Mordeth - The Eye of the World

[The Lost One]

I have started another re-read of the series and I was confused at something that happened in The Eye of the World.

 

When they go into Shadar Logoth for the first time and Mordeth lures Matr, Rand and Perin down to help him carry the treasure out.....at the point you think Mordeth is going to attack he screams and starts yelling about how they are all dead...and then runs away. 

 

What happened?  Why didn't he get them?  and why did he run away? and what did he mean about them being dead?

 

 

[RobertAlexWillis]

What happened?  Why didn't he get them?  and why did he run away?

 

Two possible reasons come to mind.  One, with three ta'veren together, very unlikely things are bound to happen.  His fear of the Aes Sedai with them might have overcome his anger, unlikely as that seems, or he might have sensed Rand's ability to channel, or the link between them and Moiraine from their Tar Valon marks.

 

what did he mean about them being dead?

 

He was just shouting threats.  He was apparently scared ... by something.

[Dragon21]

I had similar thoughts as Robert.

Maybe too, he was just thinking they would each take away some of the treasure, thus eventually killing them, like it was with Mat.

I dunno.  :)

[Guest leebarr]

At that time Rand could only cannel whem afraid so I agree with robert that he felt rands link.

[Darth_Andrea]

Rj confirmed some time ago that Rand was one of the heroes bound to the wheel and the horn, I don't know if perhaps anyone ever asked about Mat and Perrin. If they all are maybe thats what Mordeth ment, he felt their souls and knew them and screamed because he was faceing dead men reborn.

 

 

 

[glow=green,1,500]Darth_Andrea[/glow]

 

 

 

 

 

[Majsju]

I think it is quite possible that Mordeth, being a ghost and all, simpl,y could not actually hurt them in a physical way. So he ran off and hoped mashadar would do the job.

[Kadere]

I figure he was pissed they'd lied too him about how many people were in their party and where they were going, and then putting Tar Valon with the Aes Sedai witches knew they had some power behind them. Because he's so screwed up and took such offense at being decieved by these vessals he wished to consume (as he later did Padan) he sent Mashadar after them.

[Great Lord of the Dark]

I dont think Mordeth controls Mashadar...he can live with it though. The people made Mashadar so how could Mordeth control it?

[dyring]

Rj confirmed some time ago that Rand was one of the heroes bound to the wheel and the horn, I don't know if perhaps anyone ever asked about Mat and Perrin. If they all are maybe thats what Mordeth ment, he felt their souls and knew them and screamed because he was faceing dead men reborn.

 

 

 

[glow=green,1,500]Darth_Andrea[/glow]

 

He did? where?

 

Seem to recall quite a discussion on that subject, and it basically ending with both sides deciding that they were right but neither ahving any definite proof.

 

 

 

[Darth_Andrea]

Rj confirmed some time ago that Rand was one of the heroes bound to the wheel and the horn, I don't know if perhaps anyone ever asked about Mat and Perrin. If they all are maybe thats what Mordeth ment, he felt their souls and knew them and screamed because he was faceing dead men reborn.

 

 

 

[glow=green,1,500]Darth_Andrea[/glow]

 

He did? where?

 

Seem to recall quite a discussion on that subject, and it basically ending with both sides deciding that they were right but neither ahving any definite proof.

 

 

Q: "Is this soul born in any other age, or only at the advent and (theoretically, of course) the closing of the Third Age, as The Dragon/TDR?"

A: This soul is one of the Heroes, and bound to the Wheel, spun out as the Pattern wills.  "It" is born in other ages, but in a non-Dragon incarnation, to suit the pattern of that Age.  In the course of this answer, he related this to why Hawkwing calls Rand "Lews Therin" at Falme--because Hawkwing recognizes this Soul.  This didn't really tell me why he specifically calls him "LTT", but apparently they've been hangin' together in T'A'R and the etiquette there is to call each other by the name of your last incarnation.  (My interpretation.)

 

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/stargate/8513/creator-horn.htm

 

 

Stolen from one of Majsju's posts here. http://forums.dragonmount.com/index.php/topic,25775.0.html

 

 

 

[glow=green,1,500]Darth_Andrea[/glow]

[rck]

you're all looking for a deeper meaning in something quite simple.  he knew it was almost night and that mashadar would be coming out soon.  he figured that it would kill them the same way it would anyone.  also, i'm guessing that it could probably harm him as well, which is why he went to hide.

[professorskar]

you're all looking for a deeper meaning in something quite simple. 

 

Sounds like most of the posts around here  ;D

[rck]

so true

[RobertAlexWillis]

you're all looking for a deeper meaning in something quite simple.

 

Don't say that!!!  You'll stifle the conversation!!!  ;D

[rck]

Don't say that!!!  You'll stifle the conversation!!! 

 

I was answering the question and FYI douche bag this isn't a chat forum, you don't have converstations.  Why don't you just leave Dragonmount and head over to Myspace or Facebook

[Shendare]

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Did you have a -really- bad day today?

[Majsju]

Ahem...

Personal attacks are not allowed here. Behave.

[The Lost One]

Back to the topic - I think we have all discovered in reading the books over and over, that RJ gives us clues and other little hints that we did not pick up on in our first reading.  That is the main reason I read the series over and over.  I pick up on things that I missed.  There usually is a reason behind odd things that happen, and you guys help me figure out why - or you already know why and tell me.