RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[Shad_]

Plus scum faking that announcement would just be

 

really really weird

 

like

 

complex layers of gambitting based on assumptions they couldn't have realistically predicted and occam's razor just says no

[Krakalakachkn]

bg

[Shad_]

Just now, Krakalakachkn said:

If this isn't a hammer game then is there a way to end the day early or do we have to wait for almost 21 hours to pass? 

 

My impression is that we're locked into a 48/24 rotation due to twilight actions

[Krakalakachkn]

yah.

[Shad_]

14 minutes ago, Andrej said:

We’re gonna clutter the thread with all the spec.

 

from my POV there was an announcement of a Pacifist SK and we have a dude who No Lynch voted on D1. Big coincidence. I have no clue what it means they were defeated because no one left the game.

 

Thats about as good a guilty as I can find right now.

 

eeeeeeeeeeeee

 

The epicmafia variant of Pacifist is a public role.  Like literally the person voting No Lynch is confirmed Pacifist when they invoke their ability.  It's not an alignment indicative role, but mod confirming that the Pacifist was not town on D1 while that player is publicly restricted to basically hard out themselves as Pacifist is

 

Really just bad

 

Like if BG was exactly an epicmafia style Pacifist SK, his wincon has changed to something else pretty much always.

[Shad_]

Flashbacks to Manti's Guilty Child role

 

God I love bastard games

[Andrej]

It’s a tough spot for BG tbh and I feel for him but currently I think we’re spinning our wheels without good direction.

 

we need more info.

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Shad_ said:

 

eeeeeeeeeeeee

 

The epicmafia variant of Pacifist is a public role.  Like literally the person voting No Lynch is confirmed Pacifist when they invoke their ability.  It's not an alignment indicative role, but mod confirming that the Pacifist was not town on D1 while that player is publicly restricted to basically hard out themselves as Pacifist is

 

Really just bad

 

Like if BG was exactly an epicmafia style Pacifist SK, his wincon has changed to something else pretty much always.

unless there are more factors involved. the mod outing could have been based on someone else's ability doing something. Or based on the pacifist doing something.

[Shad_]

It's possible there is a cult and he was "defeated" by being recruited to it

 

Would be spicy because I think very very few people would recruit BG D1

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Eternal Phoenix said:

unless there are more factors involved. the mod outing could have been based on someone else's ability doing something. Or based on the pacifist doing something.

problem is there is too much we don't know. I say just lynch BG see what pops up and test my theory on Sooh tomorrow.

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Shad_ said:

It's possible there is a cult and he was "defeated" by being recruited to it

 

Would be spicy because I think very very few people would recruit BG D1

problem is, then we are assuming we aren't going by epic mafia version anymore.

[Gabriel Kross]

at this point delving deeper is just a distraction I'm pretty okay with my theory.

[Shad_]

Like pretty specifically only the old-school mentality players who go for what they think would be "unexpected" instead of just picking up strong players to power wolf a victory

 

and Krak/Ed/Amega were town at game start so that's like, pretty much Kat/EP/DPR

[Lenlo]

30 minutes ago, Shad_ said:

 

I mean the kicker here is that it was a mod announcement.

Im just saying, my final comment on the thing, I dont trust it. All we know is they were defeated. There is nothing about alignment conversions in the mod post.

 

If the "defeated" SK gets outted, I will lynch them. Nothing short of Darthe coming down and saying they are town now will stop me. This is a policy lynch as much as it is experience for me. 

[Shad_]

I'm so far astray from anything we actually know about this game it's getting ridiculous

 

AJ you may slap me

[Andrej]

Just now, Shad_ said:

I'm so far astray from anything we actually know about this game it's getting ridiculous

 

AJ you may slap me

 

Effin Darthe, man.

[bgrishinko]

Look, if I can't clear up the Sooh stuff tonight, by all means, Lynch me tomorrow. But I feel like I am in a unique position to clear things up without just going through a bunch of policy lynches. Nobody but town has died and that's bad news for us. 

 

Why don't we use our collective skills together to solve the problem? 

[Andrej]

2 minutes ago, bgrishinko said:

Look, if I can't clear up the Sooh stuff tonight, by all means, Lynch me tomorrow. But I feel like I am in a unique position to clear things up without just going through a bunch of policy lynches. Nobody but town has died and that's bad news for us. 

 

Why don't we use our collective skills together to solve the problem? 

 

You could try voting your counter wagon.

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Andrej said:

 

You could try voting your counter wagon.

+1 lol

[Shad_]

2 minutes ago, bgrishinko said:

Why don't we use our collective skills together to solve the problem? 

 

Ok but what does this mean in actual relevant terms for who we brutally murder today.

[bgrishinko]

Also, people were voting me specifically because they didn't like my No Lynch vote... Not sure there is much better reason. Now it's policy for what you assume is my probable my role. 

 

What defense can I give you and what would you have me do differently in a this situation? 

 

I can hopefully prove that I'm town tonight, but that's the best I can offer. Give me the one chance. 

[Shad_]

I'm out for the night glgl

[Lenlo]

3 minutes ago, bgrishinko said:

Also, people were voting me specifically because they didn't like my No Lynch vote... Not sure there is much better reason. Now it's policy for what you assume is my probable my role. 

 

What defense can I give you and what would you have me do differently in a this situation? 

 

I can hopefully prove that I'm town tonight, but that's the best I can offer. Give me the one chance. 

Your really dont wanna claim Sk-turned-town BG. Not with me in this game. Your shooting up my list.

[bgrishinko]

4 minutes ago, Shad_ said:

 

Ok but what does this mean in actual relevant terms for who we brutally murder today.

 

Well, I think as I mentioned before that I'd like to understand what we can from Kat,the train involved and how that relates to the attempted kill on her getting moved. Who tried to kill her, and who's responsible for protecting her. 

 

That's the more prudent discussion. 

 

 

 

[Shad_]

Just now, bgrishinko said:

Also, people were voting me specifically because they didn't like my No Lynch vote... Not sure there is much better reason. Now it's policy for what you assume is my probable my role. 

 

What defense can I give you and what would you have me do differently in a this situation? 

 

I can hopefully prove that I'm town tonight, but that's the best I can offer. Give me the one chance. 

 

I mean

 

You have like 20 hours.

 

Who are the scummy people iyo