Some thoughts....

[SwordGuard]

Ok i was reading the series again and i found a little piece of info very mysterious. When Egwene and Nynaeve are talking about the men they love Moiraine says that "She probably knows the face of the man that she will marry better then each of you know the face of the man you love". Now later when Mat finds out that he has to bring a another man with him into the Tower on the Shadow coast. I'm thinking that extra man might be the men Moiraine is talking about....any thoughts on this? :)

[trakand_01]

As you said you were reading the series AGAIN, i'll assume i'm not going to spoil anything for you.

 

It's generally understood that Thom Merrilin is the man that Moiraine will marry. This stems from their growing fondness, POVs on both sides, and the letter which Moiraine leaves for Thom when she goes through the gateway with Lanfear. We get to read this in book 11 and whilst I havent got there yet, I understand it intimates that she has affections for him and wants him to rescue her from the Tower of Genjei.

[SwordGuard]

ehh I'm not so sure Tom has a grudge agansit Aes Sedai for kill his nephew so I don't think so.....but hell id make a huge plot twist  ;D

[trakand_01]

He despises Reds for killing Owein, surely, but I think he sees the human in Moiraine.

 

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[SwordGuard]

no im a Vet from awhile back left to join military....Im on leave right now so im gonna be around  ;)

[Corbett]

I'm in the military to so good for you. Anyway I'm pretty sure that Thom is pretty much in love or very very FOND od Moiriane. Also The Tower of Genji is in Andor. It was first spoke on by Bale Domon in TEotW when it could be seen from the river when Thom Rand and Matt were fleeing from trollocs. Also it is believed fairly widely that the third man, Noal Charin, is Jain Farstrider. He says that he is his cousin but it seems that he says this because he is very unproud of some of the things he has done and doesnt weant to be connected with them.

[SwordGuard]

Ya that is one but the one Mat is going to is in the Shadow coast....its in book 11. The one in Ador must be the entrance to the other side cause there r Afflein and Efflien (sp?) ;D

[Kadere]

No, Mat's going to the one in Andor because that's the Tower of Ghenji. Noal mentions in KoD that he thinks the tower is on the Shadow Coast, but he's wrong, it's in Andor.

[Majsju]

No, Mat's going to the one in Andor because that's the Tower of Ghenji. Noal mentions in KoD that he thinks the tower is on the Shadow Coast, but he's wrong, it's in Andor.

 

Indeed. Noal has never actually seen the tower, so he is making sa claim based on what he has heard. And considering that the tower stopped being a common knowledge about a thousand years ago, no wonder the stories he has heard are a bit off.

[Naudran Grimnir]

Either that, or he's purposefully trying to misdirect them. (If he is in fact being used by the dark as a few people believe).

[SwordGuard]

Oh well I'm saying its in the shadow coast and since its the only really big part of the map they haven;t been to yet I'm leaning towards that.... :-\

[Kadere]

Just reread the part in EotW where they sail past it, the part in TSR where Perrin goes to it and Briggete talks tells him it's the Tower of Ghenji, and the part in KoD where Mat remembers having seen it and tells everyone exactly where it is.

[Kaznen]

Dang, I was just about to say the same thing.

[SwordGuard]

No when Perrin dreams to see that Tower its in the mountains near The Two Rivers, Slayer escaped into there thats when Brigete (sp? ;)) enters and Jumper doesn't see her

[Kadere]

Perrin starts in the Mountains of Mist and then heads east to the Sand hills and spots Slayer. Slayer runs farther to the East past the Two Rivers and Perrin follows, he keeps heading east and runs into the Tower of Ghenji, exactly where Mat and Rand saw it in EotW, in Andor.

[SwordGuard]

Whatever I think its the Shadow coast ok? I'm not looking for an argument  ;D

[Generic Aelfinn #2]

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except that its been proven you're wrong...

[SwordGuard]

dude let it go ok?

