The Stand Mafia [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN AND NOTBOB WIN!

[Leelou]

8 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

 

I'll give you some benefit of the doubt here cause after seeing the argument unfolding last night that really solidified my feelings that Penguins was scum.

 

BUT - I really want to see who your suspects are now with reasonings.

 

DPR - It felt like to me that he was trying to deter me away from penguin. Also, his reads list. I don't get it, especially in retrospect from the lynch.  

 

Krak - Still unresolved for me. He was following Darthe early and I didn't like his reasoning on Cory. And Hi again Krak. I'll talk to you if we are both alive when you get back. 

 

 

[Andrej]

Just now, Darthe said:

Marsh/Penguin could've been W/W.  I really don't know.  Marsh is right that I usually read him very well, and I page 1 called him a wolf then had reason to keep thinking so later, but his response to me when I asked him why he didn't ever address that really has thrown me.

 

I just wanna be right here but I'm lacking a lot of the conviction I usually have about my wolf reads.  

 

Krak has sheeped me and my thoughts.  He did it last game as town but it's a super tinfoily thing.  Dice has hardly been around or contributed which IS still his wolf meta.

 

Do either of Krak/Dice make sense as Penguins partners?

 

Idk man, I just really want to believe Marsh here. If I'm wrong then that's on me, but like I was pushing Penguins for yesterday I don't think he adds that extra bit for his NA result. He's too much of a straight shooter imo.

[Leelou]

6 minutes ago, Darthe said:

You love it

 

[Darthe]

4 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Do either of Krak/Dice make sense as Penguins partners?

 

Idk man, I just really want to believe Marsh here. If I'm wrong then that's on me, but like I was pushing Penguins for yesterday I don't think he adds that extra bit for his NA result. He's too much of a straight shooter imo.

You're probably right.  I'm dreading going back and trying to find Penguin stuff but tbh I need it.  This higher-effort kind of game I'm playing now dictates that my reads can't be me dicking around. 

[Andrej]

7 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

My current suspects:

Leelou

DPR

Pengu

Kat

 

Why this team would work, Leelou and DPR are known to have good friendly chemistry so distancing would logically put everyone's back up. Kat has many people calling her town atm, so DPR adding his "vote of confidence" here is not unsafe. Pengu is the team wildcard. Let him loose see what he can shake up but throw him out if he gets too far in over his head.

 

Does this still hold?

 

Fwiw I think Kat being wishy washy about her reads isn't as bad as you think it is. The one time we were scum partners together in a multiball game I pushed her a lot in the QT to go after people I thought were scum on the other team.

 

6 hours ago, Ironeyes said:

Well then. Vote Penguin

 

^^^^ I'm pretty much gonna ride or die on Marsh being Town

 

5 hours ago, Cory Caboose said:

i am not in favor of a penguin lynch

 

[Zander?]

Cory was pretty wishy washy on Penguin all game iirc.

[Cory Caboose]

4 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Knowing Penguins was scum, who are your top villas/scumspects now?

 

 I want to reread before I actually put out a new reads list  and I haven’t had the time to read much unfortunately 

 

 My major problem that I’m working through is that I have like a villager liens on everyone except Krak

 

 I pretty much threw out my reads around the time I switch the wagons  and haven’t really processed it more than that I like the people who spearheaded the wagon (ep mostly, also nb & leelou)

[Zander?]

@Andrej

 

Do me a favor....read the hidden content in Marshs siggy

[Cory Caboose]

1 minute ago, Zanatron said:

Cory was pretty wishy washy on Penguin all game iirc.

 

 I was not wishy-washy.  I was very firm about having him null!

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Cory Caboose said:

 I want to reread before I actually put out a new reads list  and I haven’t had the time to read much unfortunately 

 

 My major problem that I’m working through is that I have like a villager liens on everyone except Krak

 

 I pretty much threw out my reads around the time I switch the wagons  and haven’t really processed it more than that I like the people who spearheaded the wagon (ep mostly, also nb & leelou)

 

You don't think I spearheaded that wagon either? Like I could've easily just sat on Leelou but instead I tied a wagon with a flipped scum with someone who I was actively fighting against being lynched.

 

Idk if you just didn't include this but you don't seem to be acknowledging it and it really bothers me.

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, Cory Caboose said:

 

 I was not wishy-washy.  I was very firm about having him null!

 

You're right wishy washy wasn't the right word.  Non committal might be better.

[Cory Caboose]

 Don’t really remember much of your posting on penguins I’ve had a hectic day and I mostly remember the conversation I was a part of 

 

 I think you’re a villager 

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

You don't think I spearheaded that wagon either? Like I could've easily just sat on Leelou but instead I tied a wagon with a flipped scum with someone who I was actively fighting against being lynched.

 

Idk if you just didn't include this but you don't seem to be acknowledging it and it really bothers me.

 

Did Leelou and NB really spearhead it?!?!??

