twisted stone ring - another ying yang symbol?

[Neemo]

sorry if i'm slow but i just noticed this....i found this on wikipedia which states its an ancient variant of the traditional ying yang symbol

 

 

twisted stone ring pic from the books

[anthony draco]

Nice find. This is very interesting. I've also recall that both looks like elemental Water sign in Legacy of Kain: Defiance too. They could be both from this sign you've found.

 

I'm not sure if it's based on that Yin-Yang symbol or not. It definitely looks similar. But I know for sure that the ring is a Ring of Mobieus. When you create a ring and you join two ends of a band together, instead of joining it normally, you twist an end half a round then join. You get Mobieus ring. The ring will have only one surface. And I think it signifies the oneness of both reality.

[Shard]

I thought there were at least three colors in the twisted stone ring. Blue-Brown-Red

[anthony draco]

I recall that too. I think the symbol in the book means Tel'aran'rhiod, not the ring itself.

[Neemo]

i thought the ring had f;ecks of red blue and brown or something...anywya i took it to mean it was made from some kind of granite  :-\

 

But I know for sure that the ring is a Ring of Mobieus. When you create a ring and you join two ends of a band together, instead of joining it normally, you twist an end half a round then join. You get Mobieus ring. The ring will have only one surface. And I think it signifies the oneness of both reality.

 

cool i wanna see what this thing is supposed to look like, i could never picture it

[Neemo]

now look what i found :)

 

[Mr Ares]

cool i wanna see what this thing is supposed to look like, i could never picture it

Mobius strip.

[mb]

The ying-yang symbol actually has a sinuous line instead of a spiral.

 

Like this::

 

Chapter-icon version::

 

[Neemo]

its actually "yin" yang  :-*

 

and yes i know what it traditionally looks like, what i did was look online to see if the way that its drawn in the books is how it is normally represented, so i looked up "yin yang" online and got this

 

For information about (and other uses of) the symbol , see Taijitu.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ying_Yang

 

 

anyway the black "Dragon Fang" on the Left and white "Tear Drop of Tar Valon" on the right, and most times its not that way but a mirror image like you've posted above...either that or turned -90 degrees and the black is on the lower half...which is fine, i only looked cuz i was curious...in any case, to make a long story short, when i clicked the link i came across this definition

 

Taijitu (a Chinese word that translates roughly as 'diagram of ultimate power') is a term which refers to any of the Chinese symbols for the concept of yin and yang, and is sometimes extended to similar geometric patterns used historically by various cultures. The most recognized form is composed of two semi-circular teardrop-shaped curves of different colors, or a circle separated by an S-shaped line, where each half is marked with a dot in the opposite (or different) color.

 

what was a surprise to me was further down the page it has a gallery with different variations of Taijitu .... under the picture i posted above it said this

 

Ancient form of the Taijitu, as used by Lai Zhide

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taijitu

 

so then i looked up Lai Zhide

 

and it had this to say

 

Lái Zhī-Dé was a Ming period Neo-Confucian philosopher. He introduced into Chinese philosophy the well-known "Yin and Yang symbol", the taijitu (a "diagram of the great ultimate"), variations of which had already made their appearance in the Roman Notitia Dignitatum from 430 AD.[1][2][3] Lai Zhide is the author of an I Ching commentary, the Explanation of the Classic of Change Annotated by Mr Lai (ed. Zheng Can 1988).

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lai_Zhide

 

and low and behold there is that twisted stone ring again...just thought it was cool and that i'd share, cuz i had never realized before the origins of that symbol  :)

[water_seeker]

in any case, to make a long story short,

 

Too late...lol jk

[Mr Ares]

its actually "yin" yang  :-*

 

so i looked up "yin yang" online and got this

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ying_Yang

In case anyone missed it before. You looked up yin yang, and got a link entitled ying yang.

[Neemo]

^ Touché  ;D

[RubberDucky]

its actually "yin" yang  :-*

 

so i looked up "yin yang" online and got this

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ying_Yang

In case anyone missed it before. You looked up yin yang, and got a link entitled ying yang.

Which is unfortunately false also. Can't trust wikipedia all the time. Anyway, I'm Chinese myself, and speak fluent Mandarin and Cantonese. Yin, in Mandarin, is pronounced without the g at the end. Just Yin. Even pronouncing the word in Cantonese, there is no g at the end. I have no idea how the g popped up.

[arkinia]

It was them damn Americans! Ying yang just sounds more catchy!

[Mr Ares]

its actually "yin" yang  :-*

 

so i looked up "yin yang" online and got this

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ying_Yang

In case anyone missed it before. You looked up yin yang, and got a link entitled ying yang.

Which is unfortunately false also. Can't trust wikipedia all the time.

If you follow the link, the page is entitled yin and yang, it's just the link that says ying. Which was amusing, coming as it did right after being told that it was yin.