Civil War Mafia: The Abolitionists Are Coming! Game Over!

[DPR]

 

I was wondering why you were so mad about it. 

[loki redfern]

fine fine [glow=red,2,300]wes[/glow]

 

ok i see it as our best chance and i realy didnt think id actually have to explain it.

 

ok assuming that the dude isnt a wonky finder and wes has the normal bomb role;

 

SENARIO 1, wes is mafia, the dude is evil.

 

we lynch wes, dude has the last vote

 

out come:

wes dead - mafia (only had the roles the dude saw, like on kivam)

the dude alive - innocent (innocent and finderproved)

jelly lynched next day - mafia (viewed by finder)

 

 

SENARIO 2 wes is innocent, dude is mafia

 

wes dead - innocent (bomb)

the dude dead - mafia (killed by bomb)

jelly alive - probabal innocnet##

 

 

see so either way we should get an mafia, and we should have a good enough  buffer of innocents to cope.so basically win win

[loki redfern]

i think dae is proably evil two but ..it doesnt give us anyinformation what soever if he isnt, and fromyou wes that doesnt make sence. i kinda feel  bad about this, but even  if you are innocent i feel you are the best way to go on this, and not these little niggles  like if wes were innocent surely hewould see that this is the best way to go. its the most likely lynch to get a mafia, and yes i have changed my tune form finding dude in a lie, but there is other more recent evidence like the 'healer' reveal.

 

though actually yes lute, who did you heal night three (thats the night just past right? this is day 4?)

[SBoydW]

Seriously... you people be believe luthine?  She's practically been hold a "I love the dude" sign for past... bunch of pages. I think that there are still 3 mafia left... remember that the only true mafia we have gotten was sirayn... Kivam was a turn coat.  4 mafia with the possibility of a 5th  at the start isn't to much of a stretch... the dude, Dae, and Luthine are all mafia I'd be willing to lay money on it.  Every time the dude has come close to alynch one of them has come to his rescue. Dae with not voting for him originally, then only voting for him once called on why he hadn't, and then luthine pulled the healer stunt...

 

My vote stays on the dude

[loki redfern]

why would they all come out .. especially lute, they might as well just cut there losses

[DPR]

I would love to think that she was faking along with Dude, but we have no counter reveal. Luthine and Dae have followed Dude around like groupies, that is true. it's a big part of why I feel good about the Dae lynch. That and I've never seen anyone change their vote so many times.

 

And I agree with your numbers.

 

And Loki, I know it's me saying this, but are you sure you don't have tunnel vision?  I feel a little silly for getting wrapped up in a corral situation like this, but it is totally a technique that mafia have used before to wipe out innocents. And with all humility, I'm thinking that I'm an innocent that they would love to see dead.

[loki redfern]

third times a charm?, ok so explain to me how the tyre lynch is good ..theres a possiblity that he might be an innocent right?  unless hes the dudes lover or something

[SBoydW]

why would they all come out .. especially lute, they might as well just cut there losses

 

Poor play? I don't know, we've seen the dude already slip up once, and dae is on the block for tommorow most likely. That's two down in fast fashion... leaving just luthine... I would like to think that with a (after night kills) 1:6 mafia to innocent ratio the innocents would win...

 

This is a last ditch effort, and a very good one at that... but not believable in the least to me.

 

[loki redfern]

:( but that ud just be too easy. lets lynch leelou just for fun and see what we get ;D

mmm now i want a subway

[DPR]

 

heh - I gotta get away from this for a while. I'll leave my vote where it is, but I'm happy to see some fresh perspective as well.  And the whole time, I just keep thinking that its a giant set-up and that we are all going to facepalm when its over. ;D

[SBoydW]

I've been face palming this whole game...DOH!

[Barmacral]

Vote Count:

 

Wes (4): blig, luthine, Leelou, Loki

the Dude (2): Jelly, Soybomb

Jelly (1): Dae

Daetirion (1): Wes

 

btw, none of you are ever allowed to post ever again. I had to go back too many pages to get this vote count. Anyone who posts in this game after this post gets modkilled.

