Little Miss Mafia [Basic] 9'er - Game Thread

[Sooh]

2 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

 

ok so im thinking tripped because i cant get past why wasnt i RBd n2.   I dont think i was all THAT subtle...  i had in my head that the people i KNEW would get it were AJ Nyn Cass   and probably crusher.  I really doubt crusher missed it.

So if crusher catches it WHY wasnt i rbd??  only answer i can come up with is the RB wasnt there.


@Zanatron   do you think a sooh/crusher team misses my role and lets me go unblocked?

@Sooh   same question but a zander/crusher team.

 

 

 

i am.  the company RUNS britains rail system and is here to help improve ours. TONS of technical lingo and acronyms to learn   very techie  which is new to me  but interesting enuff to give me a problem   i had an interview for a permanent but parttime job the other day    if i get it do i take it?  besides less money  will be more boring and i will learn far less   but it is secure...

Would the roleblock be locked to the player? I'm kind of used to if a mafia team is alive both of them then anyone can send in orders on behalf of the team. Gaming the mod, but that's what I thought would have happened anyway. 

 

You know I'm crap at catching PR clues, idk about Crusher/Z. I don't know Crusher well enough and with Z I just can't remember if he used to catch stuff like that. I thought it was pretty subtle tbh lol. Maybe they figured getting Liz/Nyn off the table was most important and prioritized using powers there? Idk who they would have thought were the protective role either. 

[Zander?]

@dicetosser1 tbh never thought about it....i think in that case tho (and again dont wanna assume on gaming the mod) but Ive bee minority villa with a pr mate who didnt show and the mods let someone else use the ability.

 

It could very well be Tripped I just see Town!Sooh dropping an insta on me at LYLO ignore and not respond to content and seemingly after like 10-20 clear a player who sint even fully read up from their posts yet afaict.  

[Sooh]

3 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

Not "yelling at all"

 

IM listing reasons for tripped that youve ignored and havent responded to yet tell me to "convince you".

 

You just now know that you picked the wrong person to try and ml?

 

It worked it Pirates on D! because me and Derf had it out bad in a previous game and you had him not caring about my alignment backing you with Calder.

 

Not nearly as easy atp.

 

Why are you pointing out reasons for Tripped and at the same time thinking it's me? That doesn't make any sense.

[Sooh]

8 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

i am.  the company RUNS britains rail system and is here to help improve ours. TONS of technical lingo and acronyms to learn   very techie  which is new to me  but interesting enuff to give me a problem   i had an interview for a permanent but parttime job the other day    if i get it do i take it?  besides less money  will be more boring and i will learn far less   but it is secure...

This part I forgot. Is the job you're in now temporary or not secure since you're considering changing again? Sounds cool though with a lot of challenges ?

[Zander?]

But again maybe they didnt and its just simply Sooh wrong and its Triiped and with Tripped sitting back and not doing much that bothers me too.  But Soohs "push" on me is awful and I have trouble shaking bad pushes against me....something else Sooh knows well aboot me eh!!!!!

[dicetosser1]

3 minutes ago, Sooh said:

Would the roleblock be locked to the player? I'm kind of used to if a mafia team is alive both of them then anyone can send in orders on behalf of the team. Gaming the mod, but that's what I thought would have happened anyway. 

 

You know I'm crap at catching PR clues, idk about Crusher/Z. I don't know Crusher well enough and with Z I just can't remember if he used to catch stuff like that. I thought it was pretty subtle tbh lol. Maybe they figured getting Liz/Nyn off the table was most important and prioritized using powers there? Idk who they would have thought were the protective role either. 

 

ive seen both.  i tend to think ive seen it locked to a player more often unless there was prior knowledge they couldnt be there.  ive had games where someone no showed before dl and we couldnt put it in on thweir behalf

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, Sooh said:

Why are you pointing out reasons for Tripped and at the same time thinking it's me? That doesn't make any sense.

 

Because unlike you apparently im not 100% sure who it is because Im Town and its a guessing game.

