Camp Dreadfall Mafia Game -- GAME OVER -- MAFIA WIN!

[Darthe]

I am locked tf in.  Make sure y’all read the time stamps, the scramble is real.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

2 minutes ago, Darthe said:

^ there’s the coaching at play, gg Heavy.  Happy to hydra with you and get you there as town in a future game dude.

 

vote: heavy

Lol, thank you dude. Really means a lot to me. 

 

I don't think this covers up your frustration and total tonal change just because I "pushed" you. I struggle really to call it even that. 

 

So, if I'm right it will be really interesting to see who follows Darthe on my train. 

[Darthe]

Just now, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Lol, thank you dude. Really means a lot to me. 

 

I don't think this covers up your frustration and total tonal change just because I "pushed" you. I struggle really to call it even that. 

 

So, if I'm right it will be really interesting to see who follows Darthe on my train. 

Not knowing me is to your detriment here.  
 

tell ya what, let’s play a game.  Circling back to before, envision a world where I flip and am town.  What’s your reads list then?

 

 Same q if I’m a wolf.

 

 Will go forward once those get resolved.

[DPR]

10 minutes ago, Darthe said:

^ there’s the coaching at play, gg Heavy.  Happy to hydra with you and get you there as town in a future game dude.

 

vote: heavy

Who do you think is doing the coaching?

[Darthe]

Fwiw I think heavy’s last response is not an admission of being a wolf, I think it’s just NAI.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Just now, Darthe said:

Not knowing me is to your detriment here.  
 

tell ya what, let’s play a game.  Circling back to before, envision a world where I flip and am town.  What’s your reads list then?

 

 Same q if I’m a wolf.

 

 Will go forward once those get resolved.

If you flip town, NAs notwithstanding we lose. But my suspicions would have to revert to SD and DPR most likely or the third case of wolves all slanking more or less. 

 

If you flip wolf that would intensify my cannot-put-my-finger-on-it suspicion of Turin. With a slanking third. 

 

Of course, EoD always serves up excitement so that could all change. 

 

But I cannot think of any reason for you to react the way you did to my posts...

 

But anyway that was a fun game. But bedtime for me need to jump under the shower. 

[Darthe]

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

Who do you think is doing the coaching?

A question I hoped I wouldn’t be asked today.  Some players don’t make good coaches and some aren’t active to participate in this sorta thing real time.  That said, it’s hard to say still.  My paranoia says it could indicate I’m wrong about one of you/turin but again I don’t think that deserves credence.  Tbh I don’t really like even voicing it yet, but it’s honest.

[Darthe]

2 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

If you flip town, NAs notwithstanding we lose. But my suspicions would have to revert to SD and DPR most likely or the third case of wolves all slanking more or less. 

 

If you flip wolf that would intensify my cannot-put-my-finger-on-it suspicion of Turin. With a slanking third. 

 

Of course, EoD always serves up excitement so that could all change. 

 

But I cannot think of any reason for you to react the way you did to my posts...

 

But anyway that was a fun game. But bedtime for me need to jump under the shower. 

Okay, I can track this.  Follow-up, since there’s a third wolf missing in both scenarios: what are your reads on the middle of the pack?  I’m fine with them being tenuous as long as they’re all represented.  Most important are the town reads. 
 

In opposition to your point about my responses, can you justify it as a wolf?  I could just stay quiet and probably win.  

[dicetosser1]

11 hours ago, DPR said:

@dicetosser1 I’m looking at your vote on SD and I get that he’s drawn a lot of attention to himself with his kooky posts.  But he is the top poster out of the current group.

 

If he’s scum, that would mean he came into the game with his kooky-post-plan to play out front and has kept it up.
 

That’s a lot of effort for a plan that is just as likely to get him lynched as it is to cover him. 
 

On the other hand, he’s contributed next to nothing as far as actual game content goes. His reads list above is all fluff. 
 

In my head, this is a crazy way to hide as mafia - but I got suckered into crazy play last game too lol. What do you see that I’m missing? 
 

And what do you make of @Darthe  and @HeavyHalfMoonBlade?

so when I quoted this I was happy to have heavy as town. Something I will mention at the bottom of this has given me pause

 

darthe I’m not sure on. I asked him his read on me at one point when we were both around and he didn’t answer but then a fair while later he gives me a “if you’re town I need you to hammer this” sorta post which he has recently doubled down on

 

His little power play here isn’t going to get a lot of traction with me.  Iirc last time I saw him like this he was scum. I may be misremembering because that game was super frustrating and I was involved to the very end

 

 

7 hours ago, ed2funy said:

Tigs, SD, and Heavy. Purely going off wagonomics lol 

are nice people??

 

what is this?

 

 

6 hours ago, Darthe said:

Okay, in consideration of that I’m taking this game semi hostage.

 

no offense, just don’t trust any of you to be both 1) town and 2) make good decisions.

