Camp Dreadfall Mafia Game -- GAME OVER -- MAFIA WIN!

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Ed - semi-cleared by Tephs death. 

Turin - if lying would have to have holstered or tried to kill me. 

 

Tigs - if lying would have to have holstered or tried to kill me or Turin.

 

DPR - if lying holstered to pretend he had blocked NK from me or Dice, or tried to kill Turin. If he has double vote that could convince people he is lock clear. If he has an assassination that can be 4 townies dead in one night and he knows Turin is the commuter. 

 

Dice - if lying was blocked. Don't really think he is mafia, but I didn't really think Sinister was either, definitely a candidate, really not sure if him hammering Darthe should clear or implicate him. I think clear as why not let the goon go to the wall for town cred? Feel very uncertain of my thoughts on him thanks to my 0% chance of the wolf team being SD and Dice prediction. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

4 dead townies in one D/N cycle I mean. 

[DPR]

16 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Ed - semi-cleared by Tephs death. 

Turin - if lying would have to have holstered or tried to kill me. 

 

Tigs - if lying would have to have holstered or tried to kill me or Turin.

 

DPR - if lying holstered to pretend he had blocked NK from me or Dice, or tried to kill Turin. If he has double vote that could convince people he is lock clear. If he has an assassination that can be 4 townies dead in one night and he knows Turin is the commuter. 

 

Dice - if lying was blocked. Don't really think he is mafia, but I didn't really think Sinister was either, definitely a candidate, really not sure if him hammering Darthe should clear or implicate him. I think clear as why not let the goon go to the wall for town cred? Feel very uncertain of my thoughts on him thanks to my 0% chance of the wolf team being SD and Dice prediction. 

 You realize that ed reported shooting SD before end of night, right? 

 

And WTF is this 4x assasination role? I get that you’re new, but that’s not even a thing.

 

You’re going so far out of your way to avoid the obvious and discredit me. I mean, I get it from a mafia-trying-to-survive perspective, but man are there better ways to have played this. 
 

But all in good time 

[ed2funy]

25 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Ed - semi-cleared by Tephs death. 

Turin - if lying would have to have holstered or tried to kill me. 

 

Tigs - if lying would have to have holstered or tried to kill me or Turin.

 

DPR - if lying holstered to pretend he had blocked NK from me or Dice, or tried to kill Turin. If he has double vote that could convince people he is lock clear. If he has an assassination that can be 4 townies dead in one night and he knows Turin is the commuter. 

 

Dice - if lying was blocked. Don't really think he is mafia, but I didn't really think Sinister was either, definitely a candidate, really not sure if him hammering Darthe should clear or implicate him. I think clear as why not let the goon go to the wall for town cred? Feel very uncertain of my thoughts on him thanks to my 0% chance of the wolf team being SD and Dice prediction. 

why am I cleared by Teph’d death and

not SD…?

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

 You realize that ed reported shooting SD before end of night, right? 

And we are 100% certain that Ed didn't NK Sinister? Seems unlikely yes, but am I pushing for Ed's elimination? No I'm saying he is to all intents and purposes lock clear. 

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

And WTF is this 4x assasination role? I get that you’re new, but that’s not even a thing.

I don't like this misrep. One elimination, one Vig shot, one NK, and one assassination like Gud had on Hamilton so she could kill DPR and Key in one night. So that would be Ed, Tigs, Dice and me dead in that scenario. 

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

You’re going so far out of your way to avoid the obvious and discredit me. I mean, I get it from a mafia-trying-to-survive perspective, but man are there better ways to have played this. 
 

But all in good time 

I'm simply trying to cover all the bases. Kill me first if you like and see my flip, but as I'm town that will already put town at a disadvantage. But if town is sure that it is me or Dice then fine we have already won. 

 

You are sounding an awful lot like Darthe now. I'm just sussing you because I'm a bad player. Are you going to offer to hydra with me too? 

 

I don't how likely it is you are this mastermind, but even you can see how deeply you are involved at every point in your "obvious" conclusion. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Remember Turin also was sussing DPR. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

10 minutes ago, ed2funy said:

why am I cleared by Teph’d death and

not SD…?

Because we don't know how you killed SD. But if you aren't the Vig then we have no explanation of how Teph died, so it isn't just a case of your lying or your not, if you were lying another game point would need an explanation. 

[DPR]

3 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Because we don't know how you killed SD. But if you aren't the Vig then we have no explanation of how Teph died, so it isn't just a case of your lying or your not, if you were lying another game point would need an explanation. 

Heavy, you gotta work this out in your head, man - If a Mafia false claims Vig, it only works if the Mafia team has a double kill. Otherwise, when morning comes and there’s only 1 NK, the claim is blown. 
 

Also, Mafia tend to not NK themselves. 
 

ed is the Vig

 

 

[DPR]

12 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Remember Turin also was sussing DPR. 

Turin has sussed everyone in the game. He’s not famous for clearing, if you know what I mean. 

[DPR]

I honestly think this is the first time I’ve ever seen someone accuse a player of being Mafia and NK’ing another Mafia. 

