The Stand Mafia [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN AND NOTBOB WIN!

[Cory Caboose]

22 minutes ago, Krakalakachkn said:

Back and stuff.

 

Hi

[Andrej]

2 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Actually I think he tried to vig you. 

 

That’s specific. I don’t think he said what he received from Hallia but if that was it I would’ve died

[Krakalakachkn]

5 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Have fun

 

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Andrej said:

 

That’s specific. I don’t think he said what he received from Hallia but if that was it I would’ve died

no, Pengu would have died.

[Krakalakachkn]

2 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

 

Hi

 

Sup?  Still scummy?

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

That’s specific. I don’t think he said what he received from Hallia but if that was it I would’ve died

I can think of 2 possibilities, but not my secret to reveal.

[Krakalakachkn]

:)

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Krakalakachkn said:

 

Sup?  Still scummy?

him and DPR are pretty safely accepted as masons.

[Krakalakachkn]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

him and DPR are pretty safely accepted as masons.

 

 

 

His play can still be scummy

[Andrej]

5 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

no, I had been thinking about it for awhile before that. I had assumed at the initial reveal that it was coincidence that Marsh got redirected. Once you get to my long post on my response to Kat you'll understand my full mindset.

 

The redirected bit made me believe tbh but working under the assumption that they wanted to see Town PRs visit me by moving to Penguins then he needed some reason to watch Penguins instead.

 

There’s another reason why the redirect was really believable to me but I’ll keep that to myself for now.

[Andrej]

5 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

no, Pengu would have died.

 

Very true, good point.

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

The redirected bit made me believe tbh but working under the assumption that they wanted to see Town PRs visit me by moving to Penguins then he needed some reason to watch Penguins instead.

 

There’s another reason why the redirect was really believable to me but I’ll keep that to myself for now.

I have a few other thoughts on that but they aren't necesary.

[Katiora]

8 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

That’s specific. I don’t think he said what he received from Hallia but if that was it I would’ve died

Not really 

[Andrej]

7 hours ago, Ironeyes said:

WTL in order: Krak, [small gap] NotBob, [large gap], EP, Kat, [large gap], AJ

 

I don’t remember seeing your reasons on Krak but maybe I missed it while skimming. Your read on me kinda bugs me too.

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Katiora said:

Not really 

 

Well unless you have personal info then you’re assuming based on ????

 

Z was a bodyguard and Hallia made it really obvious she had a gifting PR N1. So it makes sense to me that he tried to protect her and failed.

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

I don’t remember seeing your reasons on Krak but maybe I missed it while skimming. Your read on me kinda bugs me too.

the fact that I'm not all the way on the right for him is odd as well, since I heavily pushed both Leelou and Pengu's train. I would have to be an idiot to do that as mafia.

[Cory Caboose]

11 minutes ago, Krakalakachkn said:

 

Sup?  Still scummy?

 

At least I'm not dead weight

[Gabriel Kross]

@ all can we just agree to test my read? I'm as sure on Marsh as I was on Pengu.

[Katiora]

OK DPR asked for my thoughts, this is it. I think EP is completely off on his marsh case. I’ve play with Marsh before and I just don’t see him making himself a target that early in the game on something so unsure. at that pouint in the game revealing like he did, did nothing to help mafia and if anything brought more suspension on him and penguin. If he was questioning what happened he would have done so in qt not in the main thread. Honestly EP I don’t think that you are a very good target for the mafia tonight, because you are so fixated on one person that they are gonna try to use you to manipulate everyone else to trying to resolve marsh who is very possibly town, so I doubt you die tonight.

 

Between the rest of the players AJ, Cory, and DPR in my mind are all completely villagers. There’s no way that Leelou chooses two mafia people to use her bus driving on, it’s just not happening. I also think that you are fairly lock clear yourself EP. That leaves me with two people Krak and NB 

 

Krak has been quiet and slightly distant all game. 

 

NB has been basically lolcatting all game.   I think our scum is here. I can’t say which one I think is more likely. 

 

 

I will say this. 

 

N1- AJ 

N2- Krak

N3- NB

 

ill elaborate farther if I’m alive tomorrow. If I’m not it will make more sense 

 

13 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Well unless you have personal info then you’re assuming based on ????

 

Z was a bodyguard and Hallia made it really obvious she had a gifting PR N1. So it makes sense to me that he tried to protect her and failed.

