Little Miss Mafia [Basic] 9'er - Game Thread

[dicetosser1]

11 hours ago, Cass said:

 

Why for this?

 

 

posting this so i can refind the quote and know what it is

 

7 hours ago, Cass said:

Kk

 

I'm back and forwards on Sooh/Zander myself. 

 

The Liz-Z thing _was_ weird for him to not follow through pushing the slot, but looks like they were fairly consensus after the spat /never getting lynched D1 so it would make sense for Wolf!Z to back off there. It was null-wolfish in tone for me for Zander, think you'll get to that thought process etc later,  I'll be interested to see what you think, whether I have blinkers on there. @dicetosser1 also your gut on this after thinking/ re read if you have time? 

 

Sooh pushing/sheeping my querying of Dice is so borderline for me, it looks ~bad for me atp with me pretty sure that Dice is Town, BUT I can see the angle behind it both ways so ? 

 

@Zanatron

Can you please explain to me:

 

1) What your thoughts/approach with me yesterday was (why you were flat calling me wolf and wouldn't really enter into discussion?) and how you are/would be reading me now without both Dice and Crush calling me Town?

 

2) Why vote AJ with me if you thought I was Wolfy?

 

That spat is what made me call liz town

My read on zander   and it IS a read   is based on the fact that Zander is Zander and Im just awesome.  ?

 

 

8 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Still catching up, but I think I agree with Sooh's assessment that Cass is pretty much always town if both claims are saying Cass is town.

 

As for the N0 peeks, I think the OP said the cop didn't have N0 peeks?

 

And I feel like last game I played with Dice/Z, dice was pretty sold on Z being town relatively early on and was commenting on how well he reads Z so I don't think Dice would probably peek someone he thinks he can read if that's the case.

 

Trying to decide if wolf!zander would point that out or not.  I think possibly not?  I think wolf!zander might just take the town read and run with it rather than pointing out it's probably read and not an actual peek.  I suppose maybe if the team is Dice/Z that might be a thing that would happen since wolf!z would know that Dice's claim is fake, but i also feel like they probably would have set it up better than that.  

 

 

Hey Tripped!!  how ya been?

I did NOT have a N0 peek and ure right i wouldnt use one on zander.  not unless he was a hydra with cory or clov or something like that at least.  even that is doubtful tbh and would be my paranoia about the partner not zander

Also something cass missed saying is that crushers peeks were cass and liz/nyn. convienently they died the night he peeked them. She was right that i went from i cant read her sort of posts to cass is town overnight    gee i wonder why that would happen?

I also read AJ as town when he had a bit of an emo moment as did crusher actually.  Funny how crusher seems to be thinking the same things i am ...

and yet  despite poking at me all game he didnt investigate ME???  Hows that one work? im almost never a n1 nk so that arguments out the window.

 

3 hours ago, Sooh said:

I’m just about ready to vote crusher now. Idk if the last would be z or tripped, but z’s rushing irked me. He would totally bus a wolfbro in that situation. 

 

That said i still want dice to comment on the post cass pointed out first that I also quoted. Im out for much of my day today shopping with my mom and won’t have the chance to look at the game much. 

 

Also a thing that might be positive for z is that he still doesn’t get the setup. There’s no town power that can block a cop, but we know there’s a protective town role, and with there also being a cop we have to be in the town cop, town doc, mafia roleblock setup. 

@Sooh   this new jobs and some other stuff on top are kicking my butt so i have no idea what ure talking about here.  sorry.  can u summarise it or requote it? I wont get to it til after dl tho.


 

[dicetosser1]

so i wont be here for DL.

so heres what I want you to do

 

Hard Claim

 

 

LYNCH CRUSHER!!!!

[dicetosser1]

this versions just for @Cass regarding tomorrow night.  Totally out of game

[TrippedOnReality]

5 hours ago, Cass said:

I'm liking Tripped so far,  same caveats as above. 

 

Tripped, what's your own read on Dice And Crusher?

