RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Andrej said:

We were told she was dying. I feel the distinction is important.

 

how does it nullify if you think Duke shot Dice?

It nullifies my case. My whole case is based on redirect happening within the night phase on Kat. If it happens in the twilight phase then it goes through what I do since my ability is fully resolved at that point.

[Gabriel Kross]

A twilight redirect though would likely be a mafia role. To redirect off of Kat is probably a wise mafia decision considering she was the other target d1. If she were mafia it would have been wiser to let her die so there are no linking opportunities other than d1 to trap teammates with.

[Krakalakachkn]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

A twilight redirect though would likely be a mafia role. To redirect off of Kat is probably a wise mafia decision considering she was the other target d1. If she were mafia it would have been wiser to let her die so there are no linking opportunities other than d1 to trap teammates with.

 

This is what I meant.

[Andrej]

4 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

It nullifies my case. My whole case is based on redirect happening within the night phase on Kat. If it happens in the twilight phase then it goes through what I do since my ability is fully resolved at that point.

 

I get your thinking here.

[Andrej]

2 minutes ago, Krakalakachkn said:

This is what I meant.

 

aka wifom?

[Krakalakachkn]

I mean I suppose.  I think it's what happened though.

[Gabriel Kross]

Yeah the early death announcements with delayed flips never clicked til now. I suspect there was a limited death redirector in the game that could act only in twilight. it kind of ballances out the multi-vote role better than a vote manipulator.

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Krakalakachkn said:

I mean I suppose.  I think it's what happened though.

 

Something to chew on, for sure. I don’t know if it’s wise to clear Kat completely for it though. I’d really like to hear from her - her postings towards EOD didn’t make me feel too great. 

[Andrej]

Gonna add EP to my townie core.

[Gabriel Kross]

btw, I had suspected the revive mechanic too, I hinted at it earlier with the comment about having dead continue to read. However I want to go look at the flips again to confirm another theory.

 

Just now, Andrej said:

 

Something to chew on, for sure. I don’t know if it’s wise to clear Kat completely for it though. I’d really like to hear from her - her postings towards EOD didn’t make me feel too great. 

I've been reasonably sure from the start that Kat was town based on a question I asked Darthe.

[Sooh]

5 hours ago, bgrishinko said:

Yeah, I agree about Ed. The disheveledness makes me think he might only be partially effective as well. 

 

I've got him in my town boat as well. 

Could he be an insane cop? Like, he won't know whether his results are true or false until a flip? That would be a nerf I guess?

[Sooh]

4 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

 

Sooh and Duke. Duke agreed in chat to fire at Sooh atleast that's how I took his interactions with me. I know Duke wasn't RB'd redirected or prevented in any way. Sooh and Duke are mafia together.

I never took anything Duke said to be confirming of any PR. It would be downright silly to out your PR like that during N1 under no pressure what so ever.

[Sooh]

3 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

Clearly hinting JoAT. The last quote is why I'm saying he shot. He announced on thread he was locked into Vig.

This is actually not a terrible line of thinking. I definitely missed that the first time around.

[Gabriel Kross]

57 minutes ago, Sooh said:

I never took anything Duke said to be confirming of any PR. It would be downright silly to out your PR like that during N1 under no pressure what so ever.

 

51 minutes ago, Sooh said:

This is actually not a terrible line of thinking. I definitely missed that the first time around.

confirming even more to me that you are mafia... First one is confirming that she read everything Duke said, but it doesn't strike you as a JoAT hint. Second is 6 minutes later. Which only gives time to read my quotes of Duke that I was referring to yet just reading the quotes which she just shot down as not hints changed her mind?

[Gabriel Kross]

Also, that's a fairly interesting point I hadn't considered and if my original theory that Sooh and Duke are teammates is correct is a huge slip up. Duke hinted JoAT, but survived the night. MAfia would have shot him immediately to get rid of another investigative role, but they didnt. Illogically they shot Dice instead. It only enhances my suspicion that Duke is the mafia shooter, whether or not my original case was nullified. JoAT doesn't seem like it would be in this game, just looking at what I do, and knowing what others who have already flipped do the town seems overly stacked already. So adding a JoAT, is quite a bit silly. Heck we haven't even seen the doc, and we know of so many other powers there is just no way I could see JoAT added in as well. If Duke was honest, then that would mean this game is likely a bit unbalanced.

[Andrej]

3 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

I've been reasonably sure from the start that Kat was town based on a question I asked Darthe.

 

Go on

[keyholder21]

Morning!

 

Vote Count 2.3

 

BG: AJ

Kat: Lenlo, 

EP: Ley

Sooh: EP

 

Not voting (10/14): BG, Kat, Shad, Sooh, Duke, Hally, DPR, Nyn, Eddie, Krak

 

 

 

Vote Count 2.1 | Vote Count 2.2

[Gabriel Kross]

14 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Go on

The question was technically unrelated to the game, but I asked if he had seen Avengers. Apparently that is the reason my character exists in this game. So, bruce banner being in game makes sense.

 

[Andrej]

17 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

The question was technically unrelated to the game, but I asked if he had seen Avengers. Apparently that is the reason my character exists in this game. So, bruce banner being in game makes sense.

 

More assumptions.

[Andrej]

EP I think you’re more than likely town atp, but man you come out of left field with some stuff.

[Gabriel Kross]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

More assumptions.

1 assumption based on data I got

 

[Hallia]

8 hours ago, Andrej said:

 

That would make me think RB too.

Not the town RB

6 hours ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

I'm pretty sure Kat is safe.

As I have stated, I'm about 80% sure there is a RB in this game.

Sooh and Duke. Duke agreed in chat to fire at Sooh atleast that's how I took his interactions with me. I know Duke wasn't RB'd redirected or prevented in any way. Sooh and Duke are mafia together.

 

I find it interesting you're saying you're conveniently immune to blocking, because I blocked you last night.

[Sooh]

1 hour ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

 

confirming even more to me that you are mafia... First one is confirming that she read everything Duke said, but it doesn't strike you as a JoAT hint. Second is 6 minutes later. Which only gives time to read my quotes of Duke that I was referring to yet just reading the quotes which she just shot down as not hints changed her mind?

Your tunnel is getting rather tiring, but I'm just going to put you in my town list and continue to do my thing.

[Gabriel Kross]

3 minutes ago, Hallia said:

Not the town RB

 

I find it interesting you're saying you're conveniently immune to blocking, because I blocked you last night.

k soooo you outing yourself as mafia? RB is usually a mafia role.  I don't think I've ever seen a town blocker. and I hinted at being immune day 1 so if you are town you wasted your ability when I let on that I couldn't be blocked.

[Andrej]

13 minutes ago, Sooh said:

Your tunnel is getting rather tiring, but I'm just going to put you in my town list and continue to do my thing.

 

Can you explain why?

 

i don’t believe you’ve given very many reads yet and I’d be curious to hear some.