Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

Sooh · July 14, 2017

Up to page 15, starting to see the discussion about subbing. Thought I'd post my impressions before diving down the rabbit hole

Def liking Spades content-wise so far, although she has an unfortunate tendency to misinterpret my posts. It's ok, we'll get used to each other. Bop I like somewhat less, but that hydra is overall feeling town to me.

Derf gonna derf. Why that guy consistently feels the need to drop a cryptic, discussion inducing comment and the peace out is beyond me.

I hope and pray that Cordyx is (are? grammar is hard) town. Not only are they good players, but if they're town I can confidently sheep Clov's read on Edrick. I'm not very good at reading him myself, as history shows.

Mrs. Clov, thank you for being a wonderful, active, engaged, mod-confirmed town. Def not brown nosing lol

Cory quoted this post. I haven't read the context of it, but I would like to point out that this reads almost like TMI.

Parphrase: I've read up to THE discussion about subs, but that's going to be a long and complicated one to read which I know for ??? reasons, so I'll just post what I'm thinking before that.

Am I reading too much into it?

Ironeyes, perhaps you can explain why you would call something you haven't read yet a rabbit hole?

Zander? · July 14, 2017

im having a hard time reading zander and part of it is me not wanting to be spiteful due to the tunnel.

I agree with everything clov said, adn i think i expressed it at the time(ie the focus on penny making no sense). I feel like he saw me call him wolf and since then he's been locked in this thunderdome and even though he hasnt pursued it as hard he keeps making sarcastic comments about how you could read me/spades as town and condescending comments to spades that just shows no reconsidering the idea. I asked the otherday if he gets ultra defensive when called a wolf ebcause usually i would expect either a jokey quip(ie a you got me breaking bad gif or something similar) or maybe even a wolf read because he sometimes people find using the rand wolf sub out line as wolfy or a easy way to cast suspicion and i would have understood that. But the full on thunderdome was unexpected.

Also a couple selfish things where he liked clov for his read on eldrick early on but several posts earlier i gave the same read and nothing.

I find the you don't read me villa, you are a wolf line a bit odd as well(the line he's taken with eldrick) especially since a reason he was villa reading clov was the eldrick read which i assume he somewhat agreed with since he also had eldrick as a villa earlier as well.

*for sooh/cory other MUers* i'm kinda reading the cory/zander dynamic as similar to the banks/JP dynamic that exists in their games. That is regardless of alignment JP is always buddying with banks and nowt pushing him or evaluating early and based on what i know of zander/cory through seeing them interact on MUdiscord(zander shouting out to cory the few times i've seen him pop in etc) and hearing cory talk abotu zander outside of game they are buddies and zander seems like someone who gravitates and allies with his buddies in games(purely my opinion).

Spades has been concerned with zander buddying right up to cody and i've been assuming thats a normal thing for him, if that isn't a normal thing please let me know.

so im at this point and im kinda tired and in a fugue and completely dont know where i was going. So if i derailed or my point got muddled in here sorry. this is where im at on zander

If this slot wasn't town before, this is very towny imo.

#raisins?!?!?!

This is the specific question I had for you

Eldrick name the reasons you think Im pushing Sbop
All I can see is that you pursued asking him if he knew if penny subbed out as scum. But because this has no bearing on the game being she subbed out before the game started, I don't understand the reason for this.

You said there was something else about his posts you didn't like, but I'm blanking on what it was. I actually wanted to ask you for example of it.

For someone who claims to be trying to figure me out, this shows the fact youre not man.

Youve like at least 3-4 posts saying im not reading Zander Town, Zander you need to show me youre Town and Im not getting what youre saying/pushing yet Ive got like prolly at least 20 posts explaining why I sussed for the original reason. multiple posts explaining other issues ive had with them and youre still like I cant figure out you out Zander....this is why I cant read you Town.

ISO me and look if youre a Villager man.

Already said I'm not gonna ISO you. I never do. You say too much.