 

FWIW I do not see Dice being Scum this game. We're friends IRL as well as here, and I'm pretty clear now on this being PRTown him style early to avoid too much attention, and especially following N1.

 

There is no way we should be lunching him today. 

I just woke up but haven’t had a chance to read claimed yet. I haven’t seen much recent from Dice so that’s not helping at all. I think anyalignment!dice would probably town read town!Zander. I have no idea if Dice would town read teammate Zander, but part of me says probably not?  Idk how often town!dice has been wrong about any alignment!zander either. He seemed very convinced last game we played and he wasn’t wrong. 

 

i still don’t like that crusher was immediately pushing for me to vote Dice with minimal explanation. And when I asked him about team options, he never responded. I’m marginally confused because most of D1 people were reading crusher pretty favorably. So I’m not sure if it was just the way claims were handled that caused everyone to reconsider crusher or what happened there.  But at this point I’m leaning towards voting crusher, pending review of claims. 

[TrippedOnReality]

5 hours ago, Cass said:

Also @TrippedOnReality (after sleep)

 

Thoughts on Sooh?

 

Idk. I liked her post about you being town, but I think sooh is probably a good enough player to say that as any alignment. I got into some posts between sooh and a few other people near EoD 1 where sooh was more feisty than I’ve seen her before. But we’ve really only played one game together so idk how useful it is. Someone, I think Dice or Zander said it was more likely to come from mafia!sooh?  But I also think i remember you saying sooh would rather be town, so I’m not sure where that leaves me. 

[TrippedOnReality]

2 hours ago, Zanatron said:

Tripped has looked good upon entry. 

 

@TrippedOnReality

 

Have i played against wolf you and if so what game?

No. I haven’t played with wolf!you. I did spectate a game a while ago where you were wolf and Chris and Kat were town. 

[Cass]

41 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

I just woke up but haven’t had a chance to read claimed yet. I haven’t seen much recent from Dice so that’s not helping at all. I think anyalignment!dice would probably town read town!Zander. I have no idea if Dice would town read teammate Zander, but part of me says probably not?  Idk how often town!dice has been wrong about any alignment!zander either. He seemed very convinced last game we played and he wasn’t wrong. 

 

i still don’t like that crusher was immediately pushing for me to vote Dice with minimal explanation. And when I asked him about team options, he never responded. I’m marginally confused because most of D1 people were reading crusher pretty favorably. So I’m not sure if it was just the way claims were handled that caused everyone to reconsider crusher or what happened there.  But at this point I’m leaning towards voting crusher, pending review of claims. 

 

Kk, morning :)

 

Feels to me like AJ's flip brought Crusher more into view, but I'll see what you think when you catch up.

 

 

[Cass]

18 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Idk. I liked her post about you being town, but I think sooh is probably a good enough player to say that as any alignment. I got into some posts between sooh and a few other people near EoD 1 where sooh was more feisty than I’ve seen her before. But we’ve really only played one game together so idk how useful it is. Someone, I think Dice or Zander said it was more likely to come from mafia!sooh?  But I also think i remember you saying sooh would rather be town, so I’m not sure where that leaves me. 

 

And this is my conundrum. 

 

I can't remember whether she prefers one or another, and I don't know if I've ever played in a game where she was Scum @Sooh ?

 

I need to get some sleep soon but I'm happy with Crush for today and have time tomorrow to read more "overnight" to try and differentiate between Z/Sooh  /Tripped

[Cass]

1 hour ago, dicetosser1 said:

this versions just for @Cass regarding tomorrow night.  Totally out of game

 

Just cos I think you're actually Blue/on the right track here doesn't mean I'm switching for Origin, stinky Roach. 

 

Still, I laughed :p

[TrippedOnReality]

Did sooh/zander have any notable interactions with dice/crusher that you can recall?  I thought I saw some comments about zander/Dice from right around when I subbed in. 

[Cass]

5 hours ago, Sooh said:

I’m just about ready to vote crusher now. Idk if the last would be z or tripped, but z’s rushing irked me. He would totally bus a wolfbro in that situation. 

