Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

Zander? · July 14, 2017

Linz doesnt count as a read Zander

Linz doesnt count as a read Zander

Well, that's just rude. :( </3

Cordyx Town

Eldrick Scum

Darthe · July 14, 2017

Honestly, now it's really not looking good for Zander in my eyes.

He seems to only be focusing on posts about him and specifically those questioning his alignment.

I know my first game I was super paranoid and only really focused on posts about me and was really worried about my look in others eyes but quickly realized that if I'm not guilty for what I'm being charged for there is no point in lingering on it. Not everyone is going to like your content.

Everyone is saying it's normal for Zander to OMGus (right spelling?), but it just looks so bad to me.

Free passes for not trying to game solve getting hung up on speculation, hyper focusing, voting those who appose him, responding to things against/about him.

He was telling me that I didn't have any original thought and was just going along with what others were saying. Why is everyone just going along with his "meta" that seems so easy to follow and replicate?

His check list seems to be: Tunnel on something. Don't move targets. Vote when someone calls you out.

I just don't see him actually solving and it's really starting to worry the heck out of me.

Shade attempt noted.

Ive given reads with reasoning, im answering everything Ive seen addressed to me exceot for Fred I guess but I will.

OMGUS is par for the course

Im not even tunneling on you anymore so theres that?

Paranoia is my middle name.

Anything else youd like to be wrong about irt me or is this good?

Idk about that, you say youre giving reads with reasoning but if the reasoning is questionable then theres not much incentive to view that as valid reasoning.

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

Hey fred, how should go about I reading you?

With a Nice Red and brie?

From a Town perspective?

I'm not sure, are you asking me to self meta?

MrsClov · July 14, 2017

YOUR HOURLY VOTE COUNT:

Eldrick(2): Scruffington, Zander
Scruffington(3):Marsh
Marsh(1): Cuth
Fleeing Coward(1): CorDyx
Zander(3): MrsClovLinz, Eldrick, Darthe

A deadline is now set for Friday, July 14th at 11:30pm EST. With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

(votes were reset on replaced people)

Also until Hally gets around to update the player list ...

Aquilla has been replaced by Fleeing Coward
Ted Bundy has been replaced by Fredwood

(do not discuss subs)

Darthe · July 14, 2017

Just asking you a question man. Up to you how you go about responding.

Darthe · July 14, 2017

Did the scruff train died?

Sooh · July 14, 2017

I also always take people focusing me a little personally. I'm trying really hard to not do that, but I can't help it. I don't think I've been able to really read Zander because I'm confused by him and most of his points have made very little sense to me. I've felt maybe it's my bias for being hounded.

You & Sooh should have a chat lol. Sooh has been on the receiving end of a Zander tunnel probably more times than anyone, maybe she can start up a support group.

Vouch! lol

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

Just asking you a question man. Up to you how you go about responding.

I responded in 3 ways, which did you like more?

MrsClov · July 14, 2017

YOUR HOURLY VOTE COUNT:

Eldrick(2): Scruffington, Zander

Scruffington(1):Marsh

Marsh(1): Cuth

Fleeing Coward(1): CorDyx

Zander(3): MrsClovLinz, Eldrick, Darthe

A deadline is now set for Friday, July 14th at 11:30pm EST. With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

(votes were reset on replaced people)

Also until Hally gets around to update the player list ...

Aquilla has been replaced by Fleeing Coward

Ted Bundy has been replaced by Fredwood

(do not discuss subs)

ftfm

Zander? · July 14, 2017

Well, I'm back from my Zander ISO. Holy what did I just read, batman?

Here's what I've come away with. Zander originally sussed SpadesBop because of Spades interaction with Sooh. He said it felt awkward, and later went to say he thought they could be w/w together. When I read through the interactions between Zander/Bop it felt like Zander wasn't the one who subbed in for Penny. Like his questions were about Penny's meta and read like he was trying to figure out that slot (which is his own, mind you) not Bop's or anyone else's. The questions he asked were as follows:

How many games have you played with Penny?

