Little Miss Mafia [Basic] 9'er - Game Thread

[Lizabeth]

42 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

In a universe where Sooh is scum (I know this disagrees with your worldview currently) who is her partner?

 

Is Zander actually scum here? Cause I can’t decide tbh.

 

Will you vote me?

I could see scum!Sooh with you, zander, crusher, kat (if I'm including kat in a world where she's potentially scum). I don't think she's likely partnered with cass, but that's not outside of the realm of possibility either. The one game where I played against scum!Sooh, Nyn basically early bussed her on D2 and went on to win the game. I'm not sure what Sooh's attitude towards bussing is. I don't think dice puts sooh in danger on d1 the way he did if he's her partner.

 

I don't know if Zander's scum. I don't think he's out of his scum range, but supposedly he thinks he is. I'd like a more solid answer from him on why he thinks he's out of his scum range this game ( @Zanatron).

 

But tbf, I don't think anyone is probably out of their scum game this game. And I'm not trying to be mean about it, i get that rl is a thing, but it doesn't feel like town is going out of its way to town tell this game, which makes it a very easy game for competent scum to get by in. And I think that everyone here is pretty competent as scum. (That's a gentle "please start town-telling your pretty patooties off please, dear townspeople!)

 

Anyway, as for Zander, I've just not been liking a lot of his focus and pushes so far this game. I know town!Zander gets stuck in minutiae and tunnels, but even his tunnels don't seem like his heart is behind them. It's reminding me of bwn/penguins from PerC and his tendency to argue for the sake of arguing when he's scum.

 

And as for your suicidal tendencies....I'm not really sure what that's about. Like, regardless of your alignment it does not make sense to me. I had a guess when you did it with Zander yesterday, but you doing it today just makes me >.>

 

I'm guessing you're not willing to explain why you're doing this though.

[Lizabeth]

7 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Between cass and sooh it feels like your suss has been more pronounced on cass. Why are you voting sooh?

Nyn, help me out with Zander?

 

What's your current read on him. I'll sheep you on that one for today.

[Andrej]

8 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

Between cass and sooh it feels like your suss has been more pronounced on cass. Why are you voting sooh?

 

Cause she’s the more likely wolf imo. Cass is owning her suspicion at least, coming at me head on. Sooh floundered to vote anyone yesterday when I asked and then gloms on to my wagon after Cass starts it. Little questioning towards me after apparently thinking I was more townie before EOD yesterday. Just looks like a shadowy neutral figure right now to me, and it even looks like she’s setting up Cass for the next Day.

 

If she isn’t and Cass isn’t then just lolme cause then things get really hard.

[Andrej]

Simple answer is that I want out tbh. If it helps to make a clearer picture and maybe bring some people to the forefront after slimy spooky AJ is gone then let’s do it lol. Seriously. My equity is gone and I do not have the energy or time to invest like I have in the past and frankly I’m just not going to put myself thru the stress of thunder doming with someone across pages or whatever to get back in good standings.

[Andrej]

This is a game of Guess Who on the Internet. Like let’s keep that in perspective. There’s no hard feelings.

[Lizabeth]

5 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Simple answer is that I want out tbh. If it helps to make a clearer picture and maybe bring some people to the forefront after slimy spooky AJ is gone then let’s do it lol. Seriously. My equity is gone and I do not have the energy or time to invest like I have in the past and frankly I’m just not going to put myself thru the stress of thunder doming with someone across pages or whatever to get back in good standings.

 

Is it selfish of me if I don't want you out if you're town?

 

Would you do this if you were scum?

[Andrej]

4 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

 

Is it selfish of me if I don't want you out if you're town?

 

Would you do this if you were scum?

 

Sure, if the situation required it maybe. Why do you think nobody trusts me half the time lol

 

very selfish ? 

[Zander?]

1 hour ago, Lizabeth said:

 

One reason you give me pause is that in your original response to my probe you said you'd have to compare sooh's play this game to her meta. How do you plan to do that if you're not planning on reading old games? 

 

 

I'm confused...you think cass is wrong about aj being scum, but aj is in your bottom 3?

 

 

Do you feel that sooh has been oily this game? 

 

See my response to him above. 

 

 

Ok. What makes you think those two are likely teamed? Us aj likely to make a strong stance on bussing a teammate early on d2? (E.g. saying that pretty almost nothing would move him off that vote?)

 

 

I assume you meant to type Ontarian.

 

*sips latte*

I think you posted that after i asked the question. I'm not a time traveler, dammit!

 

This actually feels better to me coming from crusher. 