People likely never ISO me either :P

If you're a villager you can answer my questions directly so I can understand you. If you're scum, you can just ignore me and let my suspicion stay.

[v] Eld [/v]

This is such a cop out post.

Town!Eld dont speak in absolutes like this....only Sith do

Zander can you explain why you think it's a cop out, or what you mean by cop out.

I'm having trouble here with the correlation between accusing him of copping out and also him speaking in absolutes.

Or is the cop out the refusal to ISO you? Which if this is the case why are you voting Eldrick over Iron who also said he doesn't ISO you as a policy.

you should read the game before saying i didnt answer this imo

clov even quoted my response to it.

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

This is the specific question I had for you

Eldrick name the reasons you think Im pushing Sbop
All I can see is that you pursued asking him if he knew if penny subbed out as scum. But because this has no bearing on the game being she subbed out before the game started, I don't understand the reason for this.

You said there was something else about his posts you didn't like, but I'm blanking on what it was. I actually wanted to ask you for example of it.

For someone who claims to be trying to figure me out, this shows the fact youre not man.

Youve like at least 3-4 posts saying im not reading Zander Town, Zander you need to show me youre Town and Im not getting what youre saying/pushing yet Ive got like prolly at least 20 posts explaining why I sussed for the original reason. multiple posts explaining other issues ive had with them and youre still like I cant figure out you out Zander....this is why I cant read you Town.

ISO me and look if youre a Villager man.

Already said I'm not gonna ISO you. I never do. You say too much.

People likely never ISO me either :P

If you're a villager you can answer my questions directly so I can understand you. If you're scum, you can just ignore me and let my suspicion stay.

[v] Eld [/v]

This is such a cop out post.

Town!Eld dont speak in absolutes like this....only Sith do

Zander can you explain why you think it's a cop out, or what you mean by cop out.

I'm having trouble here with the correlation between accusing him of copping out and also him speaking in absolutes.

Or is the cop out the refusal to ISO you? Which if this is the case why are you voting Eldrick over Iron who also said he doesn't ISO you as a policy.

TFW Zander ignores you and your question directed at him

what did

i miss?

Literally all of my content up til this point and my specific question addressed to you about your push on Eldrick

Ive explained my Eld read.

I read your analysis on SBop and me. I liked it and agreed with it, i also noted your reads list and I wanted to see how and where you went with it.

But since you wnt to know 2 things immediately popped into my head after seeing those 2 things: GOAT!Villager or TMI.

Ive got no Meta on you so thats why I kinda wanted to see where you went with it,

0 desire to lynch you today.

If theres anything else ask again directly please

I did twice, it was more trying to get clarification on the wording you used and why you didn't pounce on Iron for saying something nearly identical.

Spadeszee · July 14, 2017

That doesnt quite feel fair. It did die, but nothing really replaced it because there wasnt a good reason for it to be replaced. This is a function of scruff being quiet and not of someone else warranting significant votes, which is a problem cause that train did have validity.

2 things, one is that Scruff and Coward are in the same boat. The big difference is that Coward knows people here and is choosing not to post. Scruff is such an easy kill, such and easy vote.

Other thing is Zander is currently getting heat so it seems like we have 3 possibilities right now to get lynched- Scruff, Coward or Zander.

Of course this can change.

That is your biggest reason for pushing a Scruff vote over a Coward vote?

Cory Caboose · July 14, 2017

Spades what's your read on me ATM

Zander? · July 14, 2017

I just want you all to know I'm ISO-ing Zander without my coffee. SOS.

God Bless you.

Its too bad I already know youre a Villager...lolololol

Lol is ISOing you a town tell now?

Its not but its somewhat Villagery...lololol

That's an interesting response, Z.

I assumed youd look back and get it right.

You want me to go full sassy redhead?

???

Do what you need to do, you said it was an interesting response, I told you why it was my response?

please dont go #fullsassyredhead!!!!

