The Stand Mafia [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN AND NOTBOB WIN!

[Gabriel Kross]

What makes sense: 
A double voter and an executioner on the same team

Since we've heard nothing about redirection since day, it also makes sense that Marsh could be lying.

1 minute ago, Ironeyes said:

How does that preclude the possibility that I'm the cop stand-in and scum have a ninja as a godfather stand-in?

because you are not the cop stand in. There is one, but it's not you.

[Gabriel Kross]

I'm willing to vote Darthe or Marsh atm.

[Gabriel Kross]

Ninja is too obscure a role to be the logical jump in this game. Especially when that would make the Watcher role useless as a town role given my theories.

[Gabriel Kross]

On that note:

 

Vote Marsh

[Gabriel Kross]

You dug your own hole by suggesting the one role that would make your claimed role useless as a town role is in this game.

[Songstress]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Krak (4): Cory, Darthe, NotBob

Ironeyes (1): EP

 

Not voting:  AJ, DPR, Ironeyes, Kat, Leelou, Krak, Dice

 

WITH 11 ALIVE, IT TAKES 6 TO LYNCH.

 

KRAK IS AT L-2

 

 

Day 3 deadline is Monday, July 9 at 12 noon EDT (graphic to follow when I have computer again)

[Ironeyes]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

You dug your own hole by suggesting the one role that would make your claimed role useless as a town role is in this game.

I wasn't even the first to suggest it. And I'm only trying to make sense of what I learned from watching you last night. 

Also, you're ignoring the fact that I think it's a 1x ability since that doesn't make me useless. 

[Darthe]

This is why I don't listen to EP.

[Gabriel Kross]

2 minutes ago, Darthe said:

This is why I don't listen to EP.

if you knew what I know, you may change your mind. Marsh is not the stand in for a cop. I am.

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

if you knew what I know, you may change your mind. Marsh is not the stand in for a cop. I am.

unfortunately, my role only worked in conjunction with Hallia's

[Ironeyes]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

if you knew what I know, you may change your mind. Marsh is not the stand in for a cop. I am.

Sooooooo... you're going to hint at it, not say what you know, and ask us to trust you and lynch me? 

[Ironeyes]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

unfortunately, my role only worked in conjunction with Hallia's

So you think that there can't possibly be any other investigative role because you have a role that becomes, to use your own word, "useless," when another specific player dies. That's not a logical assumption. 

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Ironeyes said:

Sooooooo... you're going to hint at it, not say what you know, and ask us to trust you and lynch me? 

you know what, since it is useless. I will reveal. I am the Town Electrician: immune to cop views but see the alignment of anyone who tried to cop view. I spent the last hour trying to find out why it wouldn't work on watcher, apparently it's a variation. 

 

1 minute ago, Ironeyes said:

So you think that there can't possibly be any other investigative role because you have a role that becomes, to use your own word, "useless," when another specific player dies. That's not a logical assumption. 

I'm saying you are not the stand in for cop. but with my top 2 suspects atm sharing the idea that the game could have a ninja, I'm suggesting even if you are the watcher, you're not town.

[Gabriel Kross]

now, since Hallia could give out cop views, it was the logical conclusion that the game has no cop. I was supposed to somehow draw the cop views. I tried reverse psychology day 1 but it didn't work.

[Ironeyes]

2 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

you know what, since it is useless. I will reveal. I am the Town Electrician: immune to cop views but see the alignment of anyone who tried to cop view. I spent the last hour trying to find out why it wouldn't work on watcher, apparently it's a variation. 

 

I'm saying you are not the stand in for cop. but with my top 2 suspects atm sharing the idea that the game could have a ninja, I'm suggesting even if you are the watcher, you're not town.

That's a wacky role. I wish it did tell you my alignment because this would be a lot easier. I think it's because I don't investigate you. What I do is look for other people targeting you, so I don't actually receive any information about you. 

[Gabriel Kross]

this all relates to the mechanical theory that I alluded to previously, there is likely also no doc in this game. 

