[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

seph · February 17, 2017

I've never heard of a witness before. How is a witness different from a cop?

I quoted it a few pages back

WolfbrotherKronos · February 17, 2017

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

You don't reveal a power role unless needed. Why do you think I focused on you today? I'd rather show a case and not let scum know of my alignment then wake up day two and say "hey this is what I got"

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

Kronos, what is your read on BFG, Cass, and Seph?

I'm sorry if you've said it before, but I'm not caught up.

BFG I have a null one - spoof didn't play so nothing to read off of. I think BFG is doing a good job, but would like to see thoughts when she is caught up.

Town Read on Cass - I see genuine scum hunting there.

Seph is leaning town, but close to null - scum hunting seems hesitant - it could be confusion on his part

Why is Seph a close to null read for you when he basically was co-responsible for ensuring that NotBob got lynched?

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

I've never heard of a witness before. How is a witness different from a cop?

I quoted it a few pages back

Thanks. I'll look.

Darthe · February 17, 2017

Wotness would be such an odd claim to fake with no pressure, and if we were teammates it'd essentially throw away two of us as soon as the claim was confirmed fake.

So no to that whole dumb line of manipulation.

seph · February 17, 2017

Still a stand off ugh.

I hate doing this.

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.
You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

[unvote]

[V]kronos

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

Eldrick, no. You have to vote for Darthe. Don't move your votes around. That's what they want us to do.

Lol you get to pick one or the other today liz. Eldrick or wbk?

Darthe why did you phrase your question like this? Do you think kronos could be lying?

WolfbrotherKronos · February 17, 2017

Kronos, what is your read on BFG, Cass, and Seph?

I'm sorry if you've said it before, but I'm not caught up.

BFG I have a null one - spoof didn't play so nothing to read off of. I think BFG is doing a good job, but would like to see thoughts when she is caught up.

Town Read on Cass - I see genuine scum hunting there.

Seph is leaning town, but close to null - scum hunting seems hesitant - it could be confusion on his part

Why is Seph a close to null read for you when he basically was co-responsible for ensuring that NotBob got lynched?

It could go either way - he could have been scum jumping on a teammates train or he could have been town. This isn't a black and white game.

Cass · February 17, 2017

Still a stand off ugh.

I hate doing this.

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

Role Description:

The Witness may each night investigate a player and learn that player's alignment. If the targeted player is killed by a faction (such as the mafia), the Witness will instead learn the alignment of a randomly chosen player from that faction. If the target is killed by a Vigilante or a different killing type role acting alone, the Witness will learn the alignment of that player.

mu description

Hold up.

This is not what Eldrick described - I'm running out the door and don't have time to find Eldrick's post, but I quoted it enough - he said that he was in communication with the mod, before daybreak, and he had a choice to make. That doesn't jive at all with the role description above.

I'm not moving my vote - this looks like another way to pull votes off liz/clov - exactly what I was talking about.

Are you saying I'm lying or was redirected?

I'm saying that between your claim, and Eldrick's claim, 2 + 2 = North Dakota. No bueno.

dpr.. kronos just literally said he got a red on eldrick. I would hope you wouldn't move it lol

NB said a lot of things too, didn't he.

GD thread is so choked with shite, nobody can see the forest for the trees.

Ok. Had to wait for mod conformation about if I could even talk about it.

Last night, presumably at the beginning of night phase, I was to make a choice. I can't go into specifics because of mod communication and whatnot, but suffice to say I'm worried about the result of the choice.

Due to the obscure nature of the question, it feels like depending on what I picked, one of us will die. If there's a doc, and they have nothing better to do, I would like protection. I don't trust the outcome of this role, whatever it's doing.

If it's result is a kill, I would like to thwart it. It does not feel like a town ability.

This is Eldrick's claim.

How the hell does this match up to Kronos' "Witness" claim?

I have a meeting in 15 mins, so I'm out until after deadline. Please, somebody with a working brain look at this situation.

My vote stays.

Still a stand off ugh.

I hate doing this.

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.

You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

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[V]kronos [/v]

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

Brain pain.