[Andrej]

I am willing to admit that I could be wrong on Krak.

 

Sometimes villagers need that one whoopsy read so they can solve the game. I'm willing to give you some leeway about being wrong on Penguins because ultimately you hammered him and from where I'm at currently I see a lot of you linking me and Krak together.

[Cory Caboose]

 I’m just going to claim when I get home 

 

 Currently on voice to text cause I’m driving 

[Cory Caboose]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

I am willing to admit that I could be wrong on Krak.

 

Sometimes villagers need that one whoopsy read so they can solve the game. I'm willing to give you some leeway about being wrong on Penguins because ultimately you hammered him and from where I'm at currently I see a lot of you linking me and Krak together.

 

 I never had a village read on penguins 

 

 Xander asked me twice and second time asked me gun to head and I said my final guess was villager based on the wagon that are formed on him 

 

 That was not information I volunteered frilly I never had a village read on him.  And I was firm about doing so when other people reading him as villager for his fluffy conversation posting 

 

[Zander?]

 

On 30/06/2018 at 5:14 PM, Darthe said:

Town

Town

Wolf

Wolf

Town

Town

 

^each first post on page 1

 

On 30/06/2018 at 5:18 PM, Darthe said:

Also town.

 

Did I miss anyone?

 

Also, it's 90 something here and I've been outside with my dog all day.  Did y'all know I got a dog?

 

New DM is fing stupid....who the f came up with this setup should be castrated 

[Andrej]

5 hours ago, Cory Caboose said:

let's just remember that

> Krak made some flimsy posts to start the game
> Got called out for it and start getting "into" the game
> Stop caring once people started calling him a villager again and stopping paying attention

His actual reads have been super thin, his focus has been mostly me, which I think is a super weird person for him to 'focus' on

 

5 hours ago, Cory Caboose said:

 

I don't want to lynch AJ today

I want to lynch Marsh

 

lol

 

I really want to believe these are sincere.

 

I don't remember whether Penguins or Krak talked about the other exclusively.

[Gabriel Kross]

26 minutes ago, Darthe said:

But for real I feel kinda lost this game.  Been trying to capture what I had last game and it's not panning out. I do think maybe Leelous a wolf but thats about it. 

 

Otherwise, I've got Zander, Kat, and EP as clear town.

 

Cory, Notbob, as prob town.

 

Dice, AJ, Krak as maybe.

 

Leelou and Marsh are basically my PoE, but this thing feels wrong.  

Where is DPR on this list?

6 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

Did Leelou and NB really spearhead it?!?!??

NB voted but wasn't around to really push. Leelou only started pushing Pengu today. Though Leelou is one that I could picture bussing, I am unsure where I stand on Leelou now though. I want to observe how Leelou, DPR, Darthe, and Zander interact with the game for a bit. Kat doesn't strick me as one who would buss regardless of how I was reading her prior to the flip.

[Gabriel Kross]

20 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Does this still hold?

 

Fwiw I think Kat being wishy washy about her reads isn't as bad as you think it is. The one time we were scum partners together in a multiball game I pushed her a lot in the QT to go after people I thought were scum on the other team.

 

 

^^^^ I'm pretty much gonna ride or die on Marsh being Town

 

 

Kat I think moved off this list, and I don't know how I feel about Leelou, but DPR could definitely still be mafia. Darthe and Zander are on my watch list now tho.

[Andrej]

14 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

 Don’t really remember much of your posting on penguins I’ve had a hectic day and I mostly remember the conversation I was a part of 

 

 I think you’re a villager 

 

I'd suggest you read me again from last night then.

[Cory Caboose]

Of course they were sincere AJ

Yeah, I think I might have been wrong about Marsh. I didn't get to see my d1 suspect flip d1, somebody else got lynched that I wasn't enthused about lynching. You got to see your "kill this" Eld flip and reassess. I just got stuck building worlds around Marsh because let's be honest his d2 wasn't great either

And you know what? I got there. I don't care what you think about it.

 

And the early hammer? Yeah, there's a conversation to be had about whether or not its ev or -ev (I did it because I was curious of the flip and there were multiple other players around who wanted the hammer) but you know damn well i'm impatient as a villager and act impulsively, probably a lot more so than I do as a wolf where there's more calculation and concern for how I look

Open your eyes

[Cory Caboose]

Just now, Andrej said:

 

I'd suggest you read me again from last night then.

 

I have 113 pages to reread, I'll get there when I do, reading you is not exactly a pressing concern for me right now

[Cory Caboose]

Just so nobody does anything stupid tonight

ME & DPR ARE MASONS

 

we both left cover d1 if you want me to find it, it's why i have given him a pretty blank slate townread I only halfheartedly explain

[Andrej]

3 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

I have 113 pages to reread, I'll get there when I do, reading you is not exactly a pressing concern for me right now

 

Ok. I just want you to keep something in mind while you reread.

 

In what game have you seen me actively bus a teammate?