You're In Good Hands: The Beau Tomteer Law Firm Mafia GAME THREAD

[Cass]

5 hours ago, Katiora said:

*can't catch scum in a lie

 

"the votes don't mean crap out of context of the people's thoughts. and you can catch scum in a lie after everyone knows the flip. they can make excuses. " 

 

There's still been discussions about who people are WTL etc? Even if Scum could switch and lie, the votes still count - how do you normally "catch scum in a lie" if not by examining and questioning their discussions etc? That's a serious question, especially since the fact lamenting the setup is a large focus of your posts.

 

I've seen two instances of such discussion from you so far really - asking Darc why they had Seph so low (at a point where you had him in your lowest tier, but also liked his posts), and asking if Halli would put a scum-buddy in her initial Towny leans. 

 

Chris mentioned you're the anti-Zander post wise, but I really need to try and understand you if you're Town here today, so please discuss as much as you can, give alllll the thoughts and highlight allll the things that stand out to you.

 

There are a few questions I tagged/ quoted you in that you never answered, and you have had zero observations, comments or defence on my points against you yesterday, for starters?

[Cass]

4 hours ago, Lenlo said:

Im tryin to think.

 

Nice vote. Absolves you of all responsibility since you apparently had no idea they were locked ?

 

So you have a read on me... now? Didn't you go almost the whole game with no read on me, and now at lylo you suddenly have one?

 

The safest play in my mind is Kat, cause what are the odds this ^ comes from a villager, but all that will do is hold us for another day until we have to make another crapshoot choice. Odds are if Darc isn't the wolf, they will be alive on the last day just to win via inactivity. Its a shitty way to win, but it is a win. If he his a wolf though that means he is submitting NK's and stuff and just ignoring the thread. They were last online 21 hours ago so that is not outside the realm of possibility.

 

To me the wolf team is either Kat/AJ or Kat/Darc

 

Either way Kat is a wolf.

 

How is AJ/ anyone suddenly a 'crapshoot choice' for you?

[Lenlo]

9 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

How is AJ/ anyone suddenly a 'crapshoot choice' for you?

Well, if you read on, I decided to follow through on yesterdays decision.

 

And aside from AJ its a crapshoot because Darc hasn't done enough to actually warrant a read. Personally, I am committing to the Kat/AJ wolf team at this point. Thats my bet.

[darc-star]

On 12/13/2018 at 2:14 PM, Andrej said:

 

? ?

 

funny how the two people you have the most team equity with are ranked behind me, and I have been the main focus of your attention for the majority of the game.

 

 

This can literally be said about anymore. What proves you as Town? Why haven’t you been killed yet?

 

This is a convenient narrative to abuse when the fact of the matter is that scum have been shooting anyone elected and not just making strong player kills. But obviously that hurts your position so I don’t expect you to acknowledge that.

 

phew, ok, this is everything from last phase

 

aj, from this, can i presume that youre at least leaning scum on len?

ot really seen you outright suspect him, but if you feel that hes twisting stuff for his own narrative, why do you think that is?

 

On 12/14/2018 at 2:23 PM, Cass said:

Sorry all, the rest of last night's shift rekt me - went straight to bed and today has been hectic.

 

FWiW entire KAT ISO - yw

 

thanks

i know im in little position to talk, but the beginning especially was a lot of nothing and hedging

has she actually given a read on aj yet? other than *wanting* to trust him because he can be good town...

 

On 12/14/2018 at 11:04 PM, Lenlo said:

Because if we do the Kat push, it proves nothing. Nyn was his suggestion and his push. That puts it on him. If Nyn dies, then I get shot for the NK, then it obviously becomes AJ/Kat. It lines it up perfectly for you for the L-1 days Cass. 

 

As for outting myself, I know im not a wolf, but the argument is that if I go against my word and accuse AJ then I am "clearly a wolf". I know I won't do that, so its not a problem for me to make that statement. Im just covering bases.