I read this as 'I have to make a choice but feel like I'm gonna die - save me' rather than 'I'm choosing who to kill and need protection'.

Is that the DPR problem/suggestion?

'I don't trust the outcome of this role/it does not feel like a town ability' suggests he's being targeted rather than targeting, right?

@Eldrick, how does Kronos' claimed role match up with what you're describing?

@Kronos, is your role the same as MU description or different?

Darthe · February 17, 2017

Also if el thinks I'm wbks teammate and he is voting me for that, why isn't he just going straight for wbk? That doesn't make sense from a townie perspective.

seph · February 17, 2017

Wotness would be such an odd claim to fake with no pressure, and if we were teammates it'd essentially throw away two of us as soon as the claim was confirmed fake.

So no to that whole dumb line of manipulation.

Regardless of Darthe alignment tying them together here is silly

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

Role Description:

The Witness may each night investigate a player and learn that player's alignment. If the targeted player is killed by a faction (such as the mafia), the Witness will instead learn the alignment of a randomly chosen player from that faction. If the target is killed by a Vigilante or a different killing type role acting alone, the Witness will learn the alignment of that player.

mu description

Okay. Hmm...

Even if he's telling the truth, I'm still pretty confident that Eldrick isn't teamed with NB. If he is, that was one hell of a bus from NB all day long and Eldrick at the end of the day.

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

And what I'm saying is that if the result was "guilty" that doesn't mean mafia. As in Darthe.

Darthe · February 17, 2017

Still a stand off ugh.

I hate doing this.

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.
You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

[unvote]

[V]kronos

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

Eldrick, no. You have to vote for Darthe. Don't move your votes around. That's what they want us to do.
Lol you get to pick one or the other today liz. Eldrick or wbk?
Darthe why did you phrase your question like this? Do you think kronos could be lying?

It matters which way liz goes, and ifs absurd to go out of the claimee or the accused.

Im so in the wbk camp, el was a wolf read of mine anyhow and the claims on point in a ton of ways that shout "im valid".

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

Wotness would be such an odd claim to fake with no pressure, and if we were teammates it'd essentially throw away two of us as soon as the claim was confirmed fake.

So no to that whole dumb line of manipulation.

I actually agree with you on this one. First time for everything :D

Darthe · February 17, 2017

Role Description:

The Witness may each night investigate a player and learn that player's alignment. If the targeted player is killed by a faction (such as the mafia), the Witness will instead learn the alignment of a randomly chosen player from that faction. If the target is killed by a Vigilante or a different killing type role acting alone, the Witness will learn the alignment of that player.

mu description

Okay. Hmm...

Even if he's telling the truth, I'm still pretty confident that Eldrick isn't teamed with NB. If he is, that was one hell of a bus from NB all day long and Eldrick at the end of the day.

Yeah hed have to do something like self vote at a crucial time to sell it...

Called that two days ago too.

Kaylee · February 17, 2017

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Miss Kizzy Clov (4) - DPR, WiFi, Crusher, Dice

Tiink (1) - Cuth

Darthe (2) - Miss Kitty Clov, Eldrick

Eldrick (4) - Kronos, Darthe, Tiink, Seph

Not Voting: Cass, Hallia, BFG

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to string 'em up!

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, 2/17/17 at 9AM MST

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

Still a stand off ugh.

I hate doing this.

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.
You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

[unvote]

[V]kronos

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

Eldrick, no. You have to vote for Darthe. Don't move your votes around. That's what they want us to do.
Lol you get to pick one or the other today liz. Eldrick or wbk?
Darthe why did you phrase your question like this? Do you think kronos could be lying?

It matters which way liz goes, and ifs absurd to go out of the claimee or the accused.

Im so in the wbk camp, el was a wolf read of mine anyhow and the claims on point in a ton of ways that shout "im valid".

Darthe, you're scum. I'm voting you. That doesn't change.

I told you, even if I flip it just justifies what we've been saying and it serves town in the long-run.

WolfbrotherKronos · February 17, 2017

And what I'm saying is that if the result was "guilty" that doesn't mean mafia. As in Darthe.

Truth - but guilty does mean threat to town imo.