[DPR]

17 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

And we are 100% certain that Ed didn't NK Sinister? Seems unlikely yes, but am I pushing for Ed's elimination? No I'm saying he is to all intents and purposes lock clear. 

I don't like this misrep. One elimination, one Vig shot, one NK, and one assassination like Gud had on Hamilton so she could kill DPR and Key in one night. So that would be Ed, Tigs, Dice and me dead in that scenario. 

I'm simply trying to cover all the bases. Kill me first if you like and see my flip, but as I'm town that will already put town at a disadvantage. But if town is sure that it is me or Dice then fine we have already won. 

 

You are sounding an awful lot like Darthe now. I'm just sussing you because I'm a bad player. Are you going to offer to hydra with me too? 

 

I don't how likely it is you are this mastermind, but even you can see how deeply you are involved at every point in your "obvious" conclusion. 

Yep. 100% sure Mafia didn’t NK Mafia. Check

 

You said “assassination” and you’re still throwing in an extra kill for lulz. There’s a thing people around here say about fear mongering. Dunno how you worked out your dead-list lol
 

I’ve been clear that I think you’re a very good player. Darthe started to appeal to emotion which got him deaded lol. I also said that patronizing you was a nasty move, which is a major reason I think you two were in it together. I don’t see him risking that if you went in cahoots. 
 

I’m the most involved because my roles are in the spotlight. I claimed RB and JK and sure enough, we had no NK. 
 

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

I'm not accusing, I'm going through all the possibilities. Why are trying to ignore the possibilities and spending all this time on the least likely possibility? Almost as if you are trying to distract people from something. 

 

People need to be aware of much is riding on you telling the truth, no one else is in the same position. Weird that you are getting so defensive about this and trying to make a big deal about Ed. Misrepping the "4 player assassination". Attacking me. 

 

I'm just looking at things from every angle. Strange how you of all people are so against that. Trying to sell a narrative perhaps? 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

1 minute ago, DPR said:

I’m the most involved because my roles are in the spotlight. I claimed RB and JK and sure enough, we had no NK. 

Yes, so you are the only player who could have holstered and it make any sense at all as mafia. There is a synergy with you as mafia there isn't anywhere else. That bears scrutiny. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Quote

Mafia 1 x silent Assassin.

Here is Gud's role. So she could NK and assassinate in one night. So it is not beyond possibility that this role is also in this game in some form. So if we miseliminate and misvig, the mafia could conceivably win before dawn. Especially after you made such a big deal of Town claiming roles so you knew if there were any obstacles to NAs. Again this pretty much only applies to you. 

 

Strange that you have repeatedly denied this. 

[DPR]

10 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I'm not accusing, I'm going through all the possibilities. Why are trying to ignore the possibilities and spending all this time on the least likely possibility? Almost as if you are trying to distract people from something. 

 

People need to be aware of much is riding on you telling the truth, no one else is in the same position. Weird that you are getting so defensive about this and trying to make a big deal about Ed. Misrepping the "4 player assassination". Attacking me. 

 

I'm just looking at things from every angle. Strange how you of all people are so against that. Trying to sell a narrative perhaps? 

Pretty sure this the worst post yet lol

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

1 minute ago, DPR said:

Pretty sure this the worst post yet lol

So you realise your reaction was too strong? What not just say but all this seems rather unlikely, why misrep and attack, when all I'm talking about is possibilities?

 

Methinks the lady doth protest too much. 

[DPR]

10 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Yes, so you are the only player who could have holstered and it make any sense at all as mafia. There is a synergy with you as mafia there isn't anywhere else. That bears scrutiny. 

There. Was. No. Holster. 
 

If I was Mafia with an extra kill, I would have killed somebody, no? 
 

Lol, there would have been 3 deaths last night and we’d be sitting at  1 Mafia vs 3 Town right now. 
 

Instead, I claimed RB and JK and we had 1 death from the Town Vig

 

That’s the most likely scenario lol

[Tigraine]

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

I honestly think this is the first time I’ve ever seen someone accuse a player of being Mafia and NK’ing another Mafia. 

 

Would definitely be one for the books.  

 

As I've said, I feel slightly better about dice since SD turned out to be a goon in comparison to Darthe's role.

 

It still really nags at me that Turin handled his claimed role like he did.  I don't understand how, at that time, it benefited town.  

 

Heavy, man I've felt good about you all game but the good feeling is starting to dwindle.  

 

I agree that Ed is vig.  

 

 

@DPR, you said you Roleblocked Dice right? And used the JK on Heavy so that would keep any of his actions from working but also keep any from working on him?  I just want to make sure I'm clear on those things and how they work. Fwiw, I believe DPR's claim.

 

Our options for the lack of NK are that

 

the mafia holstered which is highly unlikely 

 

mafia!Dice submitted the NK 

 

Heavy was targeted

 

Heavy submitted the NK

 

Or scum didn't believe Turin and targeted him which I also find unlikely.

 

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade What is it that makes you doubt DPR's claim and Ed's? Do you have the same reservations about Turin?  

 

@Turin Turambar and @dicetosser1

where do you all stand on believing the claims of everyone so far?