 

Oh and, we're nearing on 1100 posts. Have fun!

[Naeann]

heh.. Too tempting... *posts*

[Barmacral]

A hand shot out of the ground, and a corpse quickly follows, the skeletal figure that could only be Naeann heaves herself out of the hole she had been buried in, and stands up.

 

Suddenly, without warning, Abraham Lincoln starts firing at her with an AK-47, driving her backwards and riddling her with bullet holes. One of the bullets gets lucky and smashes into her skull, shattering it completely. The corpse drops to the ground, lifeless as it was when she was buried.

"And stay dead, Damn you!" Lincoln bellowed, before leaving. Everyone looks on curiously at the scene, a little weirded out by what had just gone on, and thoroughly confused as to how a gun could fire without a pan and powder, let alone at faster than 3 rounds per minute.

 

Naeann, an already dead player, is still dead. It is still day, keep in mind that I make good on my threats. Some of the time.

[Daetirion]

To clarify the four people i posted were those whom if we do lynch any of them, we will get the information to unlock this. I don't recommend lynching an unchallenged healer claim, but lynching any of those 4 would finish this debacle.

 

Im extremely suspicious of those wanting to lynch outside of these 4 - we need to sort this out sooner rather than later, in the hope of having a large enough buffer of innocents to absorb and ill effect. Callous as that sound, i'd like to deal with it here, rather than later towards endgame when its lynch-right-or-lose

 

As seeing my i thought fairly sensible suggestion of Jelly has fallen apart, i'll go back to DPR.

[glow=red,2,300]

Unvote Jelly[/glow]

 

[glow=red,2,300]DPR[/glow]

 

And im still trying to work out the logic of lynching me.... i've been supporting theDude before today?! Anyways, im off to an exam in an hour - back about 2pm GMT

[DPR]

 

....So I'm trying to figure out what exactly is going on here, and a few things hit me.

 

We have a deadline coming up - Sunday morning - and the player with the most votes onthem will die. I have repeatedly warned against this as an evil technique, but here we are. Which Dude and Dae know full well, hence their actions

 

It also became plain that I have been cut off from presenting any more theories. That was a nice trick, and well done, evils. Despite my having been very clear the entire game about what was fact vs. theory (in blue), I have been accused of not being clear. When I present a theory I have always preceded it with "This is a theory - it is intended to get the creative juices flowing and I fully understand that part if not all may not turn out to be true". But to me, at least putting something out there gives us a better chance than not. Trying is better than dying. And there is certainly something going on, we just have no idea what.

 

Here's my short list of where I think everyone probably stands:

 

Dude - Mafia, or some kind of solo role. It's posible he's innocent, but no one forgets how the finder role works, so there is that big 'ol lie to deal with. I gave him a chance to be reasonable and he chose to try and bury me instead. Bad, bad.

 

Dae - Mafia. He has flipped more times than a pancake at the Waffle House. I don't know that he has made a valid point the entire game. And he covers his faulty reasoning with excuses.

 

Luthine - Suspicious. She was doing great in the evidence department until she decided to follow Dude around. Now she's the healer but won't explain what happened lat night. Not damning, but not great.

 

Jelly - Innocent. And I'll be the first in line to slap myself if she has really pulled off a day 2 false finder reveal that could never support itself. She has not played like a mafia would, and i can't see Kivam and Sirayn setting her up like that.

 

Loki - Innocent. Despite carrying a torch for replaced players and having a weird feeling about me, I don't think he's evil. Of course, this is how I lost the last game.....but I don't see it.

 

Verbal - Innocent Actually, for being new, I find Verbal to be catching on fast. He supports his points and tries to make as much sense as he can. And he did not get bamboozled by the whole "Dude is a liar, but that's OK!" thing

 

Soy - Innocent. Another player that is not falling for mafia foolishness. When I get lynched, I think Soy is your best bet to see you through this thing.

