What are they doing to Canon?

[Elendir]

2 hours ago, DigificWriter said:

It is impossible to carry on a good-faith discussion with someone who makes it clear through their comments that they are not actually interested in having a good-faith discussion, which is why said persons get dismissed as not having any relevant thoughts about the show.

 

One of the signs of an opposing viewpoint that is worth talking about is that the person expressing said viewpoint can offer a strong defense of said viewpoint if/when asked to do so by someone who holds an opposing viewpoint, but the fact is that a good number of the show's haters fail to be able to accomplish this task if/when they are faced with it.

 

I never call TV show with any pejorative words. Yet when I made a work to express the essence of my disagreement with it. I met only answers, like this isn't relevant, this isn't important, story started with the fourth book nothing before maters.

So yes, there is no reason to discus when one side decide to be deaf. The thing is, that all that "irrelevant" details caught up TV show at the end.

[king of nowhere]

there have been several productive discussions.

however, it's been over a year since the show premiered. we exhausted the meaningful discussions months ago.

[DigificWriter]

You cannot have a cogent conversation with someone who both refuses to accept the validity of any opinions or viewpoints that aren't in complete lock-step with their own and also either refuses to or cannot satisfactorily justify or substantiate their opinions and viewpoints when pressed to do so.

 

It's the reason why the Prequel and Sequel Trilogies fractured the Star Wars fandom and led to the huge rise of open toxicity within said fandom.

 

Constructive and civil discourse about the WoT TV series can absolutely happen here and elsewhere; it's just sadly rare due to the fact that a good number of those who want to criticize the show online have made it clear from their tenor and tone that they have no interest in considering any points of view that don't validate their own.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

4 hours ago, DigificWriter said:

You cannot have a cogent conversation with someone who both refuses to accept the validity of any opinions or viewpoints that aren't in complete lock-step with their own and also either refuses to or cannot satisfactorily justify or substantiate their opinions and viewpoints when pressed to do so.

 

It's the reason why the Prequel and Sequel Trilogies fractured the Star Wars fandom and led to the huge rise of open toxicity within said fandom.

 

Constructive and civil discourse about the WoT TV series can absolutely happen here and elsewhere; it's just sadly rare due to the fact that a good number of those who want to criticize the show online have made it clear from their tenor and tone that they have no interest in considering any points of view that don't validate their own.

Of course that can be said to go both ways. It is not only about finding those that agree with us, but about experiencing different viewpoints. 

 

I would hesitantly put forward that that is why dealing with specifics is better - I have seen many differing opinions about the casting, for example, yet very few entirely positive or negative. That leaves room for interesting discussion. 

 

The same with for example, Thom's instrument. COVID has played a large part in some of the issues, yet that does not stop opinions or discussions of the rest.