 

 

I'm not stuck on crusher. I just don't believe in letting sleeping stones lie unturned! 

 

 

Lol

 

You are a big deal. That's why I'm interested in probing you ?

 

 

I don't like this...

 

 

*squish!*

 

Nope the ninja posts and my comments on them occured before you asked about them. i hope you choke on your latte Ontarion snob!!!!!

 

Lololololol 

[Zander?]

@Lizabeth

 

Irt scum range.   Its more that theres certain people i feel know how to read my well.  AJ is one of those players.  In this game I'd include Nyn and Dice for sure.  

[Lizabeth]

10 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Sure, if the situation required it maybe. Why do you think nobody trusts me half the time lol

 

very selfish ? 

 

Just from an academic perspective, what sort of situations would you consider to fit as requiring it?

 

6 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

Nope the ninja posts and my comments on them occured before you asked about them. i hope you choke on your latte Ontarion snob!!!!!

 

Lololololol 

 

That's so racist

[Lizabeth]

4 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

@Lizabeth

 

Irt scum range.   Its more that theres certain people i feel know how to read my well.  AJ is one of those players.  In this game I'd include Nyn and Dice for sure.  

Okay. I guess that's fair.

 

Thanks.

 

What do you think of AJ's suicide wish?

[Andrej]

This one 

[Lizabeth]

Just now, Andrej said:

This one 

lol thanks

[Lizabeth]

Why is this situation one that would require you to do this as scum?

[Cass]

 

1 hour ago, Lizabeth said:

 

I'm confused...you think cass is wrong about aj being scum, but aj is in your bottom 3?

Actually, this is a good question. @dicetosser1

?

 

1 hour ago, Lizabeth said:

 

Do you feel that sooh has been oily this game? 

 

See my response to him above. 

I'm back and forth tbh - the Dice thing yesterday was a bit snippy/possi-opportunistic like I said, but also not entirely unjustified

 

Wanna see how Dice answers the above

 

1 hour ago, Lizabeth said:

 

Ok. What makes you think those two are likely teamed? Us aj likely to make a strong stance on bussing a teammate early on d2? (E.g. saying that pretty almost nothing would move him off that vote?)

 

 

I assume you meant to type Ontarian.

 

*sips latte*

I think you posted that after i asked the question. I'm not a time traveler, dammit!

 

This actually feels better to me coming from crusher. 

 

 

I'm not stuck on crusher. I just don't believe in letting sleeping stones lie unturned! 

 

 

Lol

 

You are a big deal. That's why I'm interested in probing you ?

 

 

I don't like this...

 

 

*squish!*

 

Lol'd 

 

I ❤️ you

[Lizabeth]

1 minute ago, Cass said:

 

Actually, this is a good question. @dicetosser1

?

 

I'm back and forth tbh - the Dice thing yesterday was a bit snippy/possi-opportunistic like I said, but also not entirely unjustified

 

Wanna see how Dice answers the above

 

 

Lol'd 

 

I ❤️ you

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I love you too

 

Where is your head at on AJ at the moment. Also, do you feel as though you read Zander well?

 

Other than me/Nyn, who do you feel best about and who do you feel worst about?

[Lizabeth]

@Andrej, I'm not committing to lynching or not lynching you today, but would you honour my request of giving us as much prime!AJ as you can muster until the end of day at minimum? 

 

If you're scum, I' prefer the challenge. If you're town, I prefer the help ❤️

[Cass]

 

1 hour ago, Andrej said:

 

Regardless of your conf bias right now look at Sooh pretty hard after this. You’ll have two dead townies with her vote on them.

 

1 hour ago, Andrej said:

 

In a universe where Sooh is scum (I know this disagrees with your worldview currently) who is her partner?

 

Is Zander actually scum here? Cause I can’t decide tbh.

 

Will you vote me?

 

48 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Between cass and sooh it feels like your suss has been more pronounced on cass. Why are you voting sooh?

 

Nyyyyynnnnnn!!!!!! ❤️

 

 

42 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

I could see scum!Sooh with you, zander, crusher, kat (if I'm including kat in a world where she's potentially scum). I don't think she's likely partnered with cass, but that's not outside of the realm of possibility either. The one game where I played against scum!Sooh, Nyn basically early bussed her on D2 and went on to win the game. I'm not sure what Sooh's attitude towards bussing is. I don't think dice puts sooh in danger on d1 the way he did if he's her partner.

 

I don't know if Zander's scum. I don't think he's out of his scum range, but supposedly he thinks he is. I'd like a more solid answer from him on why he thinks he's out of his scum range this game ( @Zanatron).