 

i dont like this whole "if my choice goes wrong, its all ajs fault"

if you were suspecting kat, why not just go there and see if people join you or not? why did this have to be *surprise surprise* all about aj

there are other players, you dont have to pick around aj, and who cares if aj, as one player, doesnt support your choice? there were others (notably cass) willing to support a kat lynch, and if you believed in it so much, then you just needed to case her and you could get more support... like, i dunno why youd choose to team up with you strongest scum read, or how likely you thought youd be hitting their teammate by doing so...

you thought/think aj and kat are teamed, wouldnt lynching kat help prove just as much? except... if you went for kat and she didnt flip scum, you wouldnt have any way to push ajs lynch based on that.... feels like you purposefully didnt go for kat to keep that possibility open?

 

(sorry, thats probably all a mess of thoughts in no particular order, kept thinking of new things that bugged me)

 

On 12/15/2018 at 4:33 AM, Nynaeve said:

Fact of the matter is dice got chosen to accuse at least partly because he was gunning for me. No one expected him to switch because he was stuck on tunnel vision irt me. But he was smart enough to see past it.... so the good news is he's not zander lol... but it could have been even cooler if he ended up nailing scum in the process. I really did think he had a gotcha moment with seph.

 

not true... i think...

i, at least, was supporting dice from the day before because he was the only other person who saw what i saw in seph

you were possibly my second choice so i was still happy with him, but i guess i was wrong on both of you

 

On 12/15/2018 at 11:48 AM, Cass said:

FWIW - TOWN!KAT Sample (Got as far as first ~50 posts)

 

Feeling more outward focused/direct/hunty imo

 

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On 12/15/2018 at 11:54 AM, Cass said:

Scum!Kat (Tarmon Gaidon ISO)

 

Feels similar to here in self-focus/lower mood/ATE imo

 

- For reference D1 her scum buddy Hallian was getting lynched, after that Zander tunneled on her like only Zander can til she ended and Cory came in as a replacement to lol til the death.

 

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thanks for those as well

agreed that shes much more game focused and interactive in the first set

and that, especially in the beginning, shes very "i hate d1" focused in the second

but she does still provide a lot of game related stuff in the second too, possibly more than here

i will admit though that i only read the first few quotes carefully, getting more and more skimmy as i went, and i didnt even touch the second half of each set >.<

 

[Lenlo]

3 minutes ago, darc-star said:

i dont like this whole "if my choice goes wrong, its all ajs fault"

if you were suspecting kat, why not just go there and see if people join you or not? why did this have to be *surprise surprise* all about aj

there are other players, you dont have to pick around aj, and who cares if aj, as one player, doesnt support your choice? there were others (notably cass) willing to support a kat lynch, and if you believed in it so much, then you just needed to case her and you could get more support... like, i dunno why youd choose to team up with you strongest scum read, or how likely you thought youd be hitting their teammate by doing so...

you thought/think aj and kat are teamed, wouldnt lynching kat help prove just as much? except... if you went for kat and she didnt flip scum, you wouldnt have any way to push ajs lynch based on that.... feels like you purposefully didnt go for kat to keep that possibility open?

 

(sorry, thats probably all a mess of thoughts in no particular order, kept thinking of new things that bugged me)

 

 

The whole idea was I was willing to give the slot one more chance in case I was wrong, because I suck at this game. I chose to do so when we had more room to be risky about it. The team, to me at that time, was 2 within AJ/Nyn/Kat. If Nyn flipped wolf, from AJ pushin her, then I was comfortable letting one of the only active players in the game live to help me scum hunt because no one else was around. If I had other options of an active team, then maybe I would have pushed the AJ lynch regardless. Fact is though, at the time, we were a majority of the activity with Cass being the next runner up. You/Nyn/Kat/Illian were AWOL.

 

So no, lynching Kat would have proven nothing on AJ's alignment. Nyn would have still been around. Your acting like Kat was my big lynch goal, and it wasn't. My goal was to resolve AJ's slot one way or the other. And I have. I am 100% certain he is a wolf at this point. There is no more second guessing or doubt on my part there.

[Cass]

1 hour ago, Lenlo said:

Well, if you read on, I decided to follow through on yesterdays decision.

 

And aside from AJ its a crapshoot because Darc hasn't done enough to actually warrant a read. Personally, I am committing to the Kat/AJ wolf team at this point. Thats my bet.

 

I did read on,  and have zero problems/at this point support the idea of you following through maybe even more than I do you jumping onto Kat. Just that in my re-read, the fact that you say "The safest play in my mind is Kat, cause what are the odds this ^ comes from a villager, but all that will do is hold us for another day until we have to make another crapshoot choice" stood out. 

