When does spring start?

[Leyrann]

Definition of seasons according to wikipedia: A season is a division of the year marked by changes in weather, ecology, and amount of daylight.

 

I would argue ecology supports the meteorologists more, and so does (obviously) weather.

 

(also, just making sure, this argument is still in good spirits, right?)

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Lol, I'm not having an argument. If you want to change the definition of spring or if you want to call yourself napoleon Bonaparte, you're free to do so.

 

Here, it's the rainy season in my sister's bathroom

 

 

[Leyrann]

Well, I say that you're the one wanting to change the definition of spring...

 

So yeah, I'd say it's an argument.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Leyrann

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

No, this nonsense about meteorological spring was never a thing until a couple years ago, when weathermen started saying it, maybe to stop getting hate mail after nasty winters. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Yup. Meteorological spring was invented not long ago to allow for an easier comparison of weather compared to previous years. Basically it only exists so weatherfolks can say if it was hotter,colder, wetter, dryer etc than previous years. It's just for stats.

 

Astrological spring has been around the whole time.

 

But it's harder to use it for stats cos it moves about. Pesky thing.

 

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/learning/seasons/spring/when-does-spring-start

Edited March 7, 2018 by Ithillian Turambar

[Leyrann]

Also it doesn't keep neatly to the months.

[Ithillian Turambar]

March is always super cold. If spring has to start on a month I'm gonna call April.

[Ithillian Turambar]

And I'm gonna need more seasons.

 

Winter

Fake spring

Winter returns

Grey Dismalness

Spring

Grey DismalNess 2

Hint of Summer

Downpour

Blooming heck it's like 1976 all over again

Ha! Rain Summer

Autumn

Months of grey

Winter

[Leyrann]

7 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

And I'm gonna need more seasons.

 

Winter

Fake spring

Winter returns

Grey Dismalness

Spring

Grey DismalNess 2

Hint of Summer

Downpour

Blooming heck it's like 1976 all over again

Ha! Rain Summer

Autumn

Months of grey

Winter

 

England doesn't count.

 

You're even more famous for it than the Netherlands.

[Ithillian Turambar]

If we didn't have the weather we'd have to have meaningful and well thought out conversations with other people.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

You'd have fun with a lunar calendar. An extra leap month of 20 days (Adar B) is added every few years, according to a mathematical computation and solar observation that I can't figure out, to keep the Hebrew lunar year anything at all in line with the solar year.

 

this is one reason why anything to do with arbitrary dates on a calendar are meaningless to me.

 

at least you can build a henge and figure out the solstice. Or see when the days start to get longer than the nights or the sun comes back after going away even if you lose track of the days or months or years.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

1 minute ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

If we didn't have the weather we'd have to have meaningful and well thought out conversations with other people.

There's nothing more meaningful than the stuff that falls on us from the sky imo. Or what we're doing for dinner.

[Ithillian Turambar]

And we've got to food. Yay!

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

I think Leyrann might approve of this. It's a bit long but funny

 

 

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

Mmmmmm.... dinner or math dinner or math...

[Leyrann]

Already knew about that system (the idea is actually from the early 20th century), but it was a very fun watch.

 

Also, we really need to change to it, it's so much more simple.

[Turin Turambar]

Ley, was your mission to attempt to argue a nonsensical position to engage in deflection and water muttering? That seems to be what you are doing. 

 

BTW, I just spent about 20 minutes outside clearing Ithi's car of what must have been imaginary snow since it is now spring according to you and therefore it could not possibly be snowing

 

Your confusing or incorrectly taking as the same two different versions of "seasons". The Seasons are Spring, Summer, Autumn, and Winter. They are set by the previously mentioned soltices and equinoxes. A period of time when the the weather may be relatively constant (locally) can happen at any time for any length of time. They are not the same.

[Leyrann]

3 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said:

Ley, was your mission to attempt to argue a nonsensical position to engage in deflection and water muttering? That seems to be what you are doing. 

 

That's not what I'm doing.

 

I'm arguing for an easy to use definition of the seasons, that is directly related to our calendar and therefore doesn't change compared to the system we're used to.

 

Then again, I guess you guys also *still* use inches and feet... Why am I even trying?

[Turin Turambar]

We already have a system that has the seasons match up to a specific date on the calendar (accounting for leap year). You need it to start on a 1st of the month? Why? Is it so hard to remember?

 

Your idea for Spring on March 1 doesn't make it simple, it makes it inaccurate. But then it was made up by meteorologists which everyone knows aren't real scientists  Heck they can't even tell us if it will really be raining tomorrow half the time. (except here because it is ALWAYS raining)

 

I'm fully versed in Metric as well. Don't get me started on Stone tho   

 

 

[Talmanes]

Where I live seasons are incredibly arbitrary lol. A couple of years ago we had snow one day, and it was 80 degrees the next.

 

We got a ton of snow and ice earlier this week. It seems every time the snow melts, we get more.

[Leyrann]

11 hours ago, Talmanes said:

and it was 80 degrees the next.

 

You must've been almost boiling...

[Talmanes]

5 hours ago, Leyrann said:

 

You must've been almost boiling...

 

Sorry Ley, still never remember Celsius lol

[Leyrann]

13 minutes ago, Talmanes said:

 

Sorry Ley, still never remember Celsius lol

 

It's easy. 0 C = water freezes, 100 C = water boils.  

[Illian Tear]

I don't do Celsius 

[Talmanes]

@Leyrann I know that part, but converting it from any random temp from F to C not so much lol