The thing is, Z. You can't expect someone to read you as town because you jump up and down and say your town. You need to SHOW me why your town. Because right now all I see is you getting worked in a tizzy over how people actually view you with out doing anything to change said view or solve other people.

that is how i Town tho...

sadface,gif

Cory Chris. Sooh and others who have played with have said so, except for Eld tho thats just because hes a Wolf!!!

Ill tell you what give me a flip and Ill show you Im Town?

Am I seriously your BIGGEST Scum read and NEED to be mislynched today?!?!!?!?

Im Town here I promise on my love of bacon, chris, cory poutine, bacon and 90's music!!!!!!

Ironeyes · July 14, 2017

He prob wont like that

Obvious derf is obvious

Zander? · July 14, 2017

This is the specific question I had for you

Eldrick name the reasons you think Im pushing Sbop
All I can see is that you pursued asking him if he knew if penny subbed out as scum. But because this has no bearing on the game being she subbed out before the game started, I don't understand the reason for this.

You said there was something else about his posts you didn't like, but I'm blanking on what it was. I actually wanted to ask you for example of it.

For someone who claims to be trying to figure me out, this shows the fact youre not man.

Youve like at least 3-4 posts saying im not reading Zander Town, Zander you need to show me youre Town and Im not getting what youre saying/pushing yet Ive got like prolly at least 20 posts explaining why I sussed for the original reason. multiple posts explaining other issues ive had with them and youre still like I cant figure out you out Zander....this is why I cant read you Town.

ISO me and look if youre a Villager man.

Already said I'm not gonna ISO you. I never do. You say too much.

People likely never ISO me either :P

If you're a villager you can answer my questions directly so I can understand you. If you're scum, you can just ignore me and let my suspicion stay.

[v] Eld [/v]

This is such a cop out post.

Town!Eld dont speak in absolutes like this....only Sith do

Zander can you explain why you think it's a cop out, or what you mean by cop out.

I'm having trouble here with the correlation between accusing him of copping out and also him speaking in absolutes.

Or is the cop out the refusal to ISO you? Which if this is the case why are you voting Eldrick over Iron who also said he doesn't ISO you as a policy.

TFW Zander ignores you and your question directed at him

what did

i miss?

Literally all of my content up til this point and my specific question addressed to you about your push on Eldrick

Ive explained my Eld read.

I read your analysis on SBop and me. I liked it and agreed with it, i also noted your reads list and I wanted to see how and where you went with it.

But since you wnt to know 2 things immediately popped into my head after seeing those 2 things: GOAT!Villager or TMI.

Ive got no Meta on you so thats why I kinda wanted to see where you went with it,

0 desire to lynch you today.

If theres anything else ask again directly please

I did twice, it was more trying to get clarification on the wording you used and why you didn't pounce on Iron for saying something nearly identical.

i answered the cop out part in my response too

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

im having a hard time reading zander and part of it is me not wanting to be spiteful due to the tunnel.

I agree with everything clov said, adn i think i expressed it at the time(ie the focus on penny making no sense). I feel like he saw me call him wolf and since then he's been locked in this thunderdome and even though he hasnt pursued it as hard he keeps making sarcastic comments about how you could read me/spades as town and condescending comments to spades that just shows no reconsidering the idea. I asked the otherday if he gets ultra defensive when called a wolf ebcause usually i would expect either a jokey quip(ie a you got me breaking bad gif or something similar) or maybe even a wolf read because he sometimes people find using the rand wolf sub out line as wolfy or a easy way to cast suspicion and i would have understood that. But the full on thunderdome was unexpected.

Also a couple selfish things where he liked clov for his read on eldrick early on but several posts earlier i gave the same read and nothing.

I find the you don't read me villa, you are a wolf line a bit odd as well(the line he's taken with eldrick) especially since a reason he was villa reading clov was the eldrick read which i assume he somewhat agreed with since he also had eldrick as a villa earlier as well.