 

I read that as "shooting Kat probably gets us a wolf, but then we'll have another crapshoot choice"

 

- if you're so strongly thinking AJ's wolf, how would the choice after Kat be 'crapshoot'?

[Lenlo]

1 minute ago, Cass said:

 

I did read on,  and have zero problems/at this point support the idea of you following through maybe even more than I do you jumping onto Kat. Just that in my re-read, the fact that you say "The safest play in my mind is Kat, cause what are the odds this ^ comes from a villager, but all that will do is hold us for another day until we have to make another crapshoot choice" stood out. 

 

I read that as "shooting Kat probably gets us a wolf, but then we'll have another crapshoot choice"

 

- if you're so strongly thinking AJ's wolf, how would the choice after Kat be 'crapshoot'?

Because at that time I was still deciding where I was on the whole follow through? Like... that post where I say Kat/AJ? Thats the same moment I decide "Yeah Len, you were right, lets commit to this 100%".

 

This post your so hung up on? That was made when I was like "Is it Kat/AJ or Kat/Darc? Is this just a wolf team of inactives? But the NKs have been coming out and are smart so that seems ridiculous."

[darc-star]

9 hours ago, Katiora said:

.... I honestly think it's Darc... got in every one's good graces and has been almost completely silent since.

 

again, i apologise

i know i often peter out as scum because its more difficult for me to fake stuff, but i dont think ive ever just not been around (except one game where i was town, the week leading up to my wedding)

 

9 hours ago, Cass said:

Still a possibility, and @darc-star where did you gooo?

We need waaaaaaaaay more input from you this phase please!

Where are you at, leans wise?

Thoughts since yesterday?
@Katiora

 

leans wise, youre pretty much my only town read

starting to get worried about len, still think kat is likely scum

aj is probably not scum with len, and i understand his thoughts better than i do lens

if it is aj and len, then we're screwed... dunno if i trust either to decide today, just in case

 

6 hours ago, Lenlo said:

The safest play in my mind is Kat, cause what are the odds this ^ comes from a villager, but all that will do is hold us for another day until we have to make another crapshoot choice. Odds are if Darc isn't the wolf, they will be alive on the last day just to win via inactivity. Its a shitty way to win, but it is a win. If he his a wolf though that means he is submitting NK's and stuff and just ignoring the thread. They were last online 21 hours ago so that is not outside the realm of possibility.

 

To me the wolf team is either Kat/AJ or Kat/Darc

 

Either way Kat is a wolf.

 

im usually left alive most of the game for that exact reason, but last game phase was unusual, even for me

 

 

3 hours ago, Lenlo said:

Orly? Cause I wanted Nyn to be a wolf. I wanted to be wrong about your slot. Its why I tried to be reasonable with you yesterday instead of drowning the thread in calls for your death.

 

I could have easily accused you last night AJ, and everyone probably would have voted yes. If your town, in what world does not accusing or NKing you last night end well for me, when I inevitably have to take you on in an argument at LyLo?

 

Suffice to say, that would be a stupid plan. Thats not even a gamble or some risky play. Its just stupid. Because at this point in the game, wolves don't need stupid plans to win. They just need to stay the course.

 

That your trying to turn this around with such a weak argument? Its crap.

 

if youre scum, why wouldnt keeping the only person you seem to be willing to actually lynch around be good?

say youre teamed with kat, and shes your second choice, youd have no choice but to push her next if aj is dead

and you already said last phase that if you broke your promise and accused aj, thatd be outing you, so why wuld people follow?

 

10 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

The whole idea was I was willing to give the slot one more chance in case I was wrong, because I suck at this game. I chose to do so when we had more room to be risky about it. The team, to me at that time, was 2 within AJ/Nyn/Kat. If Nyn flipped wolf, from AJ pushin her, then I was comfortable letting one of the only active players in the game live to help me scum hunt because no one else was around. If I had other options of an active team, then maybe I would have pushed the AJ lynch regardless. Fact is though, at the time, we were a majority of the activity with Cass being the next runner up. You/Nyn/Kat/Illian were AWOL.

