Little Miss Mafia [Basic] 9'er - Game Thread

[Sooh]

I can't sleep and I blame this game.

 

I know one thing. Regardless of anything, Cass is always town here. Both the real and the fake cop have peeked her as innocent, so that's a fact. 

 

I've been back to read Crusher's N2 as well, and again he doesn't mention Cass. From that first slight snipe at Dice about looking in his QT for her at the start of D2 he doesn't mention her at all. 

 

In the interest of how Crusher says he plays mafia it seems he looks for guilty peeks, and given his treatment of Dice on D2 I would have thought he might have looked there, though in terms of his overall content it makes sense that he looked at Nyn/Liz (but then again maybe not, because he does mention having both myself and Dice as people he would lynch before them, so idk). 

 

I can't parse at all why a cop wouldn't at least crumb a not guilty result, and I dont' really believe it.

 

10 hours ago, Zanatron said:

 

 

##vote crusher

Zander quotes two of my posts in this post before this vote. 

10 hours ago, Zanatron said:

I hadnit my head if Crusher was Scum, he was most likely Scum with Dice, and now Dice is Softing and its a red on Crush hes softing and FML...  is it some sort of down under connection...have i been too afraid to suss Sooh hard enough this game....Fml

Yet here he's talking about Dice's soft claim as a reason. 

 

Idk, it makes me kind of think that Z/Crusher makes sense as a team. Through the posts that I've read of Crusher also I can't remember seeing him talk about Z as anywhere near a scum read, but I'll have to go back tomorrow and see properly how the two treat one another.

 

 

And this post that you pointed out, Cass: 

4 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

was going to say i wanted it to go fast before kat got back but thats moot now

is giving me pause for 'gaming the mod' reasons, and I don't like it. 

 

That's where my head is at. And now I must try to sleep a bit again.

[Zander?]

Lol Sooh

[Zander?]

Ok we all know nows the time if theres a Town PR that makes Alignment Cop not work its time to let people know.  Thats THE ONLY REASON TO CLAIM with Dice being Cc'd by Crush.  I mean i have a hars time believing a Scum!Team if Dice AND Crush both fake claim there but man it would be a ballsy AF move.

 

@Cass

 

Dice couldnt have peeked me you and Crusher in 2 nights his read on me has to be an actually read.  Seer with N0 peeks tend to be known to players via the setup prior to start from all the times I've seen it anyways.

 

So if Dice is what he says.  And peeked who he peeked then its Crush and one of Sooh/Kat.  

 

The fact Soohs been ageewing with me a lot and how bad some of my reads have been make me doubt her.  (Admittedly im struggling with i think Kats more likely to drop out as Scum then Town but... FML)

 

Either way i just want this to be over.

 

[Zander?]

Sorry guys between not feeling the game and actually feeling sick in rl is dragging me down more.

 

Ill be around tomorrow to vote.  We'll give Tripped the time to get as much info in and then thoughta out as possible before rushing a hammer.

[Zander?]

I been enjoying the first season of Lost thus far tho admittedly ive doesd off through some not because they were bad just try to medicate through feeling like crap...lol.

[Zander?]

Ok well no ones around anyways so imma go back and try to crash. 

[Zander?]

Ok well no ones around anyways so imma go back and try to crash. 

[Zander?]

FML

[The Crusher]

21 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

FML

Feel better soon brother..

[Cass]

35 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

Ok we all know nows the time if theres a Town PR that makes Alignment Cop not work its time to let people know.  Thats THE ONLY REASON TO CLAIM with Dice being Cc'd by Crush.  I mean i have a hars time believing a Scum!Team if Dice AND Crush both fake claim there but man it would be a ballsy AF move.

 

@Cass

 

Dice couldnt have peeked me you and Crusher in 2 nights his read on me has to be an actually read.  Seer with N0 peeks tend to be known to players via the setup prior to start from all the times I've seen it anyways.

 

So if Dice is what he says.  And peeked who he peeked then its Crush and one of Sooh/Kat.  

 

The fact Soohs been ageewing with me a lot and how bad some of my reads have been make me doubt her.  (Admittedly im struggling with i think Kats more likely to drop out as Scum then Town but... FML)

 

Either way i just want this to be over.

 

I think I've only played with cops having n0

 

If that's not always a thing, then maybe you're less clear than I thought, looking at Dice's earlier posts this morning. 

 

But I'm not sure if you'd point this out as Wolf or just ride on it. 

 

GUT is screaming Dice IS Town here though, and the Scum team is you/Crush, with an outside chance at Sooh/Tripped.

 

My feels on you may have been influenced by your mood influencing your play, but I'm not sure. 

