The Mafia Parable: Basic Game OVER

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

UNOFFICIAL Vote Count:

Clov (1/7): SK
Hally (5/7): Adella, Nyn, Clov, Rand, Marsh
Rand (1/7): DPR
Adella (2/7): Sooh, LZM
Nyn (1/7): Hally

Not Voting (2/12):
Verb, Ben

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

[snipped]

1. Take responsibility? Lol what responsibility is going to happen, you're just going to say you're wrong, like everyone else on the train, and nothing is going to happen to you. These are just empty words that you say to make yourself look better

2. Fair, I guess I haven't remembered your contributions as well as others. Tbf though, you haven't had much of a presence in this game until very recently, like literally today. You have the 2nd least posts on the thread, only ahead of SK, behind Hally, and most of those came recently, you had a huge gap mid day.

3. Lol, I was here before you today, what are you even talking about.

1. What I'm saying is I don't mind being lynched over my vote. I have no role, and I'm far more interested in the town (and by extension myself) winning than staying alive.

2. RL kept me out of the game yesterday. I'm working my butt off (in class, btw) to make up for that now. And my post count is always low, regardless of what game or alignment. It has no bearing on my case, or your affected ignorance thereof.

Damn it forgot to respond to the other quotes.

To the vote on Rand quote: Wonderful, jump off the two biggest trains at 20 minutes till EoD and leave them tied. At the very least, I hope you intend to stay until the DL to move your vote if necessary.

To the Sooh quote: We get to see that regardless of whether the trains are tied or not

I'll be here until the mod says to stop posting.

Why tf do you guys keep soft claiming, jfc, stop, its completely unnecessary and in almost every circumstance it gives mafia more information than it gives town.

Never said it has any bearing on you being town/scum, but yeah it does have an effect on me able to remember the reads you made. I'm not taking notes here, I'm going off memory, and if you don't post as much as other people, regardless of the reason, I'm not going to remember what you said, as simple as that. You're in class right now, if you're not taking notes, what are you going to remember, the short 5 minute detour the professor take or the half hour he spends breaking down the details of one concept. This isn't hard to understand.

The reason I have a hard time believing that is that pretty much every mafia player I've ever know, including me, has excellent memory for cases made against themselves. I may not remember everything a given player has posted, but I'll definitely remember them hinting that I'm scum.

I made a sus against you, and you responded. That should be easily enough to impress it in your memory. To take your own metaphor, I'm definitely going to remember the part of class where the prof pointed at me and asked a question, even if I forget the rest of the two hours.

Honestly, that's pretty fair and I'm not sure why I don't remember your case on me, maybe I was autopiloting, or I was too focused on DPR hounding on me like a hungry dog.

But let me put it this way. What do I have to gain by pretending I didn't remember your case, if it would've been easy for you to go back and prove me wrong? Like it's a null read, there is no way it would benefit me to pretend I forgot about something.

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

We have a minute left

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

And there's deadline so technically Hally's dead but not officially yet. Can someone tell me if the rules have changed on if dead people are allowed to talk until they're officially dead, or until the deadline? Iirc, it used to be until they're officially dead

Sooh · August 11, 2017

And there's deadline so technically Hally's dead but not officially yet. Can someone tell me if the rules have changed on if dead people are allowed to talk until they're officially dead, or until the deadline? Iirc, it used to be until they're officially dead

Usually deadline means stop posting. Especially if you're the one who died.

Ironeyes · August 11, 2017

[snipped]

1. Take responsibility? Lol what responsibility is going to happen, you're just going to say you're wrong, like everyone else on the train, and nothing is going to happen to you. These are just empty words that you say to make yourself look better

2. Fair, I guess I haven't remembered your contributions as well as others. Tbf though, you haven't had much of a presence in this game until very recently, like literally today. You have the 2nd least posts on the thread, only ahead of SK, behind Hally, and most of those came recently, you had a huge gap mid day.

3. Lol, I was here before you today, what are you even talking about.

1. What I'm saying is I don't mind being lynched over my vote. I have no role, and I'm far more interested in the town (and by extension myself) winning than staying alive.

2. RL kept me out of the game yesterday. I'm working my butt off (in class, btw) to make up for that now. And my post count is always low, regardless of what game or alignment. It has no bearing on my case, or your affected ignorance thereof.

Damn it forgot to respond to the other quotes.

To the vote on Rand quote: Wonderful, jump off the two biggest trains at 20 minutes till EoD and leave them tied. At the very least, I hope you intend to stay until the DL to move your vote if necessary.

To the Sooh quote: We get to see that regardless of whether the trains are tied or not

I'll be here until the mod says to stop posting.

Why tf do you guys keep soft claiming, jfc, stop, its completely unnecessary and in almost every circumstance it gives mafia more information than it gives town.

Never said it has any bearing on you being town/scum, but yeah it does have an effect on me able to remember the reads you made. I'm not taking notes here, I'm going off memory, and if you don't post as much as other people, regardless of the reason, I'm not going to remember what you said, as simple as that. You're in class right now, if you're not taking notes, what are you going to remember, the short 5 minute detour the professor take or the half hour he spends breaking down the details of one concept. This isn't hard to understand.

