MAFIA - The Suras Hunt [Game Thread]

[MsDanya]

well first of all, I wasnt really asked to choose between the Adrmial and the Minister, at least not that I had to answer to.. but i'll check again jsut to be sure..

 

I Was given the choice to use the reddishorangy bonestone, and I said that I would very much like to use it since it will tell me not only the alignemen of the people I view but also if they have a role and what role they might have. it would also give me the chance to get some "bonusviews" if that should ever become a possibility.

 

other than that I think it was mostly the same. the story about the Bonestones and the part about the Witches being the third party and all that..

 

I also dont think I was told the alignemts of the Ministr and Admiral, but i'll check that too just to be sure.

 

so the short of it is that i'm still the Finder. but the thing now is that if people might have changed their alignments, i'll have to view them again, and it will take a while to know who is who again unless I get those bonusviews.

[MsDanya]

now that I check the pm again, it does say that the Admiral has "assassins". so that means he's evil? but also that the Minister isnt exactly the nicest guy out there  :P

[loki redfern]

so basically were really back to day one..unless eveyone got the same choice and chose innocent in which case we would win..but from my PM it doesnt sound like that happened

 

 

 

hmm so if danya got the redish one does that mean someone got the black one then?

[MsDanya]

I though that the Black was actually in someones possesion already? or maybe i've jsut misunderstood something :P

 

but yeah, since the witch had both stones, i'm sure she offered it to someone.

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

No, in what I was told the witch took the black bonestone and set it out on the table in front of her and I. I think she was using the black bonestone. Why else would we be asked if we want to change our alignment? It would probably be helpful if someone actually found that particular bonestone, and gave it to the witch, they speak up about it.

 

I was told (and I can't quote it--grrr): You must choose a side. Either Minister/Innocent, or Admiral/Assassin. It was quite clear in my pm that the Admiral was the assassin side, and the Minister is the innocent side. When I replied I even wrote out Minister/Innocent in my response.

[Haxorsist]

I think we got the same PM, Far. I also said I'd stay with the Minister/Innocent. It just didn't make sense to change sides, because in my eyes it seemed like we were winning.

[loki redfern]

well we still have the healer and finder, as well they would just be silly to swap now so yeh all in all we are in a much stronger position than the evil team. also i think its gonna be the us with the majority as most of us will probably stick with there original role and in the end the majority should win out

[Vemynal]

For me:

She had the black bonestone on the table

 

The witch knows who is good/bad

 

She also said that’s the minister and admiral will soon fight and the winner will kill the supporters of the other side.

 

She introduced a reddish/orange bonestone (one like danya mentioned) and said that with that bonestone their will be no secrets.

 

She then gave me the choice of becoming an assassin or staying an innocent civy and I chose to stay innocent.

 

But she commented that people seem to be choosing the side of the assassins, which worries me.

 

From all this I can draw that all civilians have been given this offer, from what danya said about being given a reddish orange bonestone and what the witch said it sounds to me as though the rolled innocents didn’t get this choice, but were given something to assist them. Likely the old murderers will keep their roll because of the chance of recruits but they could have been given the chance as well.

 

Nonetheless! The witch said that the secrets will be out! It sounds to me as if soon their can be and will be no more secrets.

 

[Vemynal]

Innocents:

Minister

Ms. Danya

Assassins:

Admiral

 

Unknown:

Far Dareis Mai

Good Grief

Barmacral

Haxorsist

Vemynal

Kivam

Loki

 

Barm is now an unknown sicne the black bonestone was used right? I wasn't sure entirely so I put him there.

 

Can we get a mod confirmation that the black bonestone was indeed used, which caused all this?

 

And I told you guys! i told you! the admiral is [glow=black,2,300]EVIL[/glow]

[Vemynal]

Now heres the thing guys, is loki evil or not? the admiral voted for him and we have confirmation that the admiral is evil now. but the admiral voted before the option to role change. Or is the admiral votign for loki to distance themselves from each other for the time being since I have the vote lead?

 

Current Game Vote Count:

Vemy ( 4 ) - Griefy, Kivam, Danya, Hax

Loki ( 3 ) - Loki, Vem, Admiral

with 10 left its 6 to lynch

 

9 hours till the day ends and we get a random kill!