 

So no, lynching Kat would have proven nothing on AJ's alignment. Nyn would have still been around. Your acting like Kat was my big lynch goal, and it wasn't. My goal was to resolve AJ's slot one way or the other. And I have. I am 100% certain he is a wolf at this point. There is no more second guessing or doubt on my part there.

 

you keep saying you suck at this game... why do you think so? is tunneling a common problem for you? and if so, are you usually correct?

you seem to be doubting yourself whenever you say that, but youve kept to the same reads

 

i get that you wanted to find away to keep an active player around (last game i was in they lynched the *only* active player d1 for no reason, then killed me for being the only person opposing that, guess who won -.-), so yea, im ignoring the fact that you didnt choose your top scum read

 

but my point was that if you thought kat was more likely to be the next best choice, why go for nyn instead?

you still seemed to be wanting to prove aj as scum more than finding him to be town, so you choosing the person that he was happy with lynching is just... =/

 

finding kat to be scum when you thought scum!aj was covering her would definitely say something about his alignment, so i disagree that it would have proven nothing

but i also disagree with the main point of your choice being more to figure out aj than to lynch scum

 

[Cass]

On 12/8/2018 at 3:42 AM, Lenlo said:

 

Im... not pairing you together? Your both just wolf-reads right now. The top ones I am willing to lynch. Im not making a case that your on the same team. I will re-evaluate everything once another wolf flips. As of right now, I think your both the most likely wolves out there.

 

I appreciate the pop in comment on it though. Maybe give some of your own thoughts though instead of hedging?

 

On 12/8/2018 at 3:45 AM, Katiora said:

Maybe read the rest of my post where I actually put some thoughts instead of just picking out the one part where I didn't? 

 

On 12/8/2018 at 3:54 AM, Lenlo said:

Considering the part I commented on was at the end, I would have to read the rest to get down to it.

 

All you do in that post is A) Explaining why you didn't lynch D1. and B) Comment on Penguins lynch while non-commitally referencing a possible Nyn lynch. 

 

You arnt pushing anything. You arnt casing anything. You hedged on Nyn through that entire post. I stand by what I said.

 

Was/am thinking this ^ would be ?too feisty for WW

It didn't go any further though, and Kat followed with  a 'probably Town' read on Lenlo.

 

On 12/8/2018 at 6:36 AM, Andrej said:

 

Do you think Len is Town?

 

Why'd you ask it like this, AJ?

 

 

[Cass]

On 12/14/2018 at 11:33 PM, Cass said:

..

 

If you have to make a call one way or another, how are you reading Lenlo, AJ?

 

Many lines in your back and forth sound like you're calling him/his push out as Scum (eg. "whatever helps your position"/"you're trying to set this fearmongering narrative"/it's "perfect partner placement"/comparisons with previous Scum game)?

 

This pretty much still applies to today's phase so far - @Andrej

 

Who are you thinking to vote for Accuser?

[Cass]

11 hours ago, Andrej said:

Did you realize today was Lylo before you voted?

 

also, Tripped and others were saying how Darc tapers off a lot towards the end of the game. They barely posted at all D4 and still a no show now, so yeah, I can see your point there.

 

Doomsday scenario for me would be Cass/Darc but I don’t think it’s Cass at this point unless she just really gambled that Town would lynch Seph/Nyn without her.

 

Honestly I’m sort of petered out at this point. My last class is tonight and I’ve spent the majority of the weekend finishing up papers and stuff.

 

Not game related, but what class? *curious*

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Cass (1) - Kat

 

Votes are locked!

[Cass]

4 hours ago, darc-star said:

 

phew, ok, this is everything from last phase

 

aj, from this, can i presume that youre at least leaning scum on len?

ot really seen you outright suspect him, but if you feel that hes twisting stuff for his own narrative, why do you think that is?

 

@darc-star - what was the beginning of the bold sentence supposed to be?

 

4 hours ago, darc-star said:

 

thanks

i know im in little position to talk, but the beginning especially was a lot of nothing and hedging

has she actually given a read on aj yet? other than *wanting* to trust him because he can be good town...

 

From what I understand, most of Kat's D1s are hedging and she often balances her reads with consideration for other possibilities - this is a thought process I understand, and I'm not sure that it's AI for her. 