Has she ever subbed as Scum before? As Town? Is one more prevalent?

You don't think its possible she outted before role pm's were out or she couldn't have outted as Town?

Do you know she doesn't like playing as Scum at all?

So you generally assume anyone subbing out is Scummy?

Does Penneh sub out as Town?

The entire ISO I never got the feeling he was trying to figure anyone out. He never gave reasons for his reads, and infact I'm really bothered by him having Cordyx as town. I have them as probably town (for now), but I also have reasons associated. To me, Zander reads to me like he came in to the game and was going to town read Cordyx. In fact here's one post that really bothered me related to this.

Pretend for a sec you knew for certain Cordyx, me and ofc no pretending but Linz are all Town.

He's had Eldrick as a high town read all phase, so why all of the sudden is he voting him? Especially when at one point in time he said that 1 of Darth, Sooh, or SpadesBop was scum and called Ironeyes wolfy 3 times? Zander asked several times what other people thought of HIM, but very little of asking about other people or trying to figure out their slots.

All in all I'm not convinced that Zander is trying to solve the game.

[unvote]

[v]Zander[/v]

This is spicy.

Didnt you just call me a Vilager or am I missing something?!?!?!

Sooh · July 14, 2017

I also always take people focusing me a little personally. I'm trying really hard to not do that, but I can't help it. I don't think I've been able to really read Zander because I'm confused by him and most of his points have made very little sense to me. I've felt maybe it's my bias for being hounded.

You & Sooh should have a chat lol. Sooh has been on the receiving end of a Zander tunnel probably more times than anyone, maybe she can start up a support group.

Doh hasn't played as many games as I've been zander tunneled, much less Des tunneled

Is this another lovely nickname for me? lol

Cory Caboose · July 14, 2017

Bop voted Fleeing Coward IIRC Linz

Darthe · July 14, 2017

That doesnt quite feel fair. It did die, but nothing really replaced it because there wasnt a good reason for it to be replaced. This is a function of scruff being quiet and not of someone else warranting significant votes, which is a problem cause that train did have validity.

Sooh · July 14, 2017

Well, I'm back from my Zander ISO. Holy what did I just read, batman?

Here's what I've come away with. Zander originally sussed SpadesBop because of Spades interaction with Sooh. He said it felt awkward, and later went to say he thought they could be w/w together. When I read through the interactions between Zander/Bop it felt like Zander wasn't the one who subbed in for Penny. Like his questions were about Penny's meta and read like he was trying to figure out that slot (which is his own, mind you) not Bop's or anyone else's. The questions he asked were as follows:

How many games have you played with Penny?

Has she ever subbed as Scum before? As Town? Is one more prevalent?

You don't think its possible she outted before role pm's were out or she couldn't have outted as Town?

Do you know she doesn't like playing as Scum at all?

So you generally assume anyone subbing out is Scummy?

Does Penneh sub out as Town?

The entire ISO I never got the feeling he was trying to figure anyone out. He never gave reasons for his reads, and infact I'm really bothered by him having Cordyx as town. I have them as probably town (for now), but I also have reasons associated. To me, Zander reads to me like he came in to the game and was going to town read Cordyx. In fact here's one post that really bothered me related to this.

Pretend for a sec you knew for certain Cordyx, me and ofc no pretending but Linz are all Town.

He's had Eldrick as a high town read all phase, so why all of the sudden is he voting him? Especially when at one point in time he said that 1 of Darth, Sooh, or SpadesBop was scum and called Ironeyes wolfy 3 times? Zander asked several times what other people thought of HIM, but very little of asking about other people or trying to figure out their slots.

All in all I'm not convinced that Zander is trying to solve the game.

[unvote]

[v]Zander[/v]

This is spicy.

Didnt you just call me a Vilager or am I missing something?!?!?!

Spicy doesn't necessarily mean I agree with it, boo.

Fredwood · July 14, 2017

Vote: Scruffy

Cory Caboose · July 14, 2017

[/unvote]

[v]coward[/v]

Spadeszee · July 14, 2017

Honestly, now it's really not looking good for Zander in my eyes.