[loki redfern]

all this bursting to say what you all chose i supose we'll have to let actions speak louder than words, its to easy to just 'say' what you chose you dont have to mean it

and vemy did it specify that rolled innocents dont get a choice?

its possible that danya could be bluffing and has changed alignments

and even if she was no longer the finder she could still profess to be. i dont really consider this to be true as i just dont think she's that devious, no offence ;), and anyway just something to think over, and im sure we'll find out sooner or later nyway, so its all good. sooner hopefully

 

 

*edit*

also i would think that all votes and there reasons before the PM would be null and void, and also i was innocent then(im innocent now but i guess thats to your own figuring to find out) but if you still want to lynch me sure why not

[Kivam]

Unless I'm seriously misunderstanding my PM, I was not given an option to choose anything

[loki redfern]

also ..sorry for the double post here, but the way i see it ..im not sure if i said this already, ..is that basically we have started over a new game here so untill danya has started viewing people its moreorless a random lynch, unless we can find some nuance changes in peoples behaviors different from the whole rest of the game. also i think the thing bout people chosing 'the dark side' is a bluff for wes to get people to chose it, as it has become very very depleted. also..if the admiral was evil before why did he/(or wes have him) kill jackdaw then. hmmm this is suddenly turing in to a very intersting game :D

[Kivam]

OK, if I'm misreading my PM I'm probably going to get modkilled for this, since I haven't submitted a response to it (doesn't seem like it calls for one), but here's the substance of the PM:

 

The witch had two pieces of bonestone: black, and the one we got from the cave.  She is a member of the Sisterhood, the power behind the Hall.  She told me of a prophecy: The Minister and Admiral will duel for control over the Hall.  And if any of us - assassins or innocents - want to survive the duel, I need to be there when it happens.  I've been told that I'll find out more about why that is once the duel begins.

[loki redfern]

ooh sounds like you have a special role then. referee perhaps? ministers second?

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

Alright, so thus far we've got three different pm's circulating.

 

Danya was offered to use the red bonestone, which would let her know everyone's alignment and role, in addition to the possibility of a couple bonus reads.

 

Kivam got one that basically said he needed to be there for the "Last Battle" (hehe, get it?)

 

And Me, Hax, Vem, and Loki all claim to have received one that asked us to choose a side. From the extra details we got from Hax and Vem, I can confirm that theirs either closely (or exactly) match mine. 

 

I'm curious to see whose Griefy's resembles.

 

But now that leaves us with a little more than a workday to pick someone. It's too late in the game to chance a random lynch. We don't want to risk our Finder or Healer.

 

And I still believe that Danya has her Finder role, and I still believe she is good.

[Vemynal]

I believe Danya in her role as well

 

*NO* it did not state explicitly that she didn't have a choice

 

But from what shes said about a "reddish orange bonestone" helping her find the roles of others and a "reddish orange bonestone" that we found in the cave and the witch had with her leads me to believe the witch has passed it to danya and that she is still our finder.

 

Still seeking mod clarification: Has the black bone stone been played?

 

we need to know because only if the black bonestone has been played can Barm possibly become evil. From the description of us choosing sides i don't think it has been played but until we recieve clarification I'll keep him as an unknown.

 

@ kivam: "And if any of us - assassins or innocents - want to survive the duel, I need to be there when it happens.  I've been told that I'll find out more about why that is once the duel begins."

 

That differs from what I was told. it was very blatant in my pm: Pick to stay with the minister/innocent or to join the admiral/assassin

 

And nothing said I "had" to be there or things would be bad for everyone.

 

and red...I shouldn't have to point this out but...shouldn't you take your vote off yourself and place it on myself?

[DPR]

Mod Clarification: Any bonestone that is found will be announced upon use, and listed as "Found And Used" on the stats page.

[Vemynal]

great! Barm is a confirmed innocent then and the black stone hasn't been used! As it stands:

Innocents:

Minister

Ms. Danya

Barm

Assassins:

Admiral

Unknown:

Far Dareis Mai

Good Grief

Haxorsist

Vemynal

Kivam

Loki

 

excluding the minister and admiral: there are 8 of us left. We also know that there was at least 1 other murderer amongst the original group unknowns:

FDM, Vemy (me^^), and Loki.

 

What we don't know is whether the murderers were given the same choice to jump ship and become innocents. So why don't we ask.

 

Roberts, were murderer's given the choice to change alignment. This won't give us confirmation that they did so we still have to go about things our own way. But did they have a choice?

 

Imo: once we have mod clarification we will know more, but in the mean time I say we stick with the kill me or loki vote off.

the healer should heal Danya tonight! (very important!)

And danya you should view someone other then kivam tonight, its way to high of odds that the murderers will kill kivam assuming he's still good.

 

More news! Loki did [glow=red,2,300]not[/glow] have any bonestone on him!

