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[Gudrean]

vote zander   jkjkjkjkjk  😉

[seph]

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:54 AM, Zander? said:

 

@seph this is the Turin train Seph and now looking back at it and add the reason your pushing Verb.....is not a good look.....NGL.....

 

Note: I can't bring myself to ever put Turins name in blue even half of it LOLOLOLOLOL 

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I doubt you even know the reason for my vote being there 🤣

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 1:35 AM, seph said:

I doubt you even know the reason for my vote being there 🤣

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I can barely remember my own name lololololol.   Doesn't change the fact it's sketched me lolololol

[dicetosser1]

  On 4/10/2025 at 5:50 PM, seph said:

How does a messenger balance it? I don't even see the usefulness of the role at all tbh, they have their own chat. No one will trust a random message as displayed in our game.

I get the gist of what you are saying here, I guess I just disagree. You are saying mason's would be Lclear, IC would be lock clear, and neighbors wouldn't be?? Are you both not talking about Lock clearing the slot based on there being two wolf teams? 
or are we clearing the slot because of one messenger flip?
I am questioning the logic.. but I want to understand and it would the last two wolves are in Gud/Dice.

True, that makes more sense. I just can't seem to grasp it.

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Re Messenger  you are ight... NOW. but before Turin got modkilled? He apparently sent Key a message and she got it and believed it.

 

Masons are only lock clear if a) one is cop cleared or b ) one is dead and flipped mason AND had said/breadcrumbed his mate

 

You laid out the possibilities for Neighbours tho technically you can also have T/3p or W/3p. Because of these possibilities a neighbour isnt lock cleared on that alone. 

 

What Zander is doing is mafia math and working out whats most LIKELY. Based off 2 scum teams.

 

 

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 4:14 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

Re Messenger  you are ight... NOW. but before Turin got modkilled? He apparently sent Key a message and she got it and believed it.

 

Masons are only lock clear if a) one is cop cleared or b ) one is dead and flipped mason AND had said/breadcrumbed his mate

 

You laid out the possibilities for Neighbours tho technically you can also have T/3p or W/3p. Because of these possibilities a neighbour isnt lock cleared on that alone. 

 

What Zander is doing is mafia math and working out whats most LIKELY. Based off 2 scum teams.

 

 

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Dice said I was right and I can math?!???????

 

Is the world ending or something?!??!?!!

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL 

[dicetosser1]

I said SEPH was right   im not saying that to you every again...

 

 

its mafia math   you cant normal math

[dicetosser1]

ok i mucked up the mq and now cant find the post

 

@Gudrean  Why is anything you say D1 NAI?  Does this apply to everyone else?

[Ithillian Turambar]

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[Ithillian Turambar]

Good morning game.

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 7:28 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Good morning game.

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Uggggh. I don't know about good I feel like a no bag of you know what lol.  But Morning IthiGOATess Moddess ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 10:21 AM, Zander? said:

 

Uggggh. I don't know about good I feel like a no bag of you know what lol.  But Morning IthiGOATess Moddess ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

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Like a huge bag of you know what 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ew.

 

Well, keep up your fluids and lots of rest.

[Gudrean]

  On 4/11/2025 at 5:19 AM, dicetosser1 said:

ok i mucked up the mq and now cant find the post

 

@Gudrean  Why is anything you say D1 NAI?  Does this apply to everyone else?

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because I don't get reads on anyone until D2, to me everyone is town until D2, because It's only my 3rd game and I'm still learning how to even understand half of the jargon, because first actual day of the game I'm still in jokey friendly mode so most of what I'm saying is just silly banter, like me saying personal jokes with Zander that I think he will get but everyone else thinks is a tell. 

 

Sure why not, none of us know anything day one, we just pretend to anyways!

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 11:01 AM, Gudrean said:

because I don't get reads on anyone until D2, to me everyone is town until D2, because It's only my 3rd game and I'm still learning how to even understand half of the jargon, because first actual day of the game I'm still in jokey friendly mode so most of what I'm saying is just silly banter, like me saying personal jokes with Zander that I think he will get but everyone else thinks is a tell. 

 

Sure why not, none of us know anything day one, we just pretend to anyways!

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Some people may accept your no reads on day 1 (everyone's) town even tho you give reads day 1 which kinda conflicts with that.  But noone is going to accept everything day 1 is NAI.  Sure there are a few things for certain players that if said or done would be considered NAI but almost everything in a game of Mafia is AI.  ❤️ 

[Zander?]

@dicetosser1 you likey the new siggy?!?!!!!!