He seems to only be focusing on posts about him and specifically those questioning his alignment.

I know my first game I was super paranoid and only really focused on posts about me and was really worried about my look in others eyes but quickly realized that if I'm not guilty for what I'm being charged for there is no point in lingering on it. Not everyone is going to like your content.

Everyone is saying it's normal for Zander to OMGus (right spelling?), but it just looks so bad to me.

Free passes for not trying to game solve getting hung up on speculation, hyper focusing, voting those who appose him, responding to things against/about him.

He was telling me that I didn't have any original thought and was just going along with what others were saying. Why is everyone just going along with his "meta" that seems so easy to follow and replicate?

His check list seems to be: Tunnel on something. Don't move targets. Vote when someone calls you out.

I just don't see him actually solving and it's really starting to worry the heck out of me.

Shade attempt noted.

Ive given reads with reasoning, im answering everything Ive seen addressed to me exceot for Fred I guess but I will.

OMGUS is par for the course

Im not even tunneling on you anymore so theres that?

Paranoia is my middle name.

Anything else youd like to be wrong about irt me or is this good?

xD Tables have turned?

MrsClov · July 14, 2017

Bop voted Fleeing Coward IIRC Linz

Thanks.

Darthe · July 14, 2017

Just asking you a question man. Up to you how you go about responding.

I responded in 3 ways, which did you like more?

You had me at brie

Darthe · July 14, 2017

I also always take people focusing me a little personally. I'm trying really hard to not do that, but I can't help it. I don't think I've been able to really read Zander because I'm confused by him and most of his points have made very little sense to me. I've felt maybe it's my bias for being hounded.
You & Sooh should have a chat lol. Sooh has been on the receiving end of a Zander tunnel probably more times than anyone, maybe she can start up a support group.

Doh hasn't played as many games as I've been zander tunneled, much less Des tunneled

Is this another lovely nickname for me? lol

Better than me calling you cass all game!

MrsClov · July 14, 2017

YOUR HOURLY VOTE COUNT:

Eldrick(2): Scruffington, Zander
Scruffington(2): Marsh, Fredwood
Marsh(1): Cuth
Fleeing Coward(2): CorDyx, MmmSpades
Zander(3): MrsClovLinz, Eldrick, Darthe

A deadline is now set for Friday, July 14th at 11:30pm EST. With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

(votes were reset on replaced people)

Also until Hally gets around to update the player list ...

Aquilla has been replaced by Fleeing Coward
Ted Bundy has been replaced by Fredwood

(do not discuss subs)

Cory Caboose · July 14, 2017

That doesnt quite feel fair. It did die, but nothing really replaced it because there wasnt a good reason for it to be replaced. This is a function of scruff being quiet and not of someone else warranting significant votes, which is a problem cause that train did have validity.

If it comes down to him/Coward, I go Coward

If it comes to him/Zander or him/Eldrick, I'd vote Scruffy happily

Zander? · July 14, 2017

TFW Zander ignores you and your question directed at him

what did

i miss?

Literally all of my content up til this point and my specific question addressed to you about your push on Eldrick

Ive explained my Eld read.

I read your analysis on SBop and me. I liked it and agreed with it, i also noted your reads list and I wanted to see how and where you went with it.

But since you wnt to know 2 things immediately popped into my head after seeing those 2 things: GOAT!Villager or TMI.

Ive got no Meta on you so thats why I kinda wanted to see where you went with it,

0 desire to lynch you today.

If theres anything else ask again directly please

Cory Caboose · July 14, 2017

I mean, I'm not so optimistic as to say I think it's very likely they're both wolves (as much as that's probably not how I should really think of a player's lone equity)

I would be pretty goddamn shocked if one of them wasn't.

Cory Caboose · July 14, 2017

I mean, I'm not so optimistic as to say I think it's very likely they're both wolves (as much as that's probably not how I should really think of a player's lone equity)

I would be pretty goddamn shocked if one of them wasn't.

Re scruffington/coward

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