The Founding of Quahog (Peter's Progress) Mafia - Game Over

[Tiinker]

Boarding

[Gentled Ben]

 

At he moment very confused lol

 

Before I forget completely Tiinker, did you eplain who was dropping hard reads at the time you talked about meta? (Shad asked so i'm assuming there's an answer I haven't seen, but I don't want to forget)

 

I don't really follow the town read on Ben, currently his response to Shad reads a lot like his response to Liz _in as much as I remember) he accounts for the new info the 'if' argument this game, but it hasn't appeared to change anything, based on current VC

Shad went to point out that now had hard claimed yet but then went to drop a hard town read on Sooh. My frustration from last game might have been leaking over, but yeah. Didn't take long.

 

As far as Ben goes, I said that his analysis had interesting points about Shads game play but I came out of that post saying I thought he was reaching and didn't think he had a great point in regards to Shads game play for this game I don't remember calling Ben town there?

 

He referred to the previous game and asked me for an analysis of his scum game, so I gave him my analysis of how he played scum last game.

[Gentled Ben]

Have a safe flight.

[BFG]

Am I stupid for entertaining the idea of no lynching?

Yes no maybe?

[BFG]

 

At he moment very confused lol

 

Before I forget completely Tiinker, did you eplain who was dropping hard reads at the time you talked about meta? (Shad asked so i'm assuming there's an answer I haven't seen, but I don't want to forget)

 

I don't really follow the town read on Ben, currently his response to Shad reads a lot like his response to Liz _in as much as I remember) he accounts for the new info the 'if' argument this game, but it hasn't appeared to change anything, based on current VC

Shad went to point out that now had hard claimed yet but then went to drop a hard town read on Sooh. My frustration from last game might have been leaking over, but yeah. Didn't take long.

 

As far as Ben goes, I said that his analysis had interesting points about Shads game play but I came out of that post saying I thought he was reaching and didn't think he had a great point in regards to Shads game play for this game I don't remember calling Ben town there?

Sorry the town reads were from Sooh, Shad and later Verb. Was meant as a separate point not a follow on

[Shad_]

I don't really follow the town read on Ben, currently his response to Shad reads a lot like his response to Liz _in as much as I remember) he accounts for the new info the 'if' argument this game, but it hasn't appeared to change anything, based on current VC

Is it really that similar? Ben's argument with Liz basically boiled down to a claim of miscommunication. Liz called him out for implying that Sooh was a villager, he voted her saying she was putting words in his mouth, some people explained the implications of his statement and he said oh well he didn't mean it that way. They mutually backed off and moved on.

 

Here he gave a coherent meta-based reason that fits the single instance he originally called out. I don't think his argument stands up in the broad scheme of things and his reluctance to adapt is weird to me, but there's a coherent thought process to it from start to finish (at worst he did a very good job of making the pieces fit on the fly).

[Sooh]

I wish I felt more enthusiastic about this lynch. Fact is that I don't have one good scum lean yet, and that bothers me.

[Shad_]

Honestly Ben's play on p27 doesn't feel at all like last game

[Shad_]

I guess this is still p27 lulz

[Clovdyx]

@Ben - I will concede that is not verbatim what you wrote. I wasn't trying to suggest it was - the quotation marks were to illustrate the difference between how I r3ad your post vs what Shad was arguing.

[Clovdyx]

I wish I felt more enthusiastic about this lynch. Fact is that I don't have one good scum lean yet, and that bothers me.

Basically where I am. And DO is literally when I get off

[Shad_]

I mean his play style is goofy and that tends to give bad vibes, but I seem to recall him being a pretty cool cat when he wasn't pushing a suspect before (which he didn't do often).  His suspicion is a lot more dispersed here.

[BFG]

@Ben your read on Shad is that he's probably scum for continuing to push a scum read on you when he hasn't done so (unless counting the joke scum together posts)

 

You didn't like the 'fake read you' comment but acknowledged the if

 

You said his word choice is subtly against you (which I need to check for, but at the time you gave it most of what Shad said was either pointing null or joking you were both scum) this is probably a reasonable assessment

 

your analysis of his scum game doesn't look like this game

 

You think he'd get more from claiming wolf as town than mafia, but scum read him while that was the majority of his content (i actually liked that since it looked like it was a contradiction but probably wasn't and your play seemed cleaner last game)

[Shad_]

Scrappy maybe is the word for it.