He said he had “one opportunity to do something epic” which to me isn’t saving someone. It’s zander for shooting someone. 

[Katiora]

Wow my font on notepad is HUGE 

[Andrej]

Looking the role list it seems to me that Hallia’s role was what I’d call the “star” role, in that the game was more or less built around it. From what I remember of Hallia’s coroner she got to pick three people who each got a NA at random within a list of 6. It explains why there wasn’t a full doc and likely there isn’t a cop imo minus EP’s reverse investigation ability which in itself is pretty low % of actually working.

 

It makes sense that scum would have PRs to counteract the way Town could quickly clear one another, plus Doc saves, vig shots, etc. Penguins blowing his wad D1 was silly in retrospect unless the CW was scum. That would be Marsh. Leelou’s role actively swaps NAs around when presumably there’d be at least three going out each Night if Hallia had stayed alive. The wolves having a Watcher also fits in that vein for the various reasons that have been discussed to death already.

[Andrej]

5 hours ago, Cory Caboose said:

 

Just a point:

Through about page 31 Leelou/Penguins distanced heavily and they have been TRing pretty much only known villagers. Obv at this point in the game (this is d1) the wolves didnt know of dice's existence so to Leelou that is a list of 5 villagers she's giving out

I think the there was a ton of distancing / bussing going on with the wolfteam this game, perhaps more than someone like AJ would abide with, and makes sense to me in the sense that the wolves were going up against Darthe, AJ, Zander, me & DPR - people who tend to push for lynches and therefore given the wolves less control -  it becomes a matter where "looking good" is really important.

 

Not that wolves bussing / distancing is uncommon, but I think it was a focus for them this game

 

Who else do you think fits here?

 

Like I said N2 the lynch going from a tie between Marsh/Penguins to getting lynched within the next day (and flipping a used 1x role) definitely meant he got bussed. We know Leelou did.

 

You think it was just her and the other one was voting off wagon?

[Gabriel Kross]

7 minutes ago, Katiora said:

OK DPR asked for my thoughts, this is it. I think EP is completely off on his marsh case. I’ve play with Marsh before and I just don’t see him making himself a target that early in the game on something so unsure. at that pouint in the game revealing like he did, did nothing to help mafia and if anything brought more suspension on him and penguin. If he was questioning what happened he would have done so in qt not in the main thread. Honestly EP I don’t think that you are a very good target for the mafia tonight, because you are so fixated on one person that they are gonna try to use you to manipulate everyone else to trying to resolve marsh who is very possibly town, so I doubt you die tonight.

 

Between the rest of the players AJ, Cory, and DPR in my mind are all completely villagers. There’s no way that Leelou chooses two mafia people to use her bus driving on, it’s just not happening. I also think that you are fairly lock clear yourself EP. That leaves me with two people Krak and NB 

 

Krak has been quiet and slightly distant all game. 

 

NB has been basically lolcatting all game.   I think our scum is here. I can’t say which one I think is more likely. 

 

 

I will say this. 

 

N1- AJ 

N2- Krak

N3- NB

 

ill elaborate farther if I’m alive tomorrow. If I’m not it will make more sense 

 

He said he had “one opportunity to do something epic” which to me isn’t saving someone. It’s zander for shooting someone. 

except you're discounting Leelou working with Marsh in the QT not to mention we know little to nothing of how scheming Pengu can be. NB imo is pretty on his usual style and Krak is always a bit distant as far as I've ever seen. I know exactly what you are now, I wish you would have humored me and targeted Marsh.

[Cory Caboose]

If it was Marsh this whole time imma be so mad at you guys

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

except you're discounting Leelou working with Marsh in the QT not to mention we know little to nothing of how scheming Pengu can be. NB imo is pretty on his usual style and Krak is always a bit distant as far as I've ever seen. I know exactly what you are now, I wish you would have humored me and targeted Marsh.

actually, now that I think about it you just gave me another nail in the Marsh coffin. You said you targeted AJ Marsh said he targeted AJ and got redirected onto Pengu and nobody visited Pengu, we know now that it was a bus driver so all people targeting AJ targeted Pengu. Marsh is caught in another lie, because he didn't see you either. He either lied about who he targeted or lied about being a watcher, either way Marsh has to die.