hybrid and Jeran, have won.

 

Naean won her Solo Win condition, DJ, the Celebrity (Princess), being alive to end game.

 

Will get up all roles and actions later.

[Naeann]

I knew I'd do a facepalm at the end of this game.  Dpr got lucky in how badly MN flubbed up the finder stuff.  No worries hun you were new to it.

 

As long as the healer is alive... if you've got a mafia TELL IT IMMEDIATELY!!!!!  Expecially if it's Dpr, Kivam, Barm, Alys, Danya, or Far.  Remember those names.  The healer could have protected you and you'd have had more success being believed.  Even without Dpr's "help" I didn't believe for one second you were a proper finder.  Especially not after you told us two different stories as to what you got on the person. (alignment alone vs. roles too)

 

 

Good job Hybrid.. didn't suspect you for a minute... Didn't really suspect Cub either... At the most I thought Symp for him. 

[Leelou]

Innocent Roles:

 

cosmicpanda

SFX Master (Bulletproof)

 

You can only die during the day phase, you have immunity to night kills. You are aligned with the townies (innocent).

 

Sarayne

Lover

 

Your lover is Jeran, if they die, you die. You may NOT communicate with anyone outside of the game thread. You are aligned with the townies (innocent).

 

Talya

Production Design Manager (Jack-of-all-trades)

 

Each night you can use a night ability: finding, healing, reporting, starting rumors. PM me one of the actions, after it is used up, it will no longer be available to you. You are aligned with the townies (innocent).

 

mnwhiterose

Private Investigator (cop)

 

The Cop can investigate a player each night and find out whether they are innocent or mafia. You are aligned with the townies (innocent).

 

Nynaeve/peacesells

Set Medic (Doctor)

 

Each night, the Doctor chooses one player to protect during the night from a night kill. You are aligned with the townies (innocent).

 

Dark Justice

Celebrity (princess)

 

The Celebrity is a normal Townie, but when you die, the next day phase is skipped (because everyone is at your funeral).

 

Naeann

Personal Security (guard)

 

Dark Justice is the Celebrity (princess) (he does not know about you). It is your job to protect him by any means possible from a lynch during the day. During the night phase, you have the option to protect the Celebrity. You must pm this night action to work. In order for you to win a solo win, the Celebrity must be alive at end game. You are aligned with the townies (innocent).

 

mcs0083

Reporter

 

The Reporter can check a player's house to find out if they are home (anyone doing something during the night is not home). You are aligned with the townies(innocent).

 

Liathiana

Writer (psychopath)

 

Psychopath is a type of Serial Killer that can be "cured" (turned into a Townie) by the Psychiatrist. You have the option to kill one player per night. You are aligned with the townies (innocent).

 

Verbal32

Director (psychiatrist)

 

Every night, you pm me the name of one person. If you find the Psychopath (serial killer), then the Psychopath is cured and becomes a regular Townie. If the Psychopath is cured or dies, then you become an ordinary Doctor. You are aligned with the townies(innocent).

 

Blig Blog

Star-struck fan (fool)

 

You can only vote for a player that you ask for their autograph and have no reasoning to your vote. You are aligned with the innocents.

 

Mafia Roles:

 

CUBAREY

Star Stunt double (mafia) (godfather)

 

If investigated by the cop, you will show up innocent.

 

Hybrid

Stunt double (Framer)

 

The Framer may choose to frame a player during the night. If that player is investigated by a Cop, they will turn up guilty.

 

Wes

Stunt double (Strongman)

 

The Strongman is a member of the Mafia which bypasses the Bulletproof Townie. (Only used once)

 

Jeran

Stunt double (treacherous lover)

 

Your lover is Sarayne, if they die you die. You may not communicate with Sarayne outside of the game thread.

 

[Jeran]

Good job Stunt Doubles!  I only wish I was actually able to play.

 

Not that I'm complaining, but I was surprised that the game ended at 3-3 with the provision for a random lynch in the event of no majority.

[peacesells]

Why did MN see Verbal as mafia?