 

4 hours ago, darc-star said:

 

i dont like this whole "if my choice goes wrong, its all ajs fault"

if you were suspecting kat, why not just go there and see if people join you or not? why did this have to be *surprise surprise* all about aj

there are other players, you dont have to pick around aj, and who cares if aj, as one player, doesnt support your choice? there were others (notably cass) willing to support a kat lynch, and if you believed in it so much, then you just needed to case her and you could get more support... like, i dunno why youd choose to team up with you strongest scum read, or how likely you thought youd be hitting their teammate by doing so...

you thought/think aj and kat are teamed, wouldnt lynching kat help prove just as much? except... if you went for kat and she didnt flip scum, you wouldnt have any way to push ajs lynch based on that.... feels like you purposefully didnt go for kat to keep that possibility open?

 

(sorry, thats probably all a mess of thoughts in no particular order, kept thinking of new things that bugged me)

 

Mess of thoughts or not, many of these mirror my own reactions. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how it might come from a Towny process.

 

 

4 hours ago, darc-star said:

not true... i think...

i, at least, was supporting dice from the day before because he was the only other person who saw what i saw in seph

you were possibly my second choice so i was still happy with him, but i guess i was wrong on both of you

 

So did you trust Dice was Town? How well do you two read each other, generally?

This was wrt Nyn saying part of the reason Dice got elected was likely because he was gunning for her. Why'd you respond to this now? With Nyn/Seph/Dice all out of the game?

 

[Cass]

@darc-star

Who are you leaning towards voting for Accuser today?

[Cass]

5 hours ago, Lenlo said:

The whole idea was I was willing to give the slot one more chance in case I was wrong, because I suck at this game. I chose to do so when we had more room to be risky about it. The team, to me at that time, was 2 within AJ/Nyn/Kat. If Nyn flipped wolf, from AJ pushin her, then I was comfortable letting one of the only active players in the game live to help me scum hunt because no one else was around. If I had other options of an active team, then maybe I would have pushed the AJ lynch regardless. Fact is though, at the time, we were a majority of the activity with Cass being the next runner up. You/Nyn/Kat/Illian were AWOL.

 

So no, lynching Kat would have proven nothing on AJ's alignment. Nyn would have still been around. Your acting like Kat was my big lynch goal, and it wasn't. My goal was to resolve AJ's slot one way or the other. And I have. I am 100% certain he is a wolf at this point. There is no more second guessing or doubt on my part there.

 

For me it's more that you specifically stated your order of suspicion was AJ -> Kat -> Nyn, and then skipped out on that to make a deal with your no. 1 Scum read, skipping your second most-likely-wolf to lynch your third. 

 

Again it's so AJ-centric that it makes me nervous. What better wolf ploy than to distance and line your partner up as your #1 WTL but never get to actually pushing there until LYLO. You win the Accuser spot, and simply vote elsewhere; someone else wins the Accuser spot and lynches your partner - and you're almost immediately off the table.  

 

I'm trying to see this from a Town PoV and I've been struggling to see why you'd not just try and lynch your scum reads, but ok, if Nyn flipped Wolf AJ might have looked more clear (bus/distance at final points for win aside).

 

I still think though, if AJ voted to lynch Nyn, but Town had lynched Kat and she had flipped Wolf, that would have been ?equally damning for AJ as him pushing/lynching Town!Nyn.

 

And AFAICT, there was more evidence towards Nyn being probably Town than Kat, so Kat would've been the preferred choice, in the higher hopes of hitting a wolf.

 

But ok. If we lynched Kat, and she flipped Town, AJ isn't immediately more cleared/damned.

 

AJ is your number 1 lynch choice today?

 

Who are you thinking to vote for Accuser?/Under what circumstances would you consider voting for me?

[darc-star]

26 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

@darc-star - what was the beginning of the bold sentence supposed to be?

 

 

From what I understand, most of Kat's D1s are hedging and she often balances her reads with consideration for other possibilities - this is a thought process I understand, and I'm not sure that it's AI for her. 

 

 

Mess of thoughts or not, many of these mirror my own reactions. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how it might come from a Towny process.

 

 

 

So did you trust Dice was Town? How well do you two read each other, generally?