To answer the question about the MU description - it's in line with what my role is - I'm only that role on odd nights though.

Darthe · February 17, 2017

Wotness would be such an odd claim to fake with no pressure, and if we were teammates it'd essentially throw away two of us as soon as the claim was confirmed fake.

So no to that whole dumb line of manipulation.

I actually agree with you on this one. First time for everything :D

If you were better youd agree more, but youll get there.

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

Role Description:

The Witness may each night investigate a player and learn that player's alignment. If the targeted player is killed by a faction (such as the mafia), the Witness will instead learn the alignment of a randomly chosen player from that faction. If the target is killed by a Vigilante or a different killing type role acting alone, the Witness will learn the alignment of that player.

mu description

Okay. Hmm...

Even if he's telling the truth, I'm still pretty confident that Eldrick isn't teamed with NB. If he is, that was one hell of a bus from NB all day long and Eldrick at the end of the day.

Yeah hed have to do something like self vote at a crucial time to sell it...

Called that two days ago too.

What are you talking about?

Eldrick4221 · February 17, 2017

Yeah. Not buying it. Even if you had somehow gotten a red read on me, though I can't fathom how you would, you don't keep it to yourself, after d1 was a scum lynch.

You would be extatic to get 2/2 and open with it. My guess is you're trying to do this to save your teammate.

Guess that teammate is darthe.

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[V]darthe [/v]

You don't reveal a power role unless needed. Why do you think I focused on you today? I'd rather show a case and not let scum know of my alignment then wake up day two and say "hey this is what I got"

You do when you get a guilty. Which you claimed to do.

And you didn't build a case. You barely pushed me. You asked about my read change on darthe.

Besides that all you did was say vote me a few times.

Yes. You're right. You started by voting me. That doesn't mean much.

Darthe · February 17, 2017

Still a stand off ugh.

I hate doing this.

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.
You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

[unvote]

[V]kronos

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

Eldrick, no. You have to vote for Darthe. Don't move your votes around. That's what they want us to do.
Lol you get to pick one or the other today liz. Eldrick or wbk?
Darthe why did you phrase your question like this? Do you think kronos could be lying?
It matters which way liz goes, and ifs absurd to go out of the claimee or the accused.

Im so in the wbk camp, el was a wolf read of mine anyhow and the claims on point in a ton of ways that shout "im valid".

Darthe, you're scum. I'm voting you. That doesn't change.

I told you, even if I flip it just justifies what we've been saying and it serves town in the long-run.

Yah I don't care. Going luck with that whole voting me thing, seems good.

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

And what I'm saying is that if the result was "guilty" that doesn't mean mafia. As in Darthe.

Truth - but guilty does mean threat to town imo.

To answer the question about the MU description - it's in line with what my role is - I'm only that role on odd nights though.

Yes, to the first part...

The second part, you said you had a guilty not a mafia result on him. Which one was it?

seph · February 17, 2017

Ugh... but tink is on this wagon#feelsbadman

Lizabeth · February 17, 2017

Still a stand off ugh.

I hate doing this.

I happen to know that Eldrick was visited last night because I did it.

I'm a town odd night witness and I viewed Eldrick last night. The response came back as guilty.

That is weak. You're lying about your supposed result.
You wouldn't say you hate doing it if you had caught scum, which you obviously haven't.

[unvote]

[V]kronos

I believe that you targeted me. I know someone did if it wasn't some weird trigger thing.

Eldrick, no. You have to vote for Darthe. Don't move your votes around. That's what they want us to do.
Lol you get to pick one or the other today liz. Eldrick or wbk?
Darthe why did you phrase your question like this? Do you think kronos could be lying?
It matters which way liz goes, and ifs absurd to go out of the claimee or the accused.

Im so in the wbk camp, el was a wolf read of mine anyhow and the claims on point in a ton of ways that shout "im valid".

Darthe, you're scum. I'm voting you. That doesn't change.

I told you, even if I flip it just justifies what we've been saying and it serves town in the long-run.

Yah I don't care. Going luck with that whole voting me thing, seems good.

Okay :)

[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

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