*for sooh/cory other MUers* i'm kinda reading the cory/zander dynamic as similar to the banks/JP dynamic that exists in their games. That is regardless of alignment JP is always buddying with banks and nowt pushing him or evaluating early and based on what i know of zander/cory through seeing them interact on MUdiscord(zander shouting out to cory the few times i've seen him pop in etc) and hearing cory talk abotu zander outside of game they are buddies and zander seems like someone who gravitates and allies with his buddies in games(purely my opinion).

Spades has been concerned with zander buddying right up to cody and i've been assuming thats a normal thing for him, if that isn't a normal thing please let me know.

so im at this point and im kinda tired and in a fugue and completely dont know where i was going. So if i derailed or my point got muddled in here sorry. this is where im at on zander

If this slot wasn't town before, this is very towny imo.

#raisins?!?!?!

This is the specific question I had for you

Eldrick name the reasons you think Im pushing Sbop
All I can see is that you pursued asking him if he knew if penny subbed out as scum. But because this has no bearing on the game being she subbed out before the game started, I don't understand the reason for this.

You said there was something else about his posts you didn't like, but I'm blanking on what it was. I actually wanted to ask you for example of it.

For someone who claims to be trying to figure me out, this shows the fact youre not man.

Youve like at least 3-4 posts saying im not reading Zander Town, Zander you need to show me youre Town and Im not getting what youre saying/pushing yet Ive got like prolly at least 20 posts explaining why I sussed for the original reason. multiple posts explaining other issues ive had with them and youre still like I cant figure out you out Zander....this is why I cant read you Town.

ISO me and look if youre a Villager man.

Already said I'm not gonna ISO you. I never do. You say too much.

People likely never ISO me either :P

If you're a villager you can answer my questions directly so I can understand you. If you're scum, you can just ignore me and let my suspicion stay.

[v] Eld [/v]

This is such a cop out post.

Town!Eld dont speak in absolutes like this....only Sith do

Zander can you explain why you think it's a cop out, or what you mean by cop out.

I'm having trouble here with the correlation between accusing him of copping out and also him speaking in absolutes.

Or is the cop out the refusal to ISO you? Which if this is the case why are you voting Eldrick over Iron who also said he doesn't ISO you as a policy.

you should read the game before saying i didnt answer this imo

clov even quoted my response to it.

Fair enough, but you should really answer the part about Iron, because it's the more important part of the question, also the answer doesn't really address what the cop out is. The answer is almost completely irrelevant to the question, which is why I missed it in the first place.

Zander? · July 14, 2017

[unvote][v]zander[/v]

He prob wont like that

it dont bug me because youre either Scum or continuing to be the wrose Zander reader on DM,

i know the type of person you are and Im not gonna valaidate it by getting all worked up

fdlfmd

MrsClov · July 14, 2017

I just want you all to know I'm ISO-ing Zander without my coffee. SOS.

God Bless you.

Its too bad I already know youre a Villager...lolololol

Lol is ISOing you a town tell now?

Its not but its somewhat Villagery...lololol

That's an interesting response, Z.

I assumed youd look back and get it right.

You want me to go full sassy redhead?

???

Do what you need to do, you said it was an interesting response, I told you why it was my response?

please dont go #fullsassyredhead!!!!

The thing is, Z. You can't expect someone to read you as town because you jump up and down and say your town. You need to SHOW me why your town. Because right now all I see is you getting worked in a tizzy over how people actually view you with out doing anything to change said view or solve other people.

that is how i Town tho...

sadface,gif

Cory Chris. Sooh and others who have played with have said so, except for Eld tho thats just because hes a Wolf!!!

Ill tell you what give me a flip and Ill show you Im Town?

Am I seriously your BIGGEST Scum read and NEED to be mislynched today?!?!!?!?

Im Town here I promise on my love of bacon, chris, cory poutine, bacon and 90's music!!!!!!

It's also something that can easily be faked as scum without much effort. Begging/ bartering with me really isn't the way to go with me.

Ironeyes · July 14, 2017

That doesnt quite feel fair. It did die, but nothing really replaced it because there wasnt a good reason for it to be replaced. This is a function of scruff being quiet and not of someone else warranting significant votes, which is a problem cause that train did have validity.