 

But tbf, I don't think anyone is probably out of their scum game this game. And I'm not trying to be mean about it, i get that rl is a thing, but it doesn't feel like town is going out of its way to town tell this game, which makes it a very easy game for competent scum to get by in. And I think that everyone here is pretty competent as scum. (That's a gentle "please start town-telling your pretty patooties off please, dear townspeople!)

 

Anyway, as for Zander, I've just not been liking a lot of his focus and pushes so far this game. I know town!Zander gets stuck in minutiae and tunnels, but even his tunnels don't seem like his heart is behind them. It's reminding me of bwn/penguins from PerC and his tendency to argue for the sake of arguing when he's scum.

 

And as for your suicidal tendencies....I'm not really sure what that's about. Like, regardless of your alignment it does not make sense to me. I had a guess when you did it with Zander yesterday, but you doing it today just makes me >.>

 

I'm guessing you're not willing to explain why you're doing this though.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Simple answer is that I want out tbh. If it helps to make a clearer picture and maybe bring some people to the forefront after slimy spooky AJ is gone then let’s do it lol. Seriously. My equity is gone and I do not have the energy or time to invest like I have in the past and frankly I’m just not going to put myself thru the stress of thunder doming with someone across pages or whatever to get back in good standings.

 

Tbh, there's no way TownAJ  asks to be voted here

Only time I've ever seen him do it was Scum, with the DM curse

And I know how that feels, so  ❤️ if that's the case

[Lizabeth]

4 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

 

 

 

Nyyyyynnnnnn!!!!!! ❤️

 

 

 

 

 

Tbh, there's no way TownAJ  asks to be voted here

Only time I've ever seen him do it was Scum, with the DM curse

And I know how that feels, so  ❤️ if that's the case

What happened when he did it before?

[Cass]

Ok, I gotta go home to bed, nearly 4am 

 

@Lizabeth

I've given pretty much all the thoughts I can at this stage

 

fwiw

 

NO lynching Hydra/Zander today

 

Dice probably town, caveat-tinfoils now, wanna see his response to the above, tho I thought the tone of the original post fit TownDice, wanna see if his response matches. 

 

Really don't see AJ being Town here/gonna have egg alllllllll over my face if I'm wrong. <.<

 

/out with family tomorrow, like I said 

 

Night all

 

 

[Andrej]

14 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

@Andrej, I'm not committing to lynching or not lynching you today, but would you honour my request of giving us as much prime!AJ as you can muster until the end of day at minimum? 

 

If you're scum, I' prefer the challenge. If you're town, I prefer the help ❤️

 

You got what you got, sorry. I’ve got stuff to do anyway and building is much more therapeutic than fussing over a game lol

 

Best pick right now is Sooh, after that no clue honestly.

[Cass]

1 minute ago, Lizabeth said:

What happened when he did it before?

 

I don't know if I was in the game or just half-watching, but my take on it was he had wolf-burnout and had a cranky EMO like I'd never seen him do, and would hope that his stance today means he's not as frustrated and taking it to heart if he's been caught.

 

Here I don't think he's cranky today, which tbh I think Town AJ would be fiery in this sitch.

 

Yesterday his cranky/doing things he didn't want to do makes sense from a Wolf  annoyed with slow-thread state and and a tie on him at one point, with his vote on me not gaining traction?

 

Also, Sooh was the first on NB, after NB voted Zander in response to your post, but her reasoning on that was a bit <.< considering she'd been pushing Z a bit too? Idk

 

@Sooh ?

[Sooh]

3 hours ago, Cass said:

Why do you think he might be refusing to answer? My take is that there's two roles in the game that have the ability to watch peeps, and that might go some way towards explaining his snap change on me? If he's PR and was gonna check someone I'd probably expect it to be me tbh

 

Does that help?

I don't know that what he did answer would suggest PR. He said something to the effect of "You've read the same things I have today", which would suggest to me that he has seen something in your posting today that has helped his conclusion. Also I was obviously not asking so that I could sheep his read. I was asking so that I could read him. Otherwise have to agree with AJ about PR talk.

3 hours ago, Andrej said:

The idea of Sooh being scum seems pretty plausible to me now after she didn’t vote yesterday when prodded then had no problem lumping in on me when she got the chance.

 

Cass/Sooh?

 

Sooh/Crusher has some equity maybe.

Excuse me? I did vote yesterday. I was on NB with you at EOD. 

[Lizabeth]

Okay fine.

 

@Nynaveve do you want to vote AJ?

[Cass]

❤️ really out

 

And might not be around for EoD tomorrow, it depends on the fam 

 

Night