The reason I have a hard time believing that is that pretty much every mafia player I've ever know, including me, has excellent memory for cases made against themselves. I may not remember everything a given player has posted, but I'll definitely remember them hinting that I'm scum.

I made a sus against you, and you responded. That should be easily enough to impress it in your memory. To take your own metaphor, I'm definitely going to remember the part of class where the prof pointed at me and asked a question, even if I forget the rest of the two hours.

Honestly, that's pretty fair and I'm not sure why I don't remember your case on me, maybe I was autopiloting, or I was too focused on DPR hounding on me like a hungry dog.

But let me put it this way. What do I have to gain by pretending I didn't remember your case, if it would've been easy for you to go back and prove me wrong? Like it's a null read, there is no way it would benefit me to pretend I forgot about something.

That's a much better question, and it pokes a nice hole through my theory since my answer is pretty weak. But here it is anyway, because because.

It could be a simple slip, due to being under pressure. In my mind, it fits in with the larger theme of you directing attention away from cases against you, and I could see scum!you being worried (about an impending lynch on a teammate, perhaps) and distracted and not thinking through the ramifications of that particular defense.

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

And there's deadline so technically Hally's dead but not officially yet. Can someone tell me if the rules have changed on if dead people are allowed to talk until they're officially dead, or until the deadline? Iirc, it used to be until they're officially dead

Usually deadline means stop posting. Especially if you're the one who died.

Well I mean we have night talk so we're fine right?

[snipped]

1. Take responsibility? Lol what responsibility is going to happen, you're just going to say you're wrong, like everyone else on the train, and nothing is going to happen to you. These are just empty words that you say to make yourself look better

2. Fair, I guess I haven't remembered your contributions as well as others. Tbf though, you haven't had much of a presence in this game until very recently, like literally today. You have the 2nd least posts on the thread, only ahead of SK, behind Hally, and most of those came recently, you had a huge gap mid day.

3. Lol, I was here before you today, what are you even talking about.

1. What I'm saying is I don't mind being lynched over my vote. I have no role, and I'm far more interested in the town (and by extension myself) winning than staying alive.

2. RL kept me out of the game yesterday. I'm working my butt off (in class, btw) to make up for that now. And my post count is always low, regardless of what game or alignment. It has no bearing on my case, or your affected ignorance thereof.

Damn it forgot to respond to the other quotes.

To the vote on Rand quote: Wonderful, jump off the two biggest trains at 20 minutes till EoD and leave them tied. At the very least, I hope you intend to stay until the DL to move your vote if necessary.

To the Sooh quote: We get to see that regardless of whether the trains are tied or not

I'll be here until the mod says to stop posting.

Why tf do you guys keep soft claiming, jfc, stop, its completely unnecessary and in almost every circumstance it gives mafia more information than it gives town.

Never said it has any bearing on you being town/scum, but yeah it does have an effect on me able to remember the reads you made. I'm not taking notes here, I'm going off memory, and if you don't post as much as other people, regardless of the reason, I'm not going to remember what you said, as simple as that. You're in class right now, if you're not taking notes, what are you going to remember, the short 5 minute detour the professor take or the half hour he spends breaking down the details of one concept. This isn't hard to understand.

The reason I have a hard time believing that is that pretty much every mafia player I've ever know, including me, has excellent memory for cases made against themselves. I may not remember everything a given player has posted, but I'll definitely remember them hinting that I'm scum.

I made a sus against you, and you responded. That should be easily enough to impress it in your memory. To take your own metaphor, I'm definitely going to remember the part of class where the prof pointed at me and asked a question, even if I forget the rest of the two hours.

Honestly, that's pretty fair and I'm not sure why I don't remember your case on me, maybe I was autopiloting, or I was too focused on DPR hounding on me like a hungry dog.

But let me put it this way. What do I have to gain by pretending I didn't remember your case, if it would've been easy for you to go back and prove me wrong? Like it's a null read, there is no way it would benefit me to pretend I forgot about something.

That's a much better question, and it pokes a nice hole through my theory since my answer is pretty weak. But here it is anyway, because because.

It could be a simple slip, due to being under pressure. In my mind, it fits in with the larger theme of you directing attention away from cases against you, and I could see scum!you being worried (about an impending lynch on a teammate, perhaps) and distracted and not thinking through the ramifications of that particular defense.

I don't think I've been directing cases away from me at all (other than this and this wasn't on purpose). I've been refuting I believe every single point against me, so religiously so that apparently I forgot that I did that to you lol. And haha, I'm not that sloppy of a player, or at least I hope not :P

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

We've just passed through DL and there are 3 people actively posting, does that not seem weird to anyone else?

Sooh · August 11, 2017

We've just passed through DL and there are 3 people actively posting, does that not seem weird to anyone else?

Why would it be?

Nynaeve · August 11, 2017

From my part i couldnt care less what you guys are yapping about lol. I just want the flip

Darthe · August 11, 2017

Hmmm.

