Camp Dreadfall Mafia Game -- GAME OVER -- MAFIA WIN!

[ed2funy]

49 minutes ago, DPR said:

Nope - I had an RB and a JK. Still have an investigate and a double vote

Okay so Tigs wasn’t paying attention. Damn hicks 

[Turin Turambar]

Okay, I'm gonna write down my current thoughts, even the crazy ones about all of this.

 

@Tigraine, has been less than active in thread but RL has exploded. Not a fan if the lack of voting. Nothing claimed. No actions listed as taken against her.

@ed2funy, claimed vig. Appears to have shot SD who was mafia. Also didn't vote D2 and had a bad vote on D1 imo.

@dicetosser1, claimed VT. DPR claimed to block him. I don't like his EoD voting history. Pushed some similar lines at me as SD.

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade, claimed VT (became 1x informant) I'm doubting that claim. I think he slipped by insinuating I was the nk target twice. Was very weirdly pushing back about Dice being mafia during the night,.like he knew he was town. DPR Claims to have jailkeeped him, which means he could be the killer or the target. 

@DPR, claimed JOAT (RB,JK,DOUBLE VOTE,COP) claimed RB Dice, AND JK Heavy. Not sure I believe that. My understanding of the role is only 1 action per night. I'm not sure here.

Turin, town Commuter.

 

My problem is no ones actions confirm their claims. Nor prevent anyone else's.

Tig claimed nothing so no information. 

Dice claimed VT but was blocked.

Heavy claims a cop on me but was jailed.

DPR claims both the above actions but nothing conclusive because SD was unblocked and could have been the one to submit the kill.

Ed apparently shot SD. Could he have done it as mafia? It is nearly inconceivable. 

I don't think I was the target unless they thought I was lying. Possible. 

 

The easiest solution is that either Dice or Heavy were the killer since they would be the roled player. Only expose one person to potential RB. But DPR successfully blocked it.

Secondary is whoever submitted (SD or Tig or DPR) shot at me and failed.

Crazy theory is Ed shot SD for cred.

 

Tigraine,  I need your claim, even if it's VT.

 

[Turin Turambar]

Ed or DPR should have been the target. That points to Dice or Heavy. 

The holster theory points to Tigraine or DPR. 

Someone shooting me points to Tig, DPR, or SD. 

 

I'm gonna go to bed. This is hurting my head.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

If you are a commuter, then that means I wasn't necessarily jailed. I said unless someone was protecting you (from investigation) but if you can self protect, that would work too. If Dice is vanilla town, no need to block him... So are we at only DPR's word for it that he did these things? But how would he know everyone's roles? 

 

This is crazy. 

 

So that would only work if DPR tried to kill Turin. Does that make sense? Bah, I hate this game, lol

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

This is all @keyholder21's fault. I was thinking the mafia would be trying to outdo Ithi but no, that isn't the issue at all, lol. 

[dicetosser1]

Right so OP says town has 2-5 roles right?

 

we’ve had claimed

 

cop

vig

joat 

1x informant and now

commuter

 

and me with vanilla

 

on the mafia said there’s been a 50% bus driver and a goon

 

something doesn’t add up here. 

im not sure I believe town has 5 of a possible 5 roles and that’s 2/3s of the mafia team and that’s all they have?

 

im really struggling with Turin and heavy’s claims

 

i thought Turin was bluffing a mirror but either way it’s a role that can’t really be proven especially once the cops dead.

 

catch is, and I don’t know if mine was a variation or not, when I had commuter I was told nothing could stop it so from that i assume he can’t be jailed or rb’d

 

 

then heavy, AFTER the cop is dead and with the mod knowing what roles are in the game gets gifted a view?  Wtf?

 

can someone run the numbers? Where are we if we mislynch today?

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

From mafiascum, commuter is the ultimate hiding thing. As they are not there they cannot be role locked or juggernauted or anything. 

 

All I can say for certainty is I was blocked or Turin was protected (from investigation). The rest, I don't know. But the mafia were obviously disrupted. Holstering seems unlikely. 

 

This feels like it should be really straight forward. Going to bed. 

[DPR]

Where did Turin claim Commuter? 

[DPR]

How did y’all f this up so bad?!  I was only gone a little while ffs

[DPR]

1 hour ago, Turin Turambar said:

Okay, I'm gonna write down my current thoughts, even the crazy ones about all of this.

 

@Tigraine, has been less than active in thread but RL has exploded. Not a fan if the lack of voting. Nothing claimed. No actions listed as taken against her.

@ed2funy, claimed vig. Appears to have shot SD who was mafia. Also didn't vote D2 and had a bad vote on D1 imo.

@dicetosser1, claimed VT. DPR claimed to block him. I don't like his EoD voting history. Pushed some similar lines at me as SD.

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade, claimed VT (became 1x informant) I'm doubting that claim. I think he slipped by insinuating I was the nk target twice. Was very weirdly pushing back about Dice being mafia during the night,.like he knew he was town. DPR Claims to have jailkeeped him, which means he could be the killer or the target. 

@DPR, claimed JOAT (RB,JK,DOUBLE VOTE,COP) claimed RB Dice, AND JK Heavy. Not sure I believe that. My understanding of the role is only 1 action per night. I'm not sure here.

Turin, town Commuter.

 

My problem is no ones actions confirm their claims. Nor prevent anyone else's.

Tig claimed nothing so no information. 

Dice claimed VT but was blocked.

Heavy claims a cop on me but was jailed.