 

That said i still want dice to comment on the post cass pointed out first that I also quoted. Im out for much of my day today shopping with my mom and won’t have the chance to look at the game much. 

 

Also a thing that might be positive for z is that he still doesn’t get the setup. There’s no town power that can block a cop, but we know there’s a protective town role, and with there also being a cop we have to be in the town cop, town doc, mafia roleblock setup. 

 

5 hours ago, Sooh said:

In my head right now it’s probably crusher/ tripped. Could be z, but more likely tripped imo. 

 

4 hours ago, Sooh said:

Ugh and now idk again. I took a shower and got to thinking about how Crusher pushed Kat on D1 and that would probably not be on a partner unless of course she asked to be pushed. 

 

Cass, if you have time today, can you look into the various worlds?

 

Crusher/Z

Crusher/Kat-trip

I guess also Crusher/me

 

and 

 

Dice/Z

Dice/Kat-trip 

Dice/me

 

If there's time before DL when I get back I'll do it myself, or definitely do it overnight when we know whether it's Dice or Crush. 

 

I think 

 

Crusher/Z - fits with Crusher's progression on Z (null -> least likely to vote,  and the vibe I get from the  " you're null on me??"-" well if you play like a ping-pong" posts between them. Also fits with Crusher not giving a read on Z after I asked for it multiple times,  even though her apparently would've had a clear read on me by then. 

 

Crusher/Kat-trip - same as you already highlighted, I don't think it would make sense for Scum!Crush to try and lynch Kat as hard as he did D1 if she we her partner,  unless she asked,  which,  I don't think she would?

 

I guess also Crusher/me

I need to re-read. D2 I thought I got an off feel from you ~leading him~ but this is when I was seeing connections between you and AJ 'distancing' I think you're a possibility of your own accord for NB/AJ and the thing with you and Crush today could be WW distancing, though am currently thinking it would be a pretty obscure WW plan for Crush to call you out as the last standing from AJ and NBs trains before start of day just so you can have something ready to distance with the next day. 

 

I think it would have to be something even more convoluted than that for WolfDice to back me like this D2 the way he did, but if Crush flips Town:

 

 

Dice/Z - possible / most likely

 

Dice/Kat-trip - I'd need to re-read. Soft defence of Dice by Kat, against Crush (though the same thing bugged me so ?)

 

Dice/Sooh - would have to have involved pretty strong possi-bus/distancing/ risk of train 10mm one b of you D1, which I don't think either of you would do (?)

[Cass]

22 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Did sooh/zander have any notable interactions with dice/crusher that you can recall?  I thought I saw some comments about zander/Dice from right around when I subbed in. 

 

See above for most of these

 

Crush-Zander are the most linked Imo

 

Zander-Dice is my tinfoils/deep fear, in case they're playing a massive jerk-Cass-around ploy, based on Dice's unchanging read of Z. It doesn't really make sense though. 

 

 

[Cass]

3 hours ago, Zanatron said:

 

My start yesterday was my attempt at pr cover as well as i wanted to see how you'd react to me hinting at it and guage your reaction.

 

Youve improved bit by bit as the games progressed.  Unfortunately my read is now entirely based on the Dice and Crush claims.

 

2. Ive answered this multiple times but your back and forth with him well it felt like distancing and it felt awkward.  The wheels on the bus etc. Lol

 

I didn't mention your thing yesterday, like I said, I think early claims just have the potential to give Scum extra info,  but you doing so now has me wtf/watching

 

Why is that unfortunate?

 

The question was why you came out the gate D2 shallowcalling me Wolfy AF etc and refusing to discuss.

[Cass]

And Z, I think half the problem Ice had with you this game is I haven't really seen/felt you considering my reactions at all, despite what you say - the only time you did was when I sus'd you for it, and you gave me the "I'm sorry" story, but nothing changed in practice,  or in tone. 

 

For example, why would you be looking to guage my reactions and simultaneously avoiding to talk with me and/or consider Dice's switch/ what he was saying?

[Cass]

It's nearly midnight and I'm rekt after work today. will nap til 2am, deadlines at our 3am. 