Lololololol 

[Gudrean]

  On 4/11/2025 at 11:29 AM, Zander? said:

 

Some people may accept your no reads on day 1 (everyone's) town even tho you give reads day 1 which kinda conflicts with that.  But noone is going to accept everything day 1 is NAI.  Sure there are a few things for certain players that if said or done would be considered NAI but almost everything in a game of Mafia is AI.  ❤️ 

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That's interesting!  Everyone of you are constantly saying blah blah blah person X but that's NAI.

He asked me, I answered, but that's typical, you never accept my answers! 

[Gudrean]

  On 4/11/2025 at 11:29 AM, Zander? said:

 

Some people may accept your no reads on day 1 (everyone's) town even tho you give reads day 1 which kinda conflicts with that.  But noone is going to accept everything day 1 is NAI.  Sure there are a few things for certain players that if said or done would be considered NAI but almost everything in a game of Mafia is AI.  ❤️ 

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Imagine what y'all would say if I didn't give reads? oh she's a wolf cause she can't even give any reads... but then I do give them and they are all town reads, and it's the same outcome so DIYDDIYD! how's that for a mafia acronym?

[Zander?]

Like I said and like you said. you said NOTHING is AI Day 1.  Which is 100% incorrect.  Some things are for some people for sure based off their Meta/Past games as either and or each alignment.   Like me saying I'm Town or the VILLAGERY VILLAGER TO EVER VILLAGE is 100% not Al FOR ME(not for everyone but me specifically). Because I do that as any alignment.  Turin being the Wolfiest SOAB On planet Earth is 100% not AI for him because he literally is the Wolfiest SOAB On planet Earth... LOLOLOLOLOL.  But things like that.  There's exceptions for certain things for certain people based on their Meta/Gameplay/Tendencies from a collective of previous games as each alignment.   While you may/do have one of two you haven't played enough now played as both alignments in multiple finished games for you to have anything really be NAI for you.  Like last Game I said she's playing similar to her first game which made me read you Town last game.  I feel this game you're paying/posting/feeling differently.  Hope this explanation makes sense to you.

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 11:59 AM, Gudrean said:

That's interesting!  Everyone of you are constantly saying blah blah blah person X but that's NAI.

He asked me, I answered, but that's typical, you never accept my answers! 

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  On 4/11/2025 at 12:25 PM, Zander? said:

Like I said and like you said. you said NOTHING is AI Day 1.  Which is 100% incorrect.  Some things are for some people for sure based off their Meta/Past games as either and or each alignment.   Like me saying I'm Town or the VILLAGERY VILLAGER TO EVER VILLAGE is 100% not Al FOR ME(not for everyone but me specifically). Because I do that as any alignment.  Turin being the Wolfiest SOAB On planet Earth is 100% not AI for him because he literally is the Wolfiest SOAB On planet Earth... LOLOLOLOLOL.  But things like that.  There's exceptions for certain things for certain people based on their Meta/Gameplay/Tendencies from a collective of previous games as each alignment.   While you may/do have one of two you haven't played enough now played as both alignments in multiple finished games for you to have anything really be NAI for you.  Like last Game I said she's playing similar to her first game which made me read you Town last game.  I feel this game you're paying/posting/feeling differently.  Hope this explanation makes sense to you.

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Sorry forgot to quote Gud's post I was responding to.

[seph]

 

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:34 AM, Verbal32 said:

 

I'm supposed to just take your word for it here?  Why not interact with me - you have something to hold your attention.  Kinda seems like the same thing I was doing with Turin, no?  That's called "pot, meet kettle".

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You had a question to me about when I said I am here to interact with verb and it was based off this post, We have probably done the most interaction out of anyone today tbh.

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:46 AM, Zander? said:

 

You're legit sketching me out now.  You're sussing Verb for doing pretty much the exact same thing, with the exact same person for the exact same reason I did bot saying he's Wolfy for it?!?!!!!  

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I am sussing him because it's one of the only things he has done this game Zander. Besides, what was the point of all that sus he had towards Turin to state he would flip his vote to CASS to avoid random, after stating he wouldn't vote Cass because me and Darthe. Just to lie about it, be in the thread and let it go to random anyways???

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:48 AM, Verbal32 said:

 

 

Now that's a misrep.  I've liked and not liked plenty of posts - that doesn't make the poster town or scum.  over the years I've developed some "tells" that I often see scum do, and I call those out as such (scumtells, I'm fairly certain I used that term) and sus the player as a result.  It's not a like/dislike thing.

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okokok, that was a bit far on my end, probably, and the way you explained it here does make sense. Your gameplay just doesn't make sense to me, and how I play as I generally have to type out my thought process, which doesn't always come across to others as actual thoughts.

 

 

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:18 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

right so now youre gaming the mod too? sigh

 

Explain to me   Why would he claim as one of the first things he did? You havent. Gud hasnt. I havent.

