[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

[Shad_]

@Cass maybe I have a different perspective from knowing her alignment from the start of that game but I'm really not feeling a different tone.  Content, sure.  That was her first Mafia game.  Consistent tone doesn't make someone a villager, but it's a good look.  You're town and BFG is very probably town and sorry not sorry on that.  If you think I'm clearing everyone else above null on that list then I don't know what to tell you.

[Cuth]

cass, i think darthe realized he's not the only one playing the game 

[Shad_]

Cass

 

let the paranoia seethe within you

[Shanti]

My d1 reads up to post #484

 

Shad- 5 pages of content, started out a big rocky for me on page 1, we had a misunderstanding but it seemed to be cleared up alright enough by page 2.

Sorry if you've answered this, but what brought you to this sudden conclusion? You had one small interaction with BFG (from what I could tell in your ISO with lacking some quotes) and then suddenly, BFG is town.

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

 Posted by Shad_ on Today, 12:55 AM in DM Mafia Games

At any rate BFG is town, so there's that.

 

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Even BFG agrees it isn't your norm.

 

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

 Posted by Shad_ on Today, 01:01 AM in DM Mafia Games

BFG, on 06 Jun 2017 - 7:57 PM, said:

 

Shad_, on 06 Jun 2017 - 7:55 PM, said:

At any rate BFG is town, so there's that.

You're normally far more hesitant to read me 

 

 

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With that being said, you do seem to be poking and prodding which reads well for you. I'm going with null for now.

 

 

 

Darthe- Only game I've played with him he was scum, and he was absent for most of the game leading up to his lynch. But iirc his posting leading up to all of that was similar (may be wrong and need to go back and check). AARN leaning scum just because I don't have enough to go on. Barely fills one page with posts thus far. Not liking content of posts either.

 

Shanti- town

 

Tigraine- I'm actually liking content so far. Remembering your last two games, you were hot and heavy on defenses and reads, like you were trying too hard to seem town...this time your reads and reasoning seem natural and innocent. Would like to see more from you but for now, and I can't believe I'm going to say this, I think you are town.

 

LedZepMan- Not really sitting right with me. Content seems...off. He lacks substance, and not only asked if hydra had their own chat (after he was previously in a game where it was mentioned, I was in said game) but then he also talked about no night talk being new to him, there was no night talk in that game either. I really need more but right now he is seeming extremely scummy to me.

 

DreadPirateRoberts- Not enough to really get a read, but GTH, I'd lean scum. BUT as it isn't really GTH, I'll go with null until I get more.

 

Adella- One of the first to give slight reads....for now seems pretty... Adellaish to me. Leaning town, need to see more.

 

CuthaNyn- Really kind of hitting a wrong button for me. Cuth could almost lean town for me, but seems extremely noncommittal, however put both iso together and read as one, comes off very scummy to me. *Shrug* I need to see more substance but I want to lean null right now. Only reason for that is Cuth's questioning peoples' reads and thoughts.

 

Alfred Jodocus- Not really ringing any alarms yet. But I need more content. So far just seems newb...maybe on purpose? null

 

Killanos- Coming off townie to me so far. Asking questions, elaborating, poking. Its a good look. Even if Kronos and the gut feeling towards me is wrong. I also disagree about being defensive in the quotes he made towards me. I was simply answering questions, but oh well. I'll say town for now. 

 

BFG- Your ISO made me raise a brow. You are asking alot of what others think of others, but you aren't really providing any reads, thoughts, or the like about players. You're basically just getting others' thoughts and not providing your own. Not a good look imo. I would like a read from you. Slight scum lean atm.

 

Cass- I actually read Cass as scum in my head quite a bit last game. I went back and forth alot. Actions and tone seem the same this game, so maybe that means town? Not sure. Cass confuses me and I have a hard time reading, so I will say null. But if it came down to it I AM leaning more town than anything.

 

dicetosser1- A couple of rapid beginning votes there, but nothing I really raised a brow at. However, content isn't really saying much. I need more, if I had to, I'd honestly lean scum. Will leave it at null for now.

[Shad_]

To all ye WoTers

 

 

Seriously tho Shad doesn't read good this time of day.  Y'all are killing me.

[Tigraine]

To all ye WoTers

 

 

Seriously tho Shad doesn't read good this time of day. Y'all are killing me.

Yeah that image failed on my screen

[Shad_]

Someone asked for this - general tone of these posts - they just sound defensive when there is no need for defensiveness

I don't generally derive "defensive" from playfulness and smiley faces. I could see thinking it's an attempt to butter people up maybe? but not defensive.