 

Just now, Ironeyes said:

That's a wacky role. I wish it did tell you my alignment because this would be a lot easier. I think it's because I don't investigate you. What I do is look for other people targeting you, so I don't actually receive any information about you. 

here you go getting all defensive when I already stated why it doesn't work. My version is a variation of the role. Tress decided I would only see cop views so that's all I see.

[Gabriel Kross]

@Cory Caboose for the record since you weren't getting the hint B rad > Brad Kitchener. Still want to pressure Marsh?

[Ironeyes]

That wasn't defensive, that was being a know-it-all. I do not have an investigative role, therefore no variation of the electrician should trigger in response to my watching. 

[Ironeyes]

It's a character flaw of mine

[Gabriel Kross]

2 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

That wasn't defensive, that was being a know-it-all. I do not have an investigative role, therefore no variation of the electrician should trigger in response to my watching. 

actually you're wrong, watcher IS an investigative role, so is tracker, so is Lie Detector

[Gabriel Kross]

You're investigating details of an event, you target the one you watch and investigate them to see if anyone else targeted them.

[Ironeyes]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

You're investigating details of an event, you target the one you watch and investigate them to see if anyone else targeted them.

Correct. I investigate an event, not a person. That's what I'm trying to say

[Gabriel Kross]

current reasons why I suspect Darthe:
1 claimed lovers. I agree that there is no way it's a town/town lovers pair and Darthe's play this game makes me think he is the mafia in that pair. 

2 claimed just after the mason claim to ride the "safety train"

3 evidence of a t/m lover pair is that they survived the claim no world do lovers claim and not die are they a t/t pairing. 

 

4 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

Correct. I investigate an event, not a person. That's what I'm trying to say

those events are directly linked to a person. You can't investigate the event without investigating the person.

[Ironeyes]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

 

those events are directly linked to a person. You can't investigate the event without investigating the person.

That's where you're wrong. Although it's irrelevant anyway since you already know that my ability doesn't trigger yours in this specific game. I just hate losing arguments. 

[dicetosser1]

6 hours ago, Darthe said:

Well, I think you're unlikely to be town here too tbh.  You've not shown me you were through any hunting or play, you tried to pull me off penguin, and we have Masons.

 

I could see it if we have no cop, so I'd like to live through one more day phase, but in my mind you're a wolf in the bag. 

 

Gets to be a WAWAH situation if we start moving around the setup too much though, so I am comfy dying in the next couple days.

 

excuse me? i did WHAT??

 

 

ohh  you mean the ONE LINE where i said i think penguin is town? on like d or n 1??

 

thats trying to pull you off is it?

 

as for wolf in the bag   could i have stated ANY clearer that i didnt trust you because we were lovers?  2 way street bro.

 

and its funny    people havent had much problem with my game until you announed the lovers. So how exactly then have i not shown you thru gameplay?

 

 

5 hours ago, Darthe said:

Im really curious to see if I leave y'all and dice does flip town if you can manage the game still.  It concerns me, a bit.

 

For instance, will anyone ever give credence to the idea that maybe the mason claim is fake?  If dice and I are town it's possible, expecially if we have a cop.

 

But stuff like that isn't really worth considering until you get there.  I just don't wanna see that Clov game again.

 

I think honestly, AJ, Leelou, krak, dice prob resolves this game.  

 

stop stealing my thoughts

 

2 hours ago, Darthe said:

Makes sense to watch EP.  That said, typically you'd see who targeted him which would also include the wolf that shot him.  That's how watcher works.

 

So either you've got that for us, a ninja exists, or you're lying.

 

how does a mod/player with ure experience miss the fact that zander could have been directly targetted?

 

 

53 minutes ago, Ironeyes said:

Zander targeted you with his bodyguard, so the most likely explanation for his death is that you were the target of the shot

 

would you like to contradict ureself any more? one second you point out the true fact that zander could have been targetted himself. but then you throw this up.

 

why is this the most likelyexplanation?