 

And Danya, be careful. it has been hinted at that some other thief will go after your piece of bonestone

[Kivam]

Vem, why don't you tell Danya how to avoid that?

[loki redfern]

by not posting at all would be the only way. or after vemy as he like handing them in, thieves take the bonestone by being the person to post directly after you, and unless you this FDM was/is evil then i think , other than the admiral maybe there were no other evils, maybe griefy was a symp. hel, if i had have been evil i would have switched to innocent anyway...they seem to be having an unnerving tendency to get themselves killed...ok little of track there..so vemy..5 evil? 6 if you say the admiral was? thats quite a few. also, in the last group there is a high posibilitty of the healer being there. which gives problems lynching FDM, hax and greify  ..and me if you must, as one of us is the healer, as if we lynch and the healer is forced to reveal poof healer night killed, however vemy im not lynching you because im not actually sure what to do yet, and you have that ring of truth and kivam groupie thing going on..so indeed quite a quandry

[Barmacral]

Alright folks, this is gonna be a long one... buckle in and prepare to read.

 

First: Sorry about disappearing last night, got sucked into Harry Potter and forgot about the game.

 

Second: The Admiral is NOT EVIL. I cannot repeat this enough it seems, as I HAVE said this before. The Admiral and the Minister are NOT aligned players. I am not saying the Admiral's intents aren't evil, just that he isn't.

 

Third: I do not know anything about the PM's. Don't ask me about them.

 

Fourth: I am not with you at this time, I'm off saving the world... er, at least the city that we are in from the Neitarians (spelling?), as they were rather offended by SamVines body being sent to them.

 

Finally, the questions that were asked and not yet answered. Let me know if I missed any:

 

Does the information have to do with a role not described in the introductory information Wes/DPR put out on this thread and/or the public thread? Yes, as it happens, it does. The role in question has been mentioned by Wes though, just not described.

 

Does the information have to do with a role described in the introductory information Wes/DPR put out on this thread and/or the public thread? No.

 

Do you know how many assassins are left? No.

 

Does the information have to do with the number of assassins there are? No.

Does the information have to do with what the assassins might know? Um... not really no.

Does the information have to do with whom the assassins might target? No.

 

Do you know who the assassins are? No.

 

Can you give us information about the assassins? This question is not going to be answered. Bad question.

 

Who are the assassins? I don't know.

 

Can you tell us about more then one assassin at a time? Only if I know about more than one.

 

how many assassins are left? I don't know.

 

Do you know who they are planning to night kill? No.

 

Does it have to do with their night kill? No.

 

Does it have to do with the black bone stone? No.

 

Does it have to do with any bone stone? No.

 

Barm, are there more than one group of assassins? I don't know. I don't believe there is though, but thats just personal opinion.

[MsDanya]

how do we know we still have a Healer? couldnt the Healer have switched to Evil?

 

and I shall protect it with my BoP&G  :P

[Vemynal]

thieves take the bonestone by being the person to post directly after you

 

wrong!

 

And thief steals bonestone from someone by pming the mod who they want to steal from. Then the person who they chose has to post right after them.

 

So Danya needs to post as rarely as possible, almost never in fact if she can. Certainly no spamming.

 

btw, Kivam. I funny enough had just pmed Roberts to steal from you before you posted after me. So I have stolen from you, I have not received a pm telling me what I have taken (if you even have anything).

 

I apologize but after this mix up i don't know your alignment. trust that I will be passing it along to a player I trust for the time being.

 

So to those players with bonestone! Be careful who you post after!

[loki redfern]

Second: The Admiral is NOT EVIL. I cannot repeat this enough it seems, as I HAVE said this before. The Admiral and the Minister [glow=red,2,300]are NOT aligned players[/glow]. I am not saying the Admiral's intents aren't evil, just that he isn't.

 

 

 

 

ADMIRAL (new) – a combination of the previous Judge and Captain roles (the names of which already bear precedence in the MAFIA world, hence the name change). The Admiral is a blind player (will appear as Admiral) [glow=red,2,300]but will have an alignment.[/glow] The Admiral may supply information like the Guide, but the information will depend on their alignment and may be true or may be intended to lead players into a trap. The Admiral is immune to normal lynching or night kills, but is also susceptible to any of the bonestone’s powers. The Admiral may or may not come in to play.

 

EDIT: MINISTER (new) - The Minister is similar to the Admiral in that he will play as the Minister.[glow=red,2,300] He will have an alignment[/glow], may supply information, and can ask questions. He is immune to the lynch or night kills, but vulnerable to any effects from bonestone.

 

 

just sayin