 

Youre starting to sketch me out

 

 

 

Finally you start opening your eyes.

 

Thank you

 

 

im working on catching up now, im up to date with the latest posts but really on page 100

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Dice, this was in regard to the, I was going to claim eventually, post by Verb. I guess I just really don't believe him that he planned on claiming tbh. I have been planning to claim today from the get-go, and it was one of the main reasons I was sussing verb from my first post. It has to be you/him/both in my mind.
My role is JOAT, and the most important thing I can offer is that I roleblocked Gud last night. I doc'd Zander n1, and I copped Key n2.  Gud could not have been involved in the nightkills, and today I am only willing to lynch Verb/Dice.

My thoughts on the game are we have 2 wolves, or 1 wolf 1 3p now that Dice has me thinking about it and turincass was the other wolf. The more I think about this, the more my head hurts...

Gud- I have had my problems here for most of the game and thought she was the person I was going to try and lynch... I think I was wrong and that nervous wolf energy was just her being new to the game. I feel pretty bad about berating her all game long, trying to get a read.

Dice- He is reading more like he was during day one for me. I liked his first entry post as he immediately went on to give his thoughts on the remaining players. I don't want to lynch him over Verb.

My POE
Gud
Dice
Verb

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:05 PM, Gudrean said:

Imagine what y'all would say if I didn't give reads? oh she's a wolf cause she can't even give any reads... but then I do give them and they are all town reads, and it's the same outcome so DIYDDIYD! how's that for a mafia acronym?

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What did I tell you before.  As a Villager do what you want /feel the need ed to do.  You've seen me now 3 games straight.  I play how I play, say what I say, make read how I make reads.  Because I'm a Villager.  It's Wolves that tend to bend to people asking them to do or not do stuff more often.  But I'll also add making reads is an essential part of playing Mafia and helping players get a read on you.  You know you don't have to right...you just have to convey you truly believe what your reads say to be Towny because of they read inorganic or manufactured that's typically Wolf reads.

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:25 PM, seph said:

 

 

You had a question to me about when I said I am here to interact with verb and it was based off this post, We have probably done the most interaction out of anyone today tbh.

I am sussing him because it's one of the only things he has done this game Zander. Besides, what was the point of all that sus he had towards Turin to state he would flip his vote to CASS to avoid random, after stating he wouldn't vote Cass because me and Darthe. Just to lie about it, be in the thread and let it go to random anyways???

okokok, that was a bit far on my end, probably, and the way you explained it here does make sense. Your gameplay just doesn't make sense to me, and how I play as I generally have to type out my thought process, which doesn't always come across to others as actual thoughts.

 

 

Dice, this was in regard to the, I was going to claim eventually, post by Verb. I guess I just really don't believe him that he planned on claiming tbh. I have been planning to claim today from the get-go, and it was one of the main reasons I was sussing verb from my first post. It has to be you/him/both in my mind.
My role is JOAT, and the most important thing I can offer is that I roleblocked Gud last night. I doc'd Zander n1, and I copped Key n2.  Gud could not have been involved in the nightkills, and today I am only willing to lynch Verb/Dice.

My thoughts on the game are we have 2 wolves, or 1 wolf 1 3p now that Dice has me thinking about it and turincass was the other wolf. The more I think about this, the more my head hurts...

Gud- I have had my problems here for most of the game and thought she was the person I was going to try and lynch... I think I was wrong and that nervous wolf energy was just her being new to the game. I feel pretty bad about berating her all game long, trying to get a read.

Dice- He is reading more like he was during day one for me. I liked his first entry post as he immediately went on to give his thoughts on the remaining players. I don't want to lynch him over Verb.

My POE
Gud
Dice
Verb

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Also this one was the one PR I prayed noone claimed it's completely a 50/50 role neabi Wolves and Town get this PR pretty much the exact same amount of times.  Sadface.gif.

 

You realize there other possibilities explaining the second kill right?

 

Also now even tho I'm sick because I know noone else will nor do I trust anyone else gotta start back at page 1 and see if your Key peek claim makes sense.

 

Dude 4 Wolves AND a 3rd Party in only a 11er?!?!?!!?  I want whatever drugs youre on if a Villager lolololololol

[Zander?]

Noones answered me but is there a way to remove a certain person or multiple people's post from a thread and only get the rest?!?!)!)!

[Zander?]

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:36 PM, Zander? said:

Noones answered me but is there a way to remove a certain person or multiple people's post from a thread and only get the rest?!?!)!)!

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@Verbal32

@Ithillian Turambar

[Zander?]

Wait a second....we had a full Doc and a X1 role locker and a claimed already X1 cop peek....I dunno me..... tho this could be true and would explain your take on Setup which made no sense to me at the time..... FML