 

Crusher's response to Tripped's entry and the lack of return, gaps in his claim and tldr stuff in the ISOs p. much seals it all for me at this point and I'd be extremely surprised if it's not him. 

 

I don't see Dice scumming this boldly/ basing his D2 focus on a lock-clear-Town read in any case tbh

[Cass]

Also,  Town Z with a red claim on the board and the view that we had Scum lined up would normally be ecstatic with Dice or emphatically against him imo, not this weird rapid flatness at everyone, regardless of you feeling sick Imo xo

 

Back after naps 

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, TrippedOnReality said:

No. I haven’t played with wolf!you. I did spectate a game a while ago where you were wolf and Chris and Kat were town. 

 

No i was asking if we played a game where YOU were a Wolf and I wasn't.

 

TLDR- Do you have any Scum!You games on DM....and more specifically with me.

[Zander?]

2 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

so i wont be here for DL.

so heres what I want you to do

 

Hard Claim

 

 

LYNCH CRUSHER!!!!

 

Dice hardclaimed Cartman?!?!!??!?!

 

loloolololololol

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, TrippedOnReality said:

I just woke up but haven’t had a chance to read claimed yet. I haven’t seen much recent from Dice so that’s not helping at all. I think anyalignment!dice would probably town read town!Zander. I have no idea if Dice would town read teammate Zander, but part of me says probably not?  Idk how often town!dice has been wrong about any alignment!zander either. He seemed very convinced last game we played and he wasn’t wrong. 

 

i still don’t like that crusher was immediately pushing for me to vote Dice with minimal explanation. And when I asked him about team options, he never responded. I’m marginally confused because most of D1 people were reading crusher pretty favorably. So I’m not sure if it was just the way claims were handled that caused everyone to reconsider crusher or what happened there.  But at this point I’m leaning towards voting crusher, pending review of claims. 

 

Town!Dice has prolly a 90% or so success rate of reading me correctly.  

[TrippedOnReality]

7 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

No i was asking if we played a game where YOU were a Wolf and I wasn't.

 

TLDR- Do you have any Scum!You games on DM....and more specifically with me.

Oh. No. I haven’t been mafia on DM before.  

[Zander?]

20 minutes ago, Cass said:

And Z, I think half the problem Ice had with you this game is I haven't really seen/felt you considering my reactions at all, despite what you say - the only time you did was when I sus'd you for it, and you gave me the "I'm sorry" story, but nothing changed in practice,  or in tone. 

 

For example, why would you be looking to guage my reactions and simultaneously avoiding to talk with me and/or consider Dice's switch/ what he was saying?

 

11 minutes ago, Cass said:

Also,  Town Z with a red claim on the board and the view that we had Scum lined up would normally be ecstatic with Dice or emphatically against him imo, not this weird rapid flatness at everyone, regardless of you feeling sick Imo xo

 

Back after naps 

 

Your logic is somewhat understandable tho backward....im much more likely to comply with people as a Minority Villa as opposed to Town but I suppose im a tad bias here,

 

If youre actually a Villa please look at some of my most recent games.  You're basing your reads off of my previous Meta.  I work crazy hours now and I also have stuff in RL that makes me able to but Mafia on the back burner regardless.  Whether you do this or not and if we win or lose this game at least everyone will know going forward.

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Oh. No. I haven’t been mafia on DM before.  

 

ok tyvm.

 

was trying to remember any meta i had on you.  

[TrippedOnReality]

I’m out of time for today unless we get a weather delay and I magically have service. I expected more from Crusher if his claim was legit.  I’ll try to get more caught up tonight when I get back from the corn fields.

 

##vote:crusher 

[Zander?]

Just now, TrippedOnReality said:

I’m out of time for today unless we get a weather delay and I magically have service. I expected more from Crusher if his claim was legit.  I’ll try to get more caught up tonight when I get back from the corn fields.

 

##vote:crusher 

 

ive only been holding off voting to give you time.

 

So im good to vote then.

 

 

[Zander?]

##VOTECRUSHER