[Cuth]

CuthaNyn- Really kind of hitting a wrong button for me. Cuth could almost lean town for me, but seems extremely noncommittal, however put both iso together and read as one, comes off very scummy to me. *Shrug* I need to see more substance but I want to lean null right now. Only reason for that is Cuth's questioning peoples' reads and thoughts.

 

that was like

 

reading

 

a rollercoaster

[Tigraine]

 

Someone asked for this - general tone of these posts - they just sound defensive when there is no need for defensiveness

I don't generally derive "defensive" from playfulness and smiley faces. I could see thinking it's an attempt to butter people up maybe? but not defensive.

I didn't see anything wrong with it tbh. I had meant to comment on it but then forgot.

 

On a side note, I really need a computer. Doing this on mobile is a big flaming pile of horse dung.

[Killashandra]

Lol tig. I mostly play on mobile and I have a laptop... I am super lazy though when it comes to actually sitting down and using it. Also I hide in the bathroom or outside from my kids.

[Shanti]

 

CuthaNyn- Really kind of hitting a wrong button for me. Cuth could almost lean town for me, but seems extremely noncommittal, however put both iso together and read as one, comes off very scummy to me. *Shrug* I need to see more substance but I want to lean null right now. Only reason for that is Cuth's questioning peoples' reads and thoughts.

 

that was like

 

reading

 

a rollercoaster

 

 

You hybrid content is like reading a rollercoaster

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

Alfred (2): Shad, Adella

Killanos (1): Darthe

Shad (1): Dice

Darthe (2):Cass, Killanos

 

Not voting (7):  Shanti, Tigraine, DreadPirateRoberts, CuthaNyn, Alfred Jodocus, BFG, LZM

 

[Killashandra]

Haha Shanti. Did you see my early joke about them? Good cop, bad cop hydra.

[Cuth]

 

 

CuthaNyn- Really kind of hitting a wrong button for me. Cuth could almost lean town for me, but seems extremely noncommittal, however put both iso together and read as one, comes off very scummy to me. *Shrug* I need to see more substance but I want to lean null right now. Only reason for that is Cuth's questioning peoples' reads and thoughts.

 

that was like

 

reading

 

a rollercoaster

 

 

You hybrid content is like reading a rollercoaster

 

i apologize for my better half :P

[Cuth]

[v]zep[/v]

[Adella]

 

 

@adella- I'm truly just curious but how is it that you and I look at the Dice/Alf thing so differently? What was it about Alf's responses that you dont like?

 

What is it about Dice's browbeating that you do like?

In the 2 broke girls game that was exactly how Dice played. He is agressive and browbeats and it was hard for me to accept in that game, but he is also a good player. He is the one who figured out I was scum in that game and I felt like I had played a clean game. He is a good player, just has a more agressive playstyle, not unlike Tigs and myself.

 

As far as Alf, like I said I did not like his hedging around the questions. He repeatedly said that Dice never asked a question, and that is technically true but it's still to just keep saying that instead of answering and being open. Townies are generally open with discussion, and it is scummy to me that he kept hedging. Like I said, that's just the best I have to go on so far.

That's not how I remember that at all

 

Alf hasn't responded to any vote on him till prodded by Dice at which point he asked why he should be concerned with a vote based on nothing. That is an answer? What am I missing?

Maybe I'm remembering it off, there is a chance, I have slept since then, but I can't go back and iso right now, and deadline is basically here. Again, it's literally just the best thing I have right now. I am not trying to talk anyone into agreeing with me, just giving my pov as I see it.

[Shad_]

OTTERS!!

 

*Tackles Cuth*

 

Thoughts on Tig at this stage - not enough actual game-related thoughts from her ITT; the *stares suspiciously* at Shanti is possibly off-kilter given that she said Shanti + Pep isn't sus to her specifically, circles about her only relating the comment to Peg + Cat after I mentioned it. Don't hate her questioning me, but it initially bothered me that the quote she uses doesn't have the whole story/all her responses. 

 

Re-reading, could just be a cross in our wires since in my mind the focus was on me asking her if she found extra pep a bad thing wrt Shanti since she called it out, and the way she quotes it she's reading it as me correcting her that Shanti was peppy.

 

TLDR Null/Need moaarrr thoughts.

So why did you say I should have had her higher in my reads list? 