 

I will not be voting Wes, Turin, or Heavy today.  Probably not tomorrow either.  I am 90% sure ima be voting SD.  Feel free to make cases as you will between the rest, though Ed is the second most likely to persuade me.  
 

also I guess heavy less deserves to be in that top 3 than the other two.  Uhhhhhh ima stick to it for now

 

tell you what

 

get cop cleared

 

prove theirs no GF

 

and MAYBE then I will let you boss me around.
 

 

20 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Not gonna lie this sounds desperate. Really tone-wise nothing like your normal posts, and the threatening at the end? Sure, you do you, boo. 

 

Right so this.

 

this doesn’t sound like normal heavy. I can’t recall him talking about tone like this. And the boo? Where’s does that come from?  As soon as I hear that I hear Zander not Heavy

 

also tonally? Darthe sounds like darthe. So he’s wrong too.

[DPR]

10 minutes ago, Darthe said:

A question I hoped I wouldn’t be asked today.  Some players don’t make good coaches and some aren’t active to participate in this sorta thing real time.  That said, it’s hard to say still.  My paranoia says it could indicate I’m wrong about one of you/turin but again I don’t think that deserves credence.  Tbh I don’t really like even voicing it yet, but it’s honest.

Nothing to lose imo

[Darthe]

Hey Dice, glad you’re on.  Fraid you’re never gonna fully trust me man but then I’m not gonna fully trust you either.  Doesn’t change the needs placed on us both if we are both town.

[Darthe]

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

Nothing to lose imo

I’m not planning to lose today man.  Why do you think young bull is here too strong?

[Darthe]

I’d put real money heavy is getting some outside help.  

[dicetosser1]

7 minutes ago, Darthe said:

Hey Dice, glad you’re on.  Fraid you’re never gonna fully trust me man but then I’m not gonna fully trust you either.  Doesn’t change the needs placed on us both if we are both town.

 

fair enuff

 

[Darthe]

Good news, today is simplified.  Wolves can’t snap hammer because they’re afraid of a doc protect tonight or etc. But there’s almost always a wolf between me, Wes, and heavy now.  

[DPR]

15 minutes ago, Darthe said:

I’m not planning to lose today man.  Why do you think young bull is here too strong?

You’re gonna have to explain this last sentence 

[DPR]

15 minutes ago, Darthe said:

I’d put real money heavy is getting some outside help.  

Go back and look at his posts from d1. He’s not being coached - he had a lightbulb moment watching Gabriel

[DPR]

That and, even if he was a willing participant in such a thing, there is a very short list of players present who would fit that role

[DPR]

And I don’t see him participating in that anyway. Heavy strikes me as much more independently minded. 

[DPR]

I have wondered about him mimicking - he could be doing that, but that also doesn’t jive with the earnestness I saw in the last two games. 
 

My money is on something just clicked for him

[dicetosser1]

to be clear   i dont think hes being coached. at least not the way darthes saying. But some of us have given him tips and stuff and i think they show up every now and then. I do think that last post of his is a different tone to normal heavy but it could very well be him incorporating what he has seen.

[DPR]

Or, I’m jus way off base and lolme

 

Who wants a martini?

[DPR]

Just now, dicetosser1 said:

to be clear   i dont think hes being coached. at least not the way darthes saying. But some of us have given him tips and stuff and i think they show up every now and then. I do think that last post of his is a different tone to normal heavy but it could very well be him incorporating what he has seen.

Did you already explain your case on SD - I just need a nutshell. I know what I think I see, but there was that one time I was wrong 🤣

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

31 minutes ago, Darthe said:

Okay, I can track this.  Follow-up, since there’s a third wolf missing in both scenarios: what are your reads on the middle of the pack?  I’m fine with them being tenuous as long as they’re all represented.  Most important are the town reads. 
 

SD still needs to explain the whole asterisk thing. That is really concerning. Though if he was a wolf it would be odd if those trying to sus him were also wolves. Could be bussing be seems a strange choice at this point.

 

Tigs has sounded sincere, made some good points, difficult to have much depth in the read, there was that TMI moment but really I don't think it can be seen as a slip. 

 

Ed could be either, just not enough to go on. 

 

Dice I was feeling quite good about, though less so since he has arrived to pitch in with support for you, and his claim that your tone in your responses to me were your normal, calm, sitting in an armchair smiling fondly at the kids tone, and did not smack of desperation and frustration, I really don't understand. 

31 minutes ago, Darthe said:

In opposition to your point about my responses, can you justify it as a wolf?  I could just stay quiet and probably win.  

Yup, but I'm guessing that in situations where you loose your cool, you probably did not intend to. But point taken, though is that not true of all mafia? If the wolves never said anything they would be rarely found but it wouldn't be much of a game. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Anyway definitely bed now. Past 2am. 

 

See you all in the morning.