 

Based on just today, keeping in mind Wolves would be distancing and none of this is probably outside anyone here's Scum range, 

 

Sooh's play looks ~ good, with her approach to Crush and verifying his moves yesterday, moving read forward on me etc. Possible downside is the initial push for claims imo.

 

Need more from Tripped

 

Hope you feel better, if you're Majority Town you can be stoked that we're on the same team and likely got a Wolf!!!!!!! 

If you're Minority Town, lay down and know that it should all be over soon ?❤️

 

[Cass]

58 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

I been enjoying the first season of Lost thus far tho admittedly ive doesd off through some not because they were bad just try to medicate through feeling like crap...lol.

 

I never watched Lost, though I was keen cos everyone raved about it... but then I heard so many people WTH!!!! about the ending that it put me off when I finally had time for it. Lmk when you're done and get past the ending if I should go there or not ?

 

Tonight when I get home though, now that uni is done for the final trimester - WE'RE STARTING FINAL SEASON OF GoT!!!!!

[Cass]

33 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Feel better soon brother..

 

Any advice for the pt here?

[TrippedOnReality]

Still catching up, but I think I agree with Sooh's assessment that Cass is pretty much always town if both claims are saying Cass is town.

 

As for the N0 peeks, I think the OP said the cop didn't have N0 peeks?

 

And I feel like last game I played with Dice/Z, dice was pretty sold on Z being town relatively early on and was commenting on how well he reads Z so I don't think Dice would probably peek someone he thinks he can read if that's the case.

 

Trying to decide if wolf!zander would point that out or not.  I think possibly not?  I think wolf!zander might just take the town read and run with it rather than pointing out it's probably read and not an actual peek.  I suppose maybe if the team is Dice/Z that might be a thing that would happen since wolf!z would know that Dice's claim is fake, but i also feel like they probably would have set it up better than that.  

[Cass]

3 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Still catching up, but I think I agree with Sooh's assessment that Cass is pretty much always town if both claims are saying Cass is town.

 

As for the N0 peeks, I think the OP said the cop didn't have N0 peeks?

 

And I feel like last game I played with Dice/Z, dice was pretty sold on Z being town relatively early on and was commenting on how well he reads Z so I don't think Dice would probably peek someone he thinks he can read if that's the case.

 

Trying to decide if wolf!zander would point that out or not.  I think possibly not?  I think wolf!zander might just take the town read and run with it rather than pointing out it's probably read and not an actual peek.  I suppose maybe if the team is Dice/Z that might be a thing that would happen since wolf!z would know that Dice's claim is fake, but i also feel like they probably would have set it up better than that.  

 

P. much my thoughts on my Dice-Z tinfoil, except lolwtfaredetails me if OP says no n0

 

Where are you up to ITT?

 

Any of your own thoughts/feels on ppl's alignment?

[TrippedOnReality]

I got side tracked by work because people are stupid so I'm only in the 20s.  But i feel like Liz/Z slapfight was probably T/T, mostly because of how Z was trying to read around Liz by reading nyn instead.  I watched one game where Z was a wolf and he was significantly less confrontational so I don't really think he gets into a pointless argument about who voted who first and just keeps going down that path for little gain as a wolf and then tries to read around Liz anyway.  Like, it's way easier, if you're eventually going to town read that slot to not jump through the hoops he did to do it.  That said, idk what his read on that slot ends up being prior to the flip.

 

I think you're town for reasons stated above.  There is pretty much always at least one mafia between Crusher and Dice, but probably not both because that'd be kind of...well, not smart.

 

Which leaves me with Dice/Sooh and Crusher/Sooh.  But at least the last post I read from Sooh, i thought her tone seemed pretty good, and I liked her reasoning for calling you town.  So idk.  I feel like I'm misclearing one of Sooh/Zander, because I just don't think it's you and Crusher/Dice doesn't make any sense to me.   Maybe it will be more clear as I get more caught up.  

[Cass]

Kk

 

I'm back and forwards on Sooh/Zander myself. 

 

The Liz-Z thing _was_ weird for him to not follow through pushing the slot, but looks like they were fairly consensus after the spat /never getting lynched D1 so it would make sense for Wolf!Z to back off there. It was null-wolfish in tone for me for Zander, think you'll get to that thought process etc later,  I'll be interested to see what you think, whether I have blinkers on there. @dicetosser1 also your gut on this after thinking/ re read if you have time? 

 

Sooh pushing/sheeping my querying of Dice is so borderline for me, it looks ~bad for me atp with me pretty sure that Dice is Town, BUT I can see the angle behind it both ways so ? 

 

@Zanatron

Can you please explain to me:

 

1) What your thoughts/approach with me yesterday was (why you were flat calling me wolf and wouldn't really enter into discussion?) and how you are/would be reading me now without both Dice and Crush calling me Town?

 

2) Why vote AJ with me if you thought I was Wolfy?