:D

[Kadere]

The problem is this is a clear cut issue with rock hard evidence in the text showing exactly the location of the Tower being in Andor. It's not a theory open to speculation. Your theory that it's on the Shadow Coast ignores all the facts.

[SwordGuard]

Will you apologize if I'm right? ;)

[Kadere]

I won't apologize because I'm not wrong. It's in Andor. Seriously, just reread the parts in EotW, TSR, and KoD. It's specifies, DIRECTLY, that it's in Andor. And in AMoL when Mat goes to enter it, he'll travel to Andor to do so.

 

Another time, when the eastward shore had become flat grassland again, broken only occasionally by thickets, the sun glinted off something in the distance. "What can that be?" Rand wondered aloud. "It looks like metal."

 

Captain Domon was walking by, and he paused, squinting toward the glint. "It do be metal," he said. His words still ran together, but Rand had come to understand without having to puzzle it out. "A tower of metal. I have seen it close up, and I know. River traders use it as a marker. We be ten days from Whitebridge at the rate we go."

 

"A metal tower?" Rand said, and Mat, sitting cross-legged with his back against a barrel, roused from his brooding to listen.

 

The captin nodded. "Aye. Shining steel, by the look and feel of it, but no a spot of rust. Two hundred feet high, it be, as big around as a house, with no a mark on it and never an opening to be found."

 

"I'll beat there's treasure inside," Mat said.

 

-Chapter 24: Flight Down the Arinelle, The Eye of the World

 

His prey ran ahead of him in strides that covered miles, never more than barely in sight. Out of the hills and across the tangled Westwood with its wide-scattered farms, over cleared farmland, a quilt of hedged fields and small thickets, and past Watch Hill. It was odd to see the thatched village houses covering the hill with no people in the streets, and farmhouses standing as if abandoned. But he kept his eye on he man fleeing ahead of him. He had become so used to this pursuit that he felt no surprise when one leaping stride put him down on the south bank of the River Taren and the next amid barren hills without trees or grass. North and east he ran, over streams and roads and villages and rivers, intent only on the man ahead. The land grew flat and grassy, broken by scattered thickets, without any sign of man. Then something glittered ahead, sparkling in the sun, a tower of metal. His quarry sped straight for it, and vanished. Two leaps brought Perrin there as well.

 

Two hundred feet the tower rose, and forty thick, gleaming like burnished steel. It might as well have been a solid column of metal. Perrin walked around it twice without seeing an opening, not so much as a crack, not even a mark on the smooth, sheer wall. The smell hung here, though, that cold, inhuman stink. The trail ended here. The man-if he was-had gone inside somehow. He only had to find the way to follow.

 

-Chapter 28: To the Tower of Ghenjei, The Shadow Rising

 

What ailed him was his memory, and not the other men's memories for once. Those had been stuffed into him to fill holes in his own memories, which they did and more, or so it seemed. He certainly remembered many and more days than he had lived. But whole stretches of his own life were lost to him, and others were like moth-riddled blankets or shadowy and dim. He had only spotty memories of fleeing Shadar Logoth, and very vague recollections of escaping on Domon's rivership, but one thing seen on that voyage stood out. A tower shining like burnished steel. Sick up? His stomach wanted to empty itslef.

 

"I think I know where the tower is, Thom. Rather, Domon knows. But I can't go with you. The Eelfinn will know I'm coming, maybe the Aelfinn, too. Burn me, they might already know about this letter, because I read it. They might know every word we've said. You can't trust them. They'll take advantage if they can, and if they know you're coming they'll be planning to do just that. They'll skin you and make harnesses for themselves from your hide." His memories of them were all his own, but they were more than enough to suppport the judgment.

 

-Chapter 10, A Village in Shiota, Knife of Dreams

 

 

[Dashiva]

lol. nah i think its in the Shadow Coast. I got a hunch.  :P j/k

[bRANDan]

LMAO, nice one Dashiva. :D