 

Blig - Who knows. I have no problem speculating on replaced players, and I stand by my earlier assessment. bcx broke the rules, and the mods had to make a choice. Doesn't make him evil, but it's worth keeping an eye on.

 

Leelou - Innocent. Probably. You've had a gun to my head for most of the game, and I'm still not sure why, but that doesn't make you evil. At least you have not lied about anything.

 

May - Unsure. I thought she was innocent, but now we have a problem with her claim. She has not been able to produce proof since she claimed it. And yesterday, when everybody else voted, would have been the time to do it. But instead, she laid low. Was she out, or did she log on? I don't know.

 

That's it.  In an effort to preserve myself, I'll [glow=red,2,300]unvote Dae[/glow] and [glow=red,2,300]vote Dude[/glow]. I can also appreciate the irony that I will get caught up in the trap that I have warned about from the start. The evil team should probably get an extra point for that one...

 

I'll be in and out, but happy to answer questions about anything should they come up.

[Luthine]

Just to let you know I'm back but I'll catch up on the reading later, seeing as I just woke up I'd ilke to breakfast first ;)

[Daetirion]

I don't know that he has made a valid point the entire game. And he covers his faulty reasoning with excuses.

 

 

Nice to know im well regarded aint it. Unfortunately far too addicted to Mafia to drop it over petty personal attacks

[Daetirion]

As someone's just pointed out to me ( ::)) the preceding post could have done with this smiley :-

 

;)

 

I swear im going to have to add them onto the end of every post by me soon enough

 

 

[Luthine]

Roses! Dude, je t'aime aussi :-* I would never have truly suspected DPR until it was too late if it wasn't for you. And don't worry about the night, I revealed to make sure we would have one much needed last viewing. Considering how everyone's been acting, we'd have to drop an A-bomb on us all if we were to lynch suspicious people.

 

Luthine and Dae have followed Dude around like groupies, that is true. it's a big part of why I feel good about the Dae lynch. That and I've never seen anyone change their vote so many times.

 

Except for you? According to your posts, the dude, Dae and I alternated between Mafia and innocent faster than one can say flooder, and I can't understand why hasn't anyone called you out on it.

 

*sends her bra to the dude*

 

Anyhow, my dearest DPR, you are definitively my role model for Mafia player.

 

why would they all come out .. especially lute, they might as well just cut there losses

 

Poor play?

Oh plz, you should be grateful to your savior, not insult her intelligence. At least if you picture me Mafia, picture me as an intelligent one ;)

And yes, that means it's you I protected last night.

I though it'd be obvious that I'd successfully protected another innocent coz yes, I am that good :P )

*hopes her gloating doesn't gets her lynched*

I was hoping to withhold this info a bit longer but bah, since you've proven yourself a pain in the (and I'm saying this with all the kindness in my heart  :-* )

This is also for the people who have been pestering me about me refusing to explain last night's no-kill while I wasn't around *cough* bad faith *cough*

 

Vote count

Wes (5): blig, luthine, Leelou, Loki, Dae

the Dude (3): Jelly, Soybomb, DPR

 

Not voting: Verbal, May, dude

[loki redfern]

you protected ..er ... boyo? ..me? ..wes? ..er your self?..someone? is that? *is confused*

[loki redfern]

[glow=red,2,300]loki[/glow]

 

continuing to post after their one alloted "darn you got me/good luck post".  This is not tolerated. offending post will be deleted and the violator will be suspended for two games.

 

hehe lynch me, lynch me, i wish to be contrary  ;D

[Daetirion]

*thwaps Loki*

 

We all ready know your contrary  ::)

[loki redfern]

iawn, youll vote me then :)

[loki redfern]

fi? attention seeking? ..well yes the seeking is nice, the attention not so, but meh, you think that a personal attach on a mod is worse than on a normal dm mebers, like saying um oh the mr soy boyo character is an arse