^^This

Zander? · July 14, 2017

The thing with Zander as a wolf in this situation is multiple people (including Linz) told him he was hitting a wall, that he wasn't progressing thought. It wasn't until Cory told him to back off (and even then he still continued to bring it up and focus on me) that he pulled back a little. It doesn't seem like he has thought process about how his actions are being perceived. IDK if Wolf Zander does this as well, but I'd find it really odd if a wolf went around in so many circles unless they were just trying to be annoying. Where as for town it just looks like he has hyper focus issues. He's not looking at the bigger picture and people have mentioned this. Maybe because he has been getting town read he hasn't felt the need to move onto the big picture?

I also always take people focusing me a little personally. I'm trying really hard to not do that, but I can't help it. I don't think I've been able to really read Zander because I'm confused by him and most of his points have made very little sense to me. I've felt maybe it's my bias for being hounded.

IDK, I'm kind of lost here right now.

This is not uncommon. Zander doesn't listen to a whole lot of people when he's in tunnel mode. Cory is an exception.

"One cannot control Zander, you can only hope to contain him."

-Cory Curren

-Zander

Cory Caboose · July 14, 2017

Linz

ILY

I understand why you got to your read and I imagine in your shoes I would probably would think the same thing

But Zander's a villager in like 99 out of 100 worlds

Zander? · July 14, 2017

I just want you all to know I'm ISO-ing Zander without my coffee. SOS.

God Bless you.

Its too bad I already know youre a Villager...lolololol

Lol is ISOing you a town tell now?

Its not but its somewhat Villagery...lololol

That's an interesting response, Z.

I assumed youd look back and get it right.

You want me to go full sassy redhead?

???

Do what you need to do, you said it was an interesting response, I told you why it was my response?

please dont go #fullsassyredhead!!!!

The thing is, Z. You can't expect someone to read you as town because you jump up and down and say your town. You need to SHOW me why your town. Because right now all I see is you getting worked in a tizzy over how people actually view you with out doing anything to change said view or solve other people.

that is how i Town tho...

sadface,gif

Cory Chris. Sooh and others who have played with have said so, except for Eld tho thats just because hes a Wolf!!!

Ill tell you what give me a flip and Ill show you Im Town?

Am I seriously your BIGGEST Scum read and NEED to be mislynched today?!?!!?!?

Im Town here I promise on my love of bacon, chris, cory poutine, bacon and 90's music!!!!!!

It's also something that can easily be faked as scum without much effort. Begging/ bartering with me really isn't the way to go with me.

you really cant sense my jokes can you?

You think Sooh Cory nd Clov are all wrong on me and or Wolves?

Do you use Meta?

Have you tried ISOing any of my games?

Ive answered/adressed everything asked of me

Iv given more reads/w reasoning then most?

What is it that you want from me exactly?

How can I alleviate your concerns???

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

This is the specific question I had for you

Eldrick name the reasons you think Im pushing Sbop
All I can see is that you pursued asking him if he knew if penny subbed out as scum. But because this has no bearing on the game being she subbed out before the game started, I don't understand the reason for this.

You said there was something else about his posts you didn't like, but I'm blanking on what it was. I actually wanted to ask you for example of it.

For someone who claims to be trying to figure me out, this shows the fact youre not man.

Youve like at least 3-4 posts saying im not reading Zander Town, Zander you need to show me youre Town and Im not getting what youre saying/pushing yet Ive got like prolly at least 20 posts explaining why I sussed for the original reason. multiple posts explaining other issues ive had with them and youre still like I cant figure out you out Zander....this is why I cant read you Town.

ISO me and look if youre a Villager man.

Already said I'm not gonna ISO you. I never do. You say too much.

People likely never ISO me either :P

If you're a villager you can answer my questions directly so I can understand you. If you're scum, you can just ignore me and let my suspicion stay.

[v] Eld [/v]

This is such a cop out post.

Town!Eld dont speak in absolutes like this....only Sith do

Zander can you explain why you think it's a cop out, or what you mean by cop out.