[TrippedOnReality]

Alright, starting to get tired and I have to be up early tomorrow.   I'm on page ~40 and I'm not really loving the interaction between Z and AJ, especially knowing AJ is town.  I see Cass's point with so many people town reading the hydra slot by then where Z would basically have to pivot away from that otherwise it just looks really bad.  I feel like AJ was trying to get Z to respond to things, but wasn't getting the response he was looking for.   I can also see wolf!zander pushing town!aj as a deepwolf read just because i think enough people are probably justifiably paranoid of scum!AJ.  I thought AJ had a decent point on Zander that his reads were fairly shallow at the time.   Dice not being Dicey enough...Cass not being Cassy enough.  I don't really remember Zander complaining as much about not being able to read people in our last game, when there were a bunch of the same people in that game, but it's possible I'm misremembering.  I'll keep trying to read tomorrow.  I think the best option today is to lynch between Dice and Crusher regardless.  I should probably read more recent stuff about the claims tomorrow to see what makes the most sense to figure out where to put my vote before i go back and read older stuff again so I'll try to do that in the morning.    

[Cass]

I'm liking Tripped so far,  same caveats as above. 

 

Tripped, what's your own read on Dice And Crusher?

 

FWIW I do not see Dice being Scum this game. We're friends IRL as well as here, and I'm pretty clear now on this being PRTown him style early to avoid too much attention, and especially following N1.

 

There is no way we should be lunching him today. 

[Cass]

Also @TrippedOnReality (after sleep)

 

Thoughts on Sooh?

 

[Sooh]

I’m just about ready to vote crusher now. Idk if the last would be z or tripped, but z’s rushing irked me. He would totally bus a wolfbro in that situation. 

 

That said i still want dice to comment on the post cass pointed out first that I also quoted. Im out for much of my day today shopping with my mom and won’t have the chance to look at the game much. 

 

Also a thing that might be positive for z is that he still doesn’t get the setup. There’s no town power that can block a cop, but we know there’s a protective town role, and with there also being a cop we have to be in the town cop, town doc, mafia roleblock setup. 

[Sooh]

In my head right now it’s probably crusher/ tripped. Could be z, but more likely tripped imo. 

[Sooh]

Ugh and now idk again. I took a shower and got to thinking about how Crusher pushed Kat on D1 and that would probably not be on a partner unless of course she asked to be pushed. 

 

Cass, if you have time today, can you look into the various worlds?

 

Crusher/Z

Crusher/Kat-trip

I guess also Crusher/me

 

and 

 

Dice/Z

Dice/Kat-trip 

Dice/me

 

If there's time before DL when I get back I'll do it myself, or definitely do it overnight when we know whether it's Dice or Crush. 

[Sooh]

2 hours ago, Cass said:

I'm liking Tripped so far,  same caveats as above. 

 

Tripped, what's your own read on Dice And Crusher?

 

FWIW I do not see Dice being Scum this game. We're friends IRL as well as here, and I'm pretty clear now on this being PRTown him style early to avoid too much attention, and especially following N1.

 

There is no way we should be lunching him today. 

I tend to very much agree with you, there's just one little snag holding me back, and idk if I should ignore it or what.

 

Probably best to let this one go as close to DL as possible so that Tripped can catch up anyway.

[Zander?]

5 hours ago, Cass said:

Kk

 

I'm back and forwards on Sooh/Zander myself. 

 

The Liz-Z thing _was_ weird for him to not follow through pushing the slot, but looks like they were fairly consensus after the spat /never getting lynched D1 so it would make sense for Wolf!Z to back off there. It was null-wolfish in tone for me for Zander, think you'll get to that thought process etc later,  I'll be interested to see what you think, whether I have blinkers on there. @dicetosser1 also your gut on this after thinking/ re read if you have time? 

 

Sooh pushing/sheeping my querying of Dice is so borderline for me, it looks ~bad for me atp with me pretty sure that Dice is Town, BUT I can see the angle behind it both ways so ? 

 

@Zanatron

Can you please explain to me:

 

1) What your thoughts/approach with me yesterday was (why you were flat calling me wolf and wouldn't really enter into discussion?) and how you are/would be reading me now without both Dice and Crush calling me Town?

 

2) Why vote AJ with me if you thought I was Wolfy?

 

My start yesterday was my attempt at pr cover as well as i wanted to see how you'd react to me hinting at it and guage your reaction.

 

Youve improved bit by bit as the games progressed.  Unfortunately my read is now entirely based on the Dice and Crush claims.

 

2. Ive answered this multiple times but your back and forth with him well it felt like distancing and it felt awkward.  The wheels on the bus etc. Lol

[Zander?]

Tripped has looked good upon entry. 

 

@TrippedOnReality

 

Have i played against wolf you and if so what game?