This was wrt Nyn saying part of the reason Dice got elected was likely because he was gunning for her. Why'd you respond to this now? With Nyn/Seph/Dice all out of the game?

 

 

lol, that sentence was supposed to be "ive not~", dunno what happened there

 

what is ai for kat then? because shes at the bottom of my pile atm

 

and i think ive only played with dice once or twice, and he died n1 in the most recent one, but i did read him as scum there, incorrectly

but, yes, i read him as town this game, so i figured i could be more confident in that being more likely from town, unless he was one of those weird people that can be more towny as scum, which didnt seem to be the consensus from the reactions i got when asking about him

i responded because id only just gotten around to reading it - did consider deleting it when i noticed who it was from, but deleting quotes here is a pain, so i figured i may as well answer it

 

24 minutes ago, Cass said:

@darc-star

Who are you leaning towards voting for Accuser today?

 

most likely you

[Cass]

42 minutes ago, darc-star said:

 

lol, that sentence was supposed to be "ive not~", dunno what happened there

Kk, ta. I had/have a similar question for AJ that hasn't yet been answered, and given some of the recent posts, I'd like to hear what he says here.

 

42 minutes ago, darc-star said:

 

what is ai for kat then? because shes at the bottom of my pile atm

 

What puts her there, for you? And who would her partner be?

 

It would be a biiiggg gambity move for Scum!Kat to lock a vote in for me as Accuser when I was gunning for her lynch IMO. WIFOM because there's the fact I was vocal about that being part of my reason for thinking Nyn Town, but there it is.

 

Looking at some of the Kat-Lenlo, Kat-AJ comments/interactions I don't know which would be more likely. I'm back and forth on whether Scum!Kat comes out and strongly suggests Scum!Len wouldn't be linked with Scum!Halli and then has some snarky-distance type posts together; and I'm not sure that Scum!Kat says Scum!AJ would be a more likely Halli partner than Town!AJ.

 

Honestly, I don't know how to read her. All I really have to go on is in the ISOs from the other games, and my impression that she was considerably reactively 'self' focused/defeatist when I saw her play Scum, and more upbeat/'hunty' as Town.

 

42 minutes ago, darc-star said:

 

and i think ive only played with dice once or twice, and he died n1 in the most recent one, but i did read him as scum there, incorrectly

but, yes, i read him as town this game, so i figured i could be more confident in that being more likely from town, unless he was one of those weird people that can be more towny as scum, which didnt seem to be the consensus from the reactions i got when asking about him

i responded because id only just gotten around to reading it - did consider deleting it when i noticed who it was from, but deleting quotes here is a pain, so i figured i may as well answer it

 

So you've never seen him Scum? Have you ever played a game with him where you were Scum and he was Town? I don't know about Dice being more 'towny' as Scum... I think the concensus would be he's usually somehow just less Dice!/a different sort of belligerant. WRT to formatting stuff,  I hear you! FWIW deleting quotes is just backspace afaik.

 

42 minutes ago, darc-star said:

 

most likely you

Even if I decide to lynch outside of Kat?

[Cass]

 

@Andrej

I'm currently thinking it seems less likely/an unnecessary uphill battle for Scum!Lenlo to keep you alive/NK you last night? If you have quotes etc that you can quote from the other game that show this is something Wolf!Len! would do, it would be good to see them?

 

[Cass]

Bed for me, ninight all ❤️

[darc-star]

1 hour ago, Cass said:

What puts her there, for you? And who would her partner be?

 

It would be a biiiggg gambity move for Scum!Kat to lock a vote in for me as Accuser when I was gunning for her lynch IMO. WIFOM because there's the fact I was vocal about that being part of my reason for thinking Nyn Town, but there it is.

 

Looking at some of the Kat-Lenlo, Kat-AJ comments/interactions I don't know which would be more likely. I'm back and forth on whether Scum!Kat comes out and strongly suggests Scum!Len wouldn't be linked with Scum!Halli and then has some snarky-distance type posts together; and I'm not sure that Scum!Kat says Scum!AJ would be a more likely Halli partner than Town!AJ.

 

Honestly, I don't know how to read her. All I really have to go on is in the ISOs from the other games, and my impression that she was considerably reactively 'self' focused/defeatist when I saw her play Scum, and more upbeat/'hunty' as Town.