Well I goofed, this is three hours before I get off work.

Yall may have to wait a bit. Hally youre free to talk until you ~3 hours from now.

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

We've just passed through DL and there are 3 people actively posting, does that not seem weird to anyone else?

Why would it be?

Generally people should be here during or close to DL to help make sure the votes are cast on the best possible option and, as Nyn said, to see the flip. I don't know what to make of it, it just seems odd.

Ironeyes · August 11, 2017

Hmmm.

Well I goofed, this is three hours before I get off work.

Yall may have to wait a bit. Hally youre free to talk until you ~3 hours from now.

Is voting closed?

Sooh · August 11, 2017

*headdesk*

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarthe!

Sooh · August 11, 2017

We've just passed through DL and there are 3 people actively posting, does that not seem weird to anyone else?

Why would it be?

Generally people should be here during or close to DL to help make sure the votes are cast on the best possible option and, as Nyn said, to see the flip. I don't know what to make of it, it just seems odd.

So it's a good thing that some people are here actively posting? Or is it bad? Or is it neutral and this has nothing to do with alignments and more with you making conversation about how mafia is weird?

Ironeyes · August 11, 2017

We've just passed through DL and there are 3 people actively posting, does that not seem weird to anyone else?

Why would it be?

Generally people should be here during or close to DL to help make sure the votes are cast on the best possible option and, as Nyn said, to see the flip. I don't know what to make of it, it just seems odd.

I usually try to shut up after the deadline passes since some mods will get peeved.

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

Hmmm.

Well I goofed, this is three hours before I get off work.

Yall may have to wait a bit. Hally youre free to talk until you ~3 hours from now.

Hmmm, I don't remember this level of incompetence from you :wink: jk, guess you'll leave us in suspense for a bit longer. Good news is that Hally can still talk, so I'd really like her to come back and say her final words before she dies. If she's scum, obviously disregard anything she says, but if she does flip town, then at least we'll get a globally recognized unbiased perspective, though the accuracy of it could obviously be off.

RandA lThor · August 11, 2017

We've just passed through DL and there are 3 people actively posting, does that not seem weird to anyone else?

Why would it be?

Generally people should be here during or close to DL to help make sure the votes are cast on the best possible option and, as Nyn said, to see the flip. I don't know what to make of it, it just seems odd.

So it's a good thing that some people are here actively posting? Or is it bad? Or is it neutral and this has nothing to do with alignments and more with you making conversation about how mafia is weird?

I don't know if good/bad can be associated with this, but I think it shows a sign of interest and effort in the game if you're able to be here during DL and help vote (or at least mentioned before you couldn't be here like LZM). A lack of on the other end.

We've just passed through DL and there are 3 people actively posting, does that not seem weird to anyone else?

Why would it be?

Generally people should be here during or close to DL to help make sure the votes are cast on the best possible option and, as Nyn said, to see the flip. I don't know what to make of it, it just seems odd.

I usually try to shut up after the deadline passes since some mods will get peeved.

Well that's our difference, I don't care if Darthe gets peeved :P

In all seriousness, I don't think that was a thing when I was here, so I never really thought of it like that

Verbal32 · August 11, 2017

Verbal?
O.o

I dont get why he's not here

Stuck in a meeting, just finished. I see we passed DL. I'm fine with that - I was ok with a lynch on any of my current suspects, so I'll just wait for the flip.

Ironeyes · August 11, 2017

Well if he doesn't mind us talking, I'll keep talking. More interesting than review of Spanish concepts I learned six years ago.

Darthe · August 11, 2017

Hmmm.

Well I goofed, this is three hours before I get off work.

Yall may have to wait a bit. Hally youre free to talk until you ~3 hours from now.

Is voting closed?

Yes, DL has passed

Verbal32 · August 11, 2017

FYI, we have a holiday in Rhode Island on Monday, and I'm taking Tuesday as a vacation day, so I'll be very sporadic. I'll try to keep up as best I can via phone, though.

Don't set the place on fire while I'm gone.

Ok, maybe just put the fire out when you're done?

Darthe · August 11, 2017

I mean, I have a premade scene and I know her role/alignment.. It just feels wrong to not format it like I can on a full comp.

Sooh · August 11, 2017

I mean, I have a premade scene and I know her role/alignment.. It just feels wrong to not format it like I can on a full comp.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

*smacks Darthe*

Ironeyes · August 11, 2017

Another benefit to a Hallia lynch that I just realized is that it gives us a better look at Nyn's alignment. If Hally flips town, I'd be more willing to lynch Nyn tomorrow.

Skkrrrrrt.

[unvote]

[v] Ironeyes [/v]

This reeks of setting up mislynches.

Maybe I'm wrong on Nyn. Had a really important job interview today, hence being scarce. Trying to catch up.

Nyn already challenged me on this, and I'll give you the same explanation I gave her. I'm posting my thoughts wholesale, without trying to filter them. I believe this is the way to play that will prove most valuable to my fellow town, since they can get a clear look into my head and read me based on that.

This statement was a passing speculation that doesn't hold much weight.

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