[Sooh]

2 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

But again maybe they didnt and its just simply Sooh wrong and its Triiped and with Tripped sitting back and not doing much that bothers me too.  But Soohs "push" on me is awful and I have trouble shaking bad pushes against me....something else Sooh knows well aboot me eh!!!!!

Tripped doing very little is bothering me too. I mean, the analysis of me was solid enough, but I don't think she did much in terms of you. Then again I pretty much did that legwork, so

[dicetosser1]

3 minutes ago, Sooh said:

This part I forgot. Is the job you're in now temporary or not secure since you're considering changing again? Sounds cool though with a lot of challenges ?

 

yeah im a temp   the kind who can be gotten rid of on an hours notice for no reason at all.

[Sooh]

2 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

ive seen both.  i tend to think ive seen it locked to a player more often unless there was prior knowledge they couldnt be there.  ive had games where someone no showed before dl and we couldnt put it in on thweir behalf

Idk then. 

If that is the case and it is Tripped I still feel like it's subpar play of Crusher to point out Kat's play and say she would have been lynched on JN several times. Maybe it just would look weird if he didn't. 

 

How sure are you on Z?

[Sooh]

1 minute ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

yeah im a temp   the kind who can be gotten rid of on an hours notice for no reason at all.

Gotcha. I would say if you enjoy it, keep at it. Without knowing much about unemployment stuff in Australia I would hope that you could claim that for a while while trying to get something else if it should go wrong. Being in a job that's exciting and gives me something would be worth it to me.

[dicetosser1]

2 minutes ago, Sooh said:

Idk then. 

If that is the case and it is Tripped I still feel like it's subpar play of Crusher to point out Kat's play and say she would have been lynched on JN several times. Maybe it just would look weird if he didn't. 

 

How sure are you on Z?

 

if i had any doubts on z id have gone for his throat immeadiately

[Zander?]

Just now, dicetosser1 said:

 

if i had any doubts on z id have gone for his throat immeadiately

 

Im sooooo glad i dont have to suss you anymore atp...i mean i still gotta put up with ya but not worry about ya...lolololololol

[Zander?]

6 minutes ago, Sooh said:

Tripped doing very little is bothering me too. I mean, the analysis of me was solid enough, but I don't think she did much in terms of you. Then again I pretty much did that legwork, so

 

You seemingly have np with people just saying "oh Sooh obv is perfect so shed never be wrong!!!'?!?!?!!?!?!?

[Zander?]

Dice gth who is thew Wolf and why atp?!?!?!

 

 

[Sooh]

Gah! really?

 

@TrippedOnReality where are you? (prolly US so prolly stupid early, but what the heck)

[Sooh]

I need to step out for a while, but I'll try to look at Tripped when I get back.

[Sooh]

On 7/9/2019 at 12:50 AM, The Crusher said:

Dice is scum please vote him. 

Tripped enters the game and asks who to vote, and then this interaction. 

On 7/9/2019 at 12:52 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Is he outed mafia? 

 

Also, what's the vote count at?  I saw this game is hybrid hammer? 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 12:54 AM, The Crusher said:

Yes. He is mafia as can be. Not sure what vote count is. But Dice is the vote for today. 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 12:58 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

I'd like to get a little more caught up before casting my vote especially if you don't know where votes are at.  I don't want to end the day early on accident.   Assuming Dice is mafia, who is teamed with Dice?  Who is never teamed with Dice?

Questions the content of Crusher's response immediately and doesn't want to go with that, but then two hours later: 

On 7/9/2019 at 2:05 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Oh, sweet.  Thanks for this.  I'm like, idk ~20 pages into reading.  I just got through Z/Liz slapfight that's making want to gouge my eyes out.  Not loving that Crusher told me to vote for Dice and basically peaced out.  I need to take a break to grab dinner, but I'll be back in a bit to finish reading.  

 

Can you give me cliffs on why NB and AJ got lynched, and do you think those wagons are clean or not?