I'm having trouble here with the correlation between accusing him of copping out and also him speaking in absolutes.

Or is the cop out the refusal to ISO you? Which if this is the case why are you voting Eldrick over Iron who also said he doesn't ISO you as a policy.

TFW Zander ignores you and your question directed at him

what did

i miss?

Literally all of my content up til this point and my specific question addressed to you about your push on Eldrick

Ive explained my Eld read.

I read your analysis on SBop and me. I liked it and agreed with it, i also noted your reads list and I wanted to see how and where you went with it.

But since you wnt to know 2 things immediately popped into my head after seeing those 2 things: GOAT!Villager or TMI.

Ive got no Meta on you so thats why I kinda wanted to see where you went with it,

0 desire to lynch you today.

If theres anything else ask again directly please

I did twice, it was more trying to get clarification on the wording you used and why you didn't pounce on Iron for saying something nearly identical.

i answered the cop out part in my response too

So would you say Iron has trouble reading you?

Cory Caboose · July 14, 2017

It's like 5 hours to EoD

I want votes on Coward or Scruffington

Spadeszee · July 14, 2017

Spades what's your read on me ATM

I don't feel like you're being controlling or manipulative. You're asking questions (really good questions) and also listening to everyone fairly. I would however like it if you answer your own questions/prompts.

I would also really like you to look at my concerns on Zander, I know he's on your top Town and you have experience with him. But look at my concerns from a perspective of someone who hasn't played with him before. Maybe you could shed light on his actions that isn't just attached to his meta as to how his behavior is town. I'm not trying to change your mind about him but I really need help with understanding him and I think you're capable of saying it in a way that isn't just brushing his behaviors off as "loljustZanderthings".

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

This is the specific question I had for you

Eldrick name the reasons you think Im pushing Sbop
All I can see is that you pursued asking him if he knew if penny subbed out as scum. But because this has no bearing on the game being she subbed out before the game started, I don't understand the reason for this.

You said there was something else about his posts you didn't like, but I'm blanking on what it was. I actually wanted to ask you for example of it.

For someone who claims to be trying to figure me out, this shows the fact youre not man.

Youve like at least 3-4 posts saying im not reading Zander Town, Zander you need to show me youre Town and Im not getting what youre saying/pushing yet Ive got like prolly at least 20 posts explaining why I sussed for the original reason. multiple posts explaining other issues ive had with them and youre still like I cant figure out you out Zander....this is why I cant read you Town.

ISO me and look if youre a Villager man.

Already said I'm not gonna ISO you. I never do. You say too much.

People likely never ISO me either :P

If you're a villager you can answer my questions directly so I can understand you. If you're scum, you can just ignore me and let my suspicion stay.

[v] Eld [/v]

This is such a cop out post.

Town!Eld dont speak in absolutes like this....only Sith do

Zander can you explain why you think it's a cop out, or what you mean by cop out.

I'm having trouble here with the correlation between accusing him of copping out and also him speaking in absolutes.

Or is the cop out the refusal to ISO you? Which if this is the case why are you voting Eldrick over Iron who also said he doesn't ISO you as a policy.

TFW Zander ignores you and your question directed at him

what did

i miss?

Literally all of my content up til this point and my specific question addressed to you about your push on Eldrick

Ive explained my Eld read.

I read your analysis on SBop and me. I liked it and agreed with it, i also noted your reads list and I wanted to see how and where you went with it.

But since you wnt to know 2 things immediately popped into my head after seeing those 2 things: GOAT!Villager or TMI.

Ive got no Meta on you so thats why I kinda wanted to see where you went with it,

0 desire to lynch you today.

If theres anything else ask again directly please

I did twice, it was more trying to get clarification on the wording you used and why you didn't pounce on Iron for saying something nearly identical.

i answered the cop out part in my response too

So would you say Iron has trouble reading you?

Cus I'm still trying to learn the forums

Fleeing Coward · July 14, 2017

Bop, Cory, Cuth town

Eldrick, Fred scum

That's where I'm at atm.