 

He can get that way to the point of really overplaying it as a wolf, sure, but that tended to come packaged with an agenda, not just cruising through the thread.

[BFG]

 

At he moment very confused lol

 

Before I forget completely Tiinker, did you eplain who was dropping hard reads at the time you talked about meta? (Shad asked so i'm assuming there's an answer I haven't seen, but I don't want to forget)

 

I don't really follow the town read on Ben, currently his response to Shad reads a lot like his response to Liz _in as much as I remember) he accounts for the new info the 'if' argument this game, but it hasn't appeared to change anything, based on current VC

Shad went to point out that now had hard claimed yet but then went to drop a hard town read on Sooh. My frustration from last game might have been leaking over, but yeah. Didn't take long.

 

As far as Ben goes, I said that his analysis had interesting points about Shads game play but I came out of that post saying I thought he was reaching and didn't think he had a great point in regards to Shads game play for this game I don't remember calling Ben town there?

I'm not sure a hard read that comes afterwards explains frustration beforehand?

[Shad_]

I haven't seen any new info to change my view. What has he done since I said that that should sway me from scum to town or even to null? Why should that sway me? What do you think it means that I haven't been swayed by that? Why?

I do question whether you have an actual vision of what would "sway you" or if it's just tunnel vision.

[Shad_]

 

Am I stupid for entertaining the idea of no lynching?

Yes no maybe?

 

I would give it a solid yes hedging on suspicion towards anyone who would even suggest the possibility.

[Shad_]

You don't no lynch with odd numbers ever. Talk to me when we get a doc save or vig shot.

[BFG]

 

I don't really follow the town read on Ben, currently his response to Shad reads a lot like his response to Liz _in as much as I remember) he accounts for the new info the 'if' argument this game, but it hasn't appeared to change anything, based on current VC

Is it really that similar? Ben's argument with Liz basically boiled down to a claim of miscommunication. Liz called him out for implying that Sooh was a villager, he voted her saying she was putting words in his mouth, some people explained the implications of his statement and he said oh well he didn't mean it that way. They mutually backed off and moved on.

 

Here he gave a coherent meta-based reason that fits the single instance he originally called out. I don't think his argument stands up in the broad scheme of things and his reluctance to adapt is weird to me, but there's a coherent thought process to it from start to finish (at worst he did a very good job of making the pieces fit on the fly).

 

Eh I'll concede you know last game far better than me even with wolf bias but the point isn't whether the arguments the same it's the reaction to ~new information. Last game he concluded that it was miscommunication but left his vote because we were still 'scummy', wasn't able to see how he'd have adapted that read during the game :P but this seems similar. Following your argument he seemed to concede most of the reasons he thinks you're scum, but still has you as scummy

 

His read on me also seems early

[BFG]

@Ben can you point out where I was showing signs of paranoia, and where Shad was word slugging against you? :)

[Shad_]

I wish I felt more enthusiastic about this lynch. Fact is that I don't have one good scum lean yet, and that bothers me.

That's the first   thing you've said all game haha

[BFG]

I mean his play style is goofy and that tends to give bad vibes, but I seem to recall him being a pretty cool cat when he wasn't pushing a suspect before (which he didn't do often). His suspicion is a lot more dispersed here.

The early push and lack of fluff are good looks lol

[Shad_]

Do you ever have a good scum lean on D1?  I usually don't.

[BFG]

Do you ever have a good scum lean on D1? I usually don't.

Sometimes, sometimes I feel better about more people which gives me a more solid Poe

[Shad_]

Eh I'll concede you know last game far better than me even with wolf bias but the point isn't whether the arguments the same it's the reaction to ~new information. Last game he concluded that it was miscommunication but left his vote because we were still 'scummy', wasn't able to see how he'd have adapted that read during the game :P but this seems similar. Following your argument he seemed to concede most of the reasons he thinks you're scum, but still has you as scummy

 

His read on me also seems early

tbf I completely forgot he offered a reason to keep his vote on you. I thought he was calling you town and just didn't move it yet (possibly for low accountability).

 

So yeah there's a closer parallel if he continued to call you wolfy post-reasons.