 

At the very least, I don't think you/Crusher is probably a thing just based on votes/claims you posted above.  Dice/Crusher seems weird, too, based on that. 

 

Seems to go with what Cass says really easily and doesn't question her take. She doesn't vote here, but essentially she dismisses what Crusher says without second thought as soon as she gets this alternative explanation. 

[dicetosser1]

39 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

Dice gth who is thew Wolf and why atp?!?!?!

 

 

 

i think tripped

 

 

this arguing between you and sooh mes me think of the days where you and i kept being wrong on her    these arguments happened all the time back then between u too

[Sooh]

 

On 7/9/2019 at 4:57 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

Still catching up, but I think I agree with Sooh's assessment that Cass is pretty much always town if both claims are saying Cass is town.

 

As for the N0 peeks, I think the OP said the cop didn't have N0 peeks?

 

And I feel like last game I played with Dice/Z, dice was pretty sold on Z being town relatively early on and was commenting on how well he reads Z so I don't think Dice would probably peek someone he thinks he can read if that's the case.

 

Trying to decide if wolf!zander would point that out or not.  I think possibly not?  I think wolf!zander might just take the town read and run with it rather than pointing out it's probably read and not an actual peek.  I suppose maybe if the team is Dice/Z that might be a thing that would happen since wolf!z would know that Dice's claim is fake, but i also feel like they probably would have set it up better than that.  

 

On 7/9/2019 at 5:25 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

I got side tracked by work because people are stupid so I'm only in the 20s.  But i feel like Liz/Z slapfight was probably T/T, mostly because of how Z was trying to read around Liz by reading nyn instead.  I watched one game where Z was a wolf and he was significantly less confrontational so I don't really think he gets into a pointless argument about who voted who first and just keeps going down that path for little gain as a wolf and then tries to read around Liz anyway.  Like, it's way easier, if you're eventually going to town read that slot to not jump through the hoops he did to do it.  That said, idk what his read on that slot ends up being prior to the flip.

 

I think you're town for reasons stated above.  There is pretty much always at least one mafia between Crusher and Dice, but probably not both because that'd be kind of...well, not smart.

 

Which leaves me with Dice/Sooh and Crusher/Sooh.  But at least the last post I read from Sooh, i thought her tone seemed pretty good, and I liked her reasoning for calling you town.  So idk.  I feel like I'm misclearing one of Sooh/Zander, because I just don't think it's you and Crusher/Dice doesn't make any sense to me.   Maybe it will be more clear as I get more caught up.  

 

On 7/9/2019 at 7:18 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

Alright, starting to get tired and I have to be up early tomorrow.   I'm on page ~40 and I'm not really loving the interaction between Z and AJ, especially knowing AJ is town.  I see Cass's point with so many people town reading the hydra slot by then where Z would basically have to pivot away from that otherwise it just looks really bad.  I feel like AJ was trying to get Z to respond to things, but wasn't getting the response he was looking for.   I can also see wolf!zander pushing town!aj as a deepwolf read just because i think enough people are probably justifiably paranoid of scum!AJ.  I thought AJ had a decent point on Zander that his reads were fairly shallow at the time.   Dice not being Dicey enough...Cass not being Cassy enough.  I don't really remember Zander complaining as much about not being able to read people in our last game, when there were a bunch of the same people in that game, but it's possible I'm misremembering.  I'll keep trying to read tomorrow.  I think the best option today is to lynch between Dice and Crusher regardless.  I should probably read more recent stuff about the claims tomorrow to see what makes the most sense to figure out where to put my vote before i go back and read older stuff again so I'll try to do that in the morning.    

 

On 7/9/2019 at 2:00 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

I just woke up but haven’t had a chance to read claimed yet. I haven’t seen much recent from Dice so that’s not helping at all. I think anyalignment!dice would probably town read town!Zander. I have no idea if Dice would town read teammate Zander, but part of me says probably not?  Idk how often town!dice has been wrong about any alignment!zander either. He seemed very convinced last game we played and he wasn’t wrong. 