[Cass]

Shad, can you point me to games where Nyn has been less engaged as a hydra? The one that come to my mind haven't displayed much difference from normal activity but I'm mostly thinking of whichever game she was hydra'd with Cory which isn't a fair baseline :p

 

Cass (and Nyn) gain the brownie points. Need to read Nyn's latest content more thoroughly, although superficially it looks ~good, prior to that 100% fluff/shark is a really bad look for Nyn. Suspect it's less the hydra and more RL, so I'm mostly going to be looking for what happens over her weekend <3

 

Possiblepocketattemptdenied.gif

 

Were you actually watching/sus on anyone at that point?

[Shad_]

Those of you who have played with tig as scum help me out here. Was she absent a ton during? Because I am not seeing that as scummy for her yet. She usually picks up more steam as the game gets going. I would like her to touch base before eod though.

 

Her content level has been about equal between alignments in my experience.

[Shanti]

Haha Shanti. Did you see my early joke about them? Good cop, bad cop hydra.

 

yeah I saw that in my iso and mentally agreed. lol

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

Alfred (2): Shad, Adella

Killanos (1): Darthe

Shad (1): Dice

Darthe (2):Cass, Killanos

LZM (1): Cuthanyn

 

Not voting (6):  Shanti, Tigraine, DreadPirateRoberts, Alfred Jodocus, BFG, LZM

 

[Cass]

 

OTTERS!!

 

*Tackles Cuth*

 

Thoughts on Tig at this stage - not enough actual game-related thoughts from her ITT; the *stares suspiciously* at Shanti is possibly off-kilter given that she said Shanti + Pep isn't sus to her specifically, circles about her only relating the comment to Peg + Cat after I mentioned it. Don't hate her questioning me, but it initially bothered me that the quote she uses doesn't have the whole story/all her responses. 

 

Re-reading, could just be a cross in our wires since in my mind the focus was on me asking her if she found extra pep a bad thing wrt Shanti since she called it out, and the way she quotes it she's reading it as me correcting her that Shanti was peppy.

 

TLDR Null/Need moaarrr thoughts.

So why did you say I should have had her higher in my reads list? 

 

 

She posted more between these posts / she moved up for me after her reads post. Thoughts already given there?

 

FTR Shad possi-tinfoiling on a blue read of me because of that is ?

[Shanti]

I went back to Peg + Cat and did ISO on LedZepMan

 

I remember reading him scummy, even when he was peeked, (I didn't trust the seer was the seer, extreme paranoia there, I know...) BUT he had loads more content right off the bat and had much more substance to his posts....

 

sooooo with that being said, his gameplay seems different in this game. 

 

[v] LedZepMan [/v]

[Cass]

Folks, my apology for being absent - I have a grandmother who isn't doing well and my son is having a hard time with it. I'm with family until Friday, upon which I'll catch up and actually play! 

 

*Hides tinfoil, offers beer and thoughts/condolences* 

 

 

 

@adella- I'm truly just curious but how is it that you and I look at the Dice/Alf thing so differently? What was it about Alf's responses that you dont like?

 

What is it about Dice's browbeating that you do like?

In the 2 broke girls game that was exactly how Dice played. He is agressive and browbeats and it was hard for me to accept in that game, but he is also a good player. He is the one who figured out I was scum in that game and I felt like I had played a clean game. He is a good player, just has a more agressive playstyle, not unlike Tigs and myself.

 

As far as Alf, like I said I did not like his hedging around the questions. He repeatedly said that Dice never asked a question, and that is technically true but it's still to just keep saying that instead of answering and being open. Townies are generally open with discussion, and it is scummy to me that he kept hedging. Like I said, that's just the best I have to go on so far.

 

 

I can accept the reasoning on Dice, but I think it's null and as stated I think his push on Alf for only that, and not seeming to consider other content is a bit :/

 

 

 

 

That's not how I remember that at all 

 

Alf hasn't responded to any vote on him till prodded by Dice at which point he asked why he should be concerned with a vote based on nothing. That is an answer? What am I missing? 

 

 

What's your take on Alf and Dice separately?

 

What I see as missing from both of these Alf reads is that he didn't respond to Shad's vote on him, which was based on something. 

Or that he hasn't engaged/returned with opinions when coaxing. And so he can't be cleared.

 

The whole exchange was awkward and neither of them focused on anything else. 

 

TLDR I could see Dice/Alf WW here, Dice/Adella also possible. I don't know if Adella busses that directly/can't remember her doing so with Ed so can't comment on the Adella/Alf side.

[Shad_]

She posted more between these posts / she moved up for me after her reads post. Thoughts already given there?

 

FTR Shad possi-tinfoiling on a blue read of me because of that is ?

Just got to that WoT she posted in catch-up