 

Turin, what made you announce for the doc not to protect you?  I know you can argue "well so they could protect someone else" but I honestly dont think and I don't think you thought there was any danger in that (maybe I'm wrong)

 

i want simple words for my simple mind.  Yes I believe, no I don't not believe.

 

@ed2funy what's it looking like from the cheap seats? 

 

 

[DPR]

3 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

So you realise your reaction was too strong? What not just say but all this seems rather unlikely, why misrep and attack, when all I'm talking about is possibilities?

 

Methinks the lady doth protest too much. 

I was wrong. This is the worst post

[DPR]

3 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

 

Would definitely be one for the books.  

 

As I've said, I feel slightly better about dice since SD turned out to be a goon in comparison to Darthe's role.

 

It still really nags at me that Turin handled his claimed role like he did.  I don't understand how, at that time, it benefited town.  

 

Heavy, man I've felt good about you all game but the good feeling is starting to dwindle.  

 

I agree that Ed is vig.  

 

 

@DPR, you said you Roleblocked Dice right? And used the JK on Heavy so that would keep any of his actions from working but also keep any from working on him?  I just want to make sure I'm clear on those things and how they work. Fwiw, I believe DPR's claim.

 

Our options for the lack of NK are that

 

the mafia holstered which is highly unlikely 

 

mafia!Dice submitted the NK 

 

Heavy was targeted

 

Heavy submitted the NK

 

Or scum didn't believe Turin and targeted him which I also find unlikely.

 

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade What is it that makes you doubt DPR's claim and Ed's? Do you have the same reservations about Turin?  

 

@Turin Turambar and @dicetosser1

where do you all stand on believing the claims of everyone so far?

 

Turin, what made you announce for the doc not to protect you?  I know you can argue "well so they could protect someone else" but I honestly dont think and I don't think you thought there was any danger in that (maybe I'm wrong)

 

i want simple words for my simple mind.  Yes I believe, no I don't not believe.

 

@ed2funy what's it looking like from the cheap seats? 

 

 

Yes, I RB’d dice & JK’d Heavy. Jail Keep prevents any action from coming or going. 

[Tigraine]

On 5/13/2025 at 11:01 AM, keyholder21 said:

Players:

1. @HeavyHalfMoonBlade

2. Tephulis - Vanilla Townie - Killed N1

3. @DPR

4. Darthe - Mafia Bus Driver, 50% Chance Success - Lynched D2

5. Peacesells - Vanilla Townie - Lynched D1
6.@Tigraine

7. @Turin Turambar

8. Gabriel Kross - Camp Cop - Killed N1

9. @ed2funy

10. @dicetosser1

11. Sinister Death - Mafia Goon - Killed N2

 

 

Are we really thinking that 5 out of 8 townies have or had abilities?

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

5 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade What is it that makes you doubt DPR's claim and Ed's? Do you have the same reservations about Turin?  

I went through everyone and looked at what were the implications of them being the last wolf. Turin is unlikely as he either holstered when he had no reason to or targeted me. DPR did have a reason to holster so he could pretend he blocked the only two possible wolves. But it is only through his claim that we are the only two possible wolves. And it is more likely that he would have tried to kill Turin than Turin kill me. 

 

I'm only looking at the possibilities. Why not just kill me and Dice right now if that is what you are all so certain of and you don't want to talk about what might have happened? Why else spend time in this day? 

[Tigraine]

19 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Why not just kill me and Dice right now if that is what you are all so certain of and you don't want to talk about what might have happened? Why else spend time in this day? 

Because I'm not trying to lynch just anyone.  I'm trying to look at the possibilities too, the ones least likely to most likely.  I just don't see any benefit of holstering.  Maybe it's above my head I just do not see it.

 

So I'm working through those possibilities and asking questions to get as close as possible to the truth.  This game looked bleak after D1 and N1.  But the tables have turned so I want to continue down that path.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Right I'm not saying this is likely, only possible. 

 

DPR says he blocked two people that didn't have any relevant NAs (I sadly investigated Turin so I would have gotten no result regardless of DPR). He holsters and the claims the blocking must have stopped the NK. So me or Dice must be the wolf. Town kills us both, DPR has a role where he can NK and kill another townie. Everyone but Turin dies, mafia wins. 

 

I'm only saying this is a possibility. I don't like DPR's claim. All those abilities, can use 2 at a time. Tomorrow he can show his double vote, but even if he cannot kill townies tonight having 2 votes isn't proof he is town. And it matters not what he promises about tomorrow if we are all dead by then. 

 

It is a stretch, undeniably. But why then has his response been so strong? Pretty much if he is not lying we will win by killing me and Dice. No one else has the opportunity and motive to set this up, as far as I can see. 

 

Not much more I can say. I don't mind dying for a town victory, I am just making sure that you guys are looking at all the possibilities and not just the ones that DPR is telling you are most likely. 

[ed2funy]

1 hour ago, Tigraine said:

 

@ed2funy what's it looking like from the cheap seats? 

 

 

 

I’m tired of dragging this out lmao I vote we lynch heavy now and just move forward. I’m very confident in him being mafia at this point. But if not, we still win so I’m not worried