 

i still don’t like that crusher was immediately pushing for me to vote Dice with minimal explanation. And when I asked him about team options, he never responded. I’m marginally confused because most of D1 people were reading crusher pretty favorably. So I’m not sure if it was just the way claims were handled that caused everyone to reconsider crusher or what happened there.  But at this point I’m leaning towards voting crusher, pending review of claims. 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 2:26 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Idk. I liked her post about you being town, but I think sooh is probably a good enough player to say that as any alignment. I got into some posts between sooh and a few other people near EoD 1 where sooh was more feisty than I’ve seen her before. But we’ve really only played one game together so idk how useful it is. Someone, I think Dice or Zander said it was more likely to come from mafia!sooh?  But I also think i remember you saying sooh would rather be town, so I’m not sure where that leaves me. 

These posts are pretty solid analysis though. 

On 7/9/2019 at 2:29 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

No. I haven’t played with wolf!you. I did spectate a game a while ago where you were wolf and Chris and Kat were town. 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 2:58 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Did sooh/zander have any notable interactions with dice/crusher that you can recall?  I thought I saw some comments about zander/Dice from right around when I subbed in. 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 4:02 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Oh. No. I haven’t been mafia on DM before.  

 

On 7/9/2019 at 4:05 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

I’m out of time for today unless we get a weather delay and I magically have service. I expected more from Crusher if his claim was legit.  I’ll try to get more caught up tonight when I get back from the corn fields.

 

##vote:crusher 

I mean, apart from the fact that she never mentioned actually reading the claims part this vote seems solid. Seems she just took basically Cass' statement about Dice and went with it though, because she didn't question Dice the same way she did Crusher.

 

@TrippedOnReality can you talk about your thoughts on Dice around this point and why you chose to believe Cass over Crusher?

 

[Sooh]

6 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

i think tripped

 

 

this arguing between you and sooh mes me think of the days where you and i kept being wrong on her    these arguments happened all the time back then between u too

How long before you have to go to bed? I'm going through Tripped now. Will you be back before DL tomorrow? DL is like 21 hrs from now. 

[dicetosser1]

will be on briefly in the morning    assuming i get up on time

 

 

im literally about to go to bed now

[Sooh]

On 7/10/2019 at 1:54 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Nice! Thanks for posting all that Sooh.  should make life a little easier when i have time to get back to the game.  yesterday was not great irl.  i spend 3 hours looking for rental car keys in a bean field last night (no we didn't find them) and waiting for roadside assistance to show up (which it never did).  I'll have to look at Sooh/Crusher interactions later as well.    

 

Did you ever go back to look at Crusher/Z yourself, or did you just take what I said and ran with it? @TrippedOnReality

 

 

@Zanatron you mentioned you thought it was weird I didn't find anything that bothered me about Tripped. Is there anything that bothers you?

 

The post above here and the post where she just went with what Cass said is what I've mentioned bothers me, because it seems to just take others' thoughts and run with them, but at the same time there's all this great analysis being done. 

[Sooh]

22 hours ago, Sooh said:

(A thing that makes me have second thoughts on Tripped is how easily they accept other people's thoughts/comments/analysis over their own. Like when Crusher said initially that Dice was scum, and when they just bought your long post, Cass, and when thanking me for the analysis stuff I've done today. All of that is a bit eh to me, but at the same time it's not a short game to get caught up on)

 

22 hours ago, Cass said:

 

This rolled around in my head too, which is why I went back and looked at all her posts together.

 

But she did question him back at the same time, looking for further information, and she did provide her own thoughts on Zander-as-Town (a known DM entity to her) as she went, before later taking into account my response/line of thinking on what she'd reasoned. So?

 

My take on it currently is that she's just polite and not unnecessarily confrontational?

 

 

 

[Sooh]

12 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

will be on briefly in the morning    assuming i get up on time

 

 

im literally about to go to bed now

Please get up in time ❤️ lol

 

sleep well!