DPR claims both the above actions but nothing conclusive because SD was unblocked and could have been the one to submit the kill.

Ed apparently shot SD. Could he have done it as mafia? It is nearly inconceivable. 

I don't think I was the target unless they thought I was lying. Possible. 

 

The easiest solution is that either Dice or Heavy were the killer since they would be the roled player. Only expose one person to potential RB. But DPR successfully blocked it.

Secondary is whoever submitted (SD or Tig or DPR) shot at me and failed.

Crazy theory is Ed shot SD for cred.

 

Tigraine,  I need your claim, even if it's VT.

 

Nvm - found it

[dicetosser1]

47 minutes ago, DPR said:

How did y’all f this up so bad?!  I was only gone a little while ffs

you left us unsupervised….

[dicetosser1]

I’m really tempted to go heavy here.  
 

a) he could be scum

b)he proves or disproves dpr

 

@DPR how are the numbers here? Can we survive a mislynch and a nk?

 

unvote

[DPR]

If I’m reading this correctly, the new theory is: 

 

Heavy, the D1 VT turned D2 1x Informant targeted Turin, the newly revealed Commuter and came up with nothing, because Commuter. 
 

Not a 1x or every-other-night Commuter, but a full time, no night action will work on him ever Commuter

 

And the Mafia, now supposedly me, holstered my NK after I made a fairly elaborate claim that is easily verified (double vote tomorrow anyone?) so that I could fool everyone, and do what? 
 

It’s currently 5 Town to 1 Mafia. It seems doubtful Mafia is gonna pass on a NK to reach that number and hope for a comeback…

 

dice is the last Mafia. I feel bad for him - the last three games have been brutal as far as randing roles goes (at least he got 1 win out of them) but the situation is exactly what it looks like. 
 

He was the obvious Mafia to block and I had an extra role, so I went with Heavy, my tinfoil, based mostly on Darthe’s behavior. 
 

But don’t listen to me - go back and reread Darthe and SD and form your own conclusions. 

 

 

 

[DPR]

1 minute ago, dicetosser1 said:

I’m really tempted to go heavy here.  
 

a) he could be scum

b)he proves or disproves dpr

 

@DPR how are the numbers here? Can we survive a mislynch and a nk?

 

unvote

6 players - 5 Town to 1 Mafia

 

We can mislynch and suffer a NK to make it 3  Town to 1 Mafia, but the next day would be MyLo, plus/minus extra roles on either side 

 

The evidence points to you my friend - I am truly sorry.

[ed2funy]

1 hour ago, dicetosser1 said:

Right so OP says town has 2-5 roles right?

 

we’ve had claimed

 

cop

vig

joat 

1x informant and now

commuter

 

and me with vanilla

 

on the mafia said there’s been a 50% bus driver and a goon

 

something doesn’t add up here. 

im not sure I believe town has 5 of a possible 5 roles and that’s 2/3s of the mafia team and that’s all they have?

 

im really struggling with Turin and heavy’s claims

 

i thought Turin was bluffing a mirror but either way it’s a role that can’t really be proven especially once the cops dead.

 

catch is, and I don’t know if mine was a variation or not, when I had commuter I was told nothing could stop it so from that i assume he can’t be jailed or rb’d

 

 

then heavy, AFTER the cop is dead and with the mod knowing what roles are in the game gets gifted a view?  Wtf?

 

can someone run the numbers? Where are we if we mislynch today?

SD was a goon. Doubt there are five PRs when mafia would only have two? 
 

[dicetosser1]

I’m not mafia ffs!

 

you being mafia is my tinfoil nightmare

 

i dont trust turins claim as far as I can kick it

 

problem is. Lynching heavy Proves your town or not. But then we are stuck between is it tig or turin 

[dicetosser1]

3 minutes ago, DPR said:

6 players - 5 Town to 1 Mafia

 

We can mislynch and suffer a NK to make it 3  Town to 1 Mafia, but the next day would be MyLo, plus/minus extra roles on either side 

 

The evidence points to you my friend - I am truly sorry.

your evidence is wrong dpr.  How about actually listening to me and giving me some benefit of the doubt for once? 

 

[dicetosser1]

3 minutes ago, ed2funy said:

SD was a goon. Doubt there are five PRs when mafia would only have two? 
 

I agree 

[ed2funy]

I doubt Heavy’s claim the most. If he was a 1x informant after the cop died, he should have been told up front. I just can’t see bastard modding like that. 
 

I say we vote heavy and if he doesn’t flip scum, I join the tinfoil with dice on DPR. Because SD was a goon, a JOAT could very well be good to help balance on the mafia’s side. Especially using more than 1 action in a phase….. 

 

DPR, do us a double favor and double vote now. Not wait to use it at potential lylo. If you hold until lylo, I’ll be more convinced you’re scum 

 

unvote

[ed2funy]

Unvote

[ed2funy]

I’m spiraling lmao

[dicetosser1]

Question @DPR once you invoke double vote it lasts the whole phase yeah? 

[ed2funy]

11 minutes ago, ed2funy said:

SD was a goon. Doubt there are five PRs when mafia would only have two? 
 

Based on this with DPR’s NAs, I’m back to dice or heavy. 

[dicetosser1]

1 minute ago, ed2funy said:

I’m spiraling lmao

im on a plane.   I may need a parachute due to this game…

[dicetosser1]

Just now, ed2funy said:

Based on this with DPR’s NAs, I’m back to dice or heavy. 

why is tig not in consideration at all?