Regarding my posts in that bug period. Most of them was me changing the format or just outright removing parts of them to see if that would fix things. The others were just made at a different time since I wanted to see if it was just a timing issue so of course the wording would alsi be slightly different.

I believe that cory genuinely believes his read which is why I'm still town reading him but his reasoning is bad. Those set of posts are plain and simply NAI.

Sooh · July 14, 2017

Re: The scoobs/Newyn/fleeing coward thing: I knew it was Scoobs from the start, so *shrug*. I also know Newyn to be a Scoobs alias.

Zander? · July 14, 2017

Honestly, now it's really not looking good for Zander in my eyes.

He seems to only be focusing on posts about him and specifically those questioning his alignment.

I know my first game I was super paranoid and only really focused on posts about me and was really worried about my look in others eyes but quickly realized that if I'm not guilty for what I'm being charged for there is no point in lingering on it. Not everyone is going to like your content.

Everyone is saying it's normal for Zander to OMGus (right spelling?), but it just looks so bad to me.

Free passes for not trying to game solve getting hung up on speculation, hyper focusing, voting those who appose him, responding to things against/about him.

He was telling me that I didn't have any original thought and was just going along with what others were saying. Why is everyone just going along with his "meta" that seems so easy to follow and replicate?

His check list seems to be: Tunnel on something. Don't move targets. Vote when someone calls you out.

I just don't see him actually solving and it's really starting to worry the heck out of me.

Shade attempt noted.

Ive given reads with reasoning, im answering everything Ive seen addressed to me exceot for Fred I guess but I will.

OMGUS is par for the course

Im not even tunneling on you anymore so theres that?

Paranoia is my middle name.

Anything else youd like to be wrong about irt me or is this good?

Idk about that, you say youre giving reads with reasoning but if the reasoning is questionable then theres not much incentive to view that as valid reasoning.

Just becasue people dont agree with my reasoning dont make it Scummy does it?

Like if i say gut well thats questionable right???

And most times I fond reasons others dont, just like Killa last game.

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

Yep...that did it. I broke stuff.

Zander, what is your take on Iron/Marsh's ability to read you?

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

Bop, Cory, Cuth town

Eldrick, Fred scum

That's where I'm at atm.

Regarding my posts in that bug period. Most of them was me changing the format or just outright removing parts of them to see if that would fix things. The others were just made at a different time since I wanted to see if it was just a timing issue so of course the wording would alsi be slightly different.

I believe that cory genuinely believes his read which is why I'm still town reading him but his reasoning is bad. Those set of posts are plain and simply NAI.

Cool, ily2

Ironeyes · July 14, 2017

Up to page 15, starting to see the discussion about subbing. Thought I'd post my impressions before diving down the rabbit hole

Def liking Spades content-wise so far, although she has an unfortunate tendency to misinterpret my posts. It's ok, we'll get used to each other. Bop I like somewhat less, but that hydra is overall feeling town to me.

Derf gonna derf. Why that guy consistently feels the need to drop a cryptic, discussion inducing comment and the peace out is beyond me.

I hope and pray that Cordyx is (are? grammar is hard) town. Not only are they good players, but if they're town I can confidently sheep Clov's read on Edrick. I'm not very good at reading him myself, as history shows.

Mrs. Clov, thank you for being a wonderful, active, engaged, mod-confirmed town. Def not brown nosing lol

Cory quoted this post. I haven't read the context of it, but I would like to point out that this reads almost like TMI.

Parphrase: I've read up to THE discussion about subs, but that's going to be a long and complicated one to read which I know for ??? reasons, so I'll just post what I'm thinking before that.

Am I reading too much into it?

Ironeyes, perhaps you can explain why you would call something you haven't read yet a rabbit hole?

Easy. I'd just been informed by, I think it was Spades, that the discussion in question formed most of the thread up to that point, and that it involved Zander. Both of those details were what led me to call it a rabbit hole

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