 

oooh, i split it

you, len and aj have all been giving lots of content and thoughts, and kat... hasnt so much, so shes kinda fallen to the bottom

i follow your thoughts a lot, and can see you reevaluating people constantly, and i think that comes from a towny place

i cant really understand where len is coming from at all, especially with the whole nyn thing, so hes dropped down a lot

aj is kinda in the middle, he seems to be here a lot, and is looking at a lot of people, unlike len, but he doesnt seem to have such a... i dunno... strong voice?

more sort of a poe thing, i guess, its not like shes overly scummy, and i do know some players who are just constantly fluffy and fency, but i just dont have anything to make me think town, and your iso of her town game is just too different to me

 

as for teams... im not really good at that... ill dabble in it sometimes, but ive seen lots of games lost because people discount things as "never teamed", so i usually just restrict it to people that i already see as individually scummy

 

and, like, i get what you mean about her and len, but i can also see a world where len chose to accuse nyn over kat, and keep aj alive because kat is his buddy

 

1 hour ago, Cass said:

 

 

So you've never seen him Scum? Have you ever played a game with him where you were Scum and he was Town? I don't know about Dice being more 'towny' as Scum... I think the concensus would be he's usually somehow just less Dice!/a different sort of belligerant. WRT to formatting stuff,  I hear you! FWIW deleting quotes is just backspace afaik.

 

Even if I decide to lynch outside of Kat?

 

dont remember what he (or i) was for the first game, but we were both town the next one

i only know... one... maybe two players that are more towny as scum, so when dice was more towny than his previous town game i felt comfortable trusting him

 

and thats why i havent voted for you yet, lol

as it stands, youre the person i trust most to accuse the person you say you will, so thats why im leaning there for now, but i dunno who youre likely to accuse

fwiw, im not set on kat yet, atm id be most happy with kat or len, but it still depends on the arguments people put forward today

 

[Lenlo]

3 hours ago, Cass said:

Who are you thinking to vote for Accuser?/Under what circumstances would you consider voting for me?

Personally, me, so I can shoot AJ. The only other person I would consider is you, and I would require you to say you would shoot AJ/Kat since there is no trial today. If you were goin after anyone else, I wouldnt vote for you, because I dont want to lose LyLo

[Cass]

10 hours ago, darc-star said:

 

oooh, i split it

you, len and aj have all been giving lots of content and thoughts, and kat... hasnt so much, so shes kinda fallen to the bottom

i follow your thoughts a lot, and can see you reevaluating people constantly, and i think that comes from a towny place

i cant really understand where len is coming from at all, especially with the whole nyn thing, so hes dropped down a lot

aj is kinda in the middle, he seems to be here a lot, and is looking at a lot of people, unlike len, but he doesnt seem to have such a... i dunno... strong voice?

more sort of a poe thing, i guess, its not like shes overly scummy, and i do know some players who are just constantly fluffy and fency, but i just dont have anything to make me think town, and your iso of her town game is just too different to me

 

as for teams... im not really good at that... ill dabble in it sometimes, but ive seen lots of games lost because people discount things as "never teamed", so i usually just restrict it to people that i already see as individually scummy

 

and, like, i get what you mean about her and len, but i can also see a world where len chose to accuse nyn over kat, and keep aj alive because kat is his buddy

 

Following til here.

You previously said you have followed/liked AJs thoughts - which ones specifically?

 

10 hours ago, darc-star said:

dont remember what he (or i) was for the first game, but we were both town the next one

i only know... one... maybe two players that are more towny as scum, so when dice was more towny than his previous town game i felt comfortable trusting him

What game was the first one? Extra points for links ?

 

10 hours ago, darc-star said:

fwiw, im not set on kat yet, atm id be most happy with kat or len, but it still depends on the arguments people put forward today

 

kk for now

[Cass]

@Andrej why aren't you answerinnggggggg?

 

I need your thougggghhhhttssss

 

Particularly wrt Kat and Lenlo pls

 

 

[Cass]

@Katiora

Whatchya up to?

[Lenlo]

Just a heads up Cass, if you need me, im around. Just dont have much else to say. AJ/Kat wolf team is my final answer. I shoot them 100% of the time here