[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[MrsClov]

 

 

 

Western Mafia spread sheet Google Sheets.png  Dang it. I was trying to actually post the image and hit the wrong button. Sorry, here it is. Click on it and the image will pop up. Everyone can see what post someone unvoted or voted. 

 

 

I'm beginning to understand why you look so angry in your picture. 

 

You spent time on that, didn't you.

 

I'm not even remotely angry in that picture. 

 

Yes, I did spend a great deal of time on it. Thank you for noticing. 

 

 

 

Maybe try a little smile next time? Look at my picture - big 'ol positive smile. It says "Hi! I'm here and ready to party!"

 

Okay, back to your graph. Time has been spent. What does it do?

 

 

Alright, so the names in Column 1 is who casted the vote, horizontal names across the top are who they voted for. # is the post number they voted for and U# or #U is when they unvoted. Sooh is in green because she flipped town, NotBob is in red since he flipped scum. There was a very large post with this graph originally that explained this and our reads.

[MrsClov]

oh and mrsclov.....you don't have my vote on dricky/eldrick it was on there at eod

Thanks! I was worried I'd miss one or two. I'll correct that.

[Wildfire Sedai]

 Hope some more people join the thread and actually contribute to a real analysis. ~ lizabeth

 

what am I chopped liver???

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

Western Mafia spread sheet Google Sheets.png  Dang it. I was trying to actually post the image and hit the wrong button. Sorry, here it is. Click on it and the image will pop up. Everyone can see what post someone unvoted or voted. 

 

 

I'm beginning to understand why you look so angry in your picture. 

 

You spent time on that, didn't you.

 

I'm not even remotely angry in that picture. 

 

Yes, I did spend a great deal of time on it. Thank you for noticing. 

 

 

 

Maybe try a little smile next time? Look at my picture - big 'ol positive smile. It says "Hi! I'm here and ready to party!"

 

Okay, back to your graph. Time has been spent. What does it do?

 

 

Alright, so the names in Column 1 is who casted the vote, horizontal names across the top are who they voted for. # is the post number they voted for and U# or #U is when they unvoted. Sooh is in green because she flipped town, NotBob is in red since he flipped scum. There was a very large post with this graph originally that explained this and our reads.

 

 

 

I'm with you. What does it tell us?

[Lizabeth]

 

 

But what do you think of the fact that cuth and seph were basically responsible for NB getting lynched? If in your scenario Darthe is town, why not flip the lynch onto him isntead of a teammate who was basically flying under the radar up until then?

 

And you've been at perc? What's your username there?

 

 

1.  I think that was already mentioned: He was low on the totem pole and they were looking for deep wolf equity.  Darthe likes to bus don't know about the rest of you.

 

2. no I haven't been at perc....don't even know what perc is??

 

1. No, you're missing the point wifi.

 

I know you said you don't understanding wagonomics, but this is what I'm saying.

 

Cuth was probably the first person to get all riled up about the infamous post 309. He's the one who started saying there is no way that post could come from town. Actually, when you look at the vote count, he put his vote on us at #300, before that post was even made.

 

Eldrick was on us even earlier. First at 93 and then again at 424.

 

Seph was on us from 277. Again, long before the infamous post 309.

 

So what you're saying is that our 3 team mates built a wagon on us over nothing. But if we're so important to the team, why would they do that.

 

But add in this fact. Cuth unovtes us at 436. Seph and Eldrick followed after that. But then crusher tinker and notbob rebuild the wagon.

 

Now, notbob did not focus on pretty much anyone else but us (and to a lesser extent eldrick) all day long. He had no other real suspects at all, unless you count his first vote on Darthe, which darthe said he would do before he did it.

 

What kind of dumbass scum team focuses only on it's team mates for a whole damn game? That would be ridiculous.

 

There is one mafia team member who's identity we know for sure. That's NotBob.

 

We know that instead of seekign other candidates (dice woudl have been a good one, darthe would have been even better) our scum team decided to bus each other for an entire day adn then build a wagon on another member at the end of the day with no effort to find other targets?

 

That's dumb.

 

But now look at what happened with Darthe.

 

Darthe does not sus NB at all for a whole day. All day he's claiming that mrsclov/me are scum and his backup is eldrick.

 

But what does he do when he sees a build up on NB?

 

Does he say, lolguys go ahead. Doesn't matter who gets lynched because i thin they're all town, but I'm most sure of lizzy/clov who I've insisted all day will flip scum?

 

No. He does not. First he preps and says "oh, i might vote over there"

 

Then he says "okay, i'll vote over there"

 

Then after nb flips scum he says "but lizzyclov is still scum. let's lynch them!"

 

But then when I ask him what made him jump off our lynch in the first place, he says that he started to think we should have a chance to prove ourselves.

 

Except that's not true. Because immediately after the flip he says that we're scum for sure and need to be lynched.

 

does that make sense?

 

If someone's going to bus a team mate, does it make sense for them to bus one team mate all day and then bus the other one at the end of the day?

 

Or does it make more sense for someone to bus a team mate when that team mate's wagon is building steam at the end of the day so they can appear like they had town's interests at heart?

 

Except that darthe didn't even remember to pretend to have town's interest at heart, because he didn't vote NB to save a town read or even a null read. His statements after the flip said that he was voting a supposedly weaker scum read over his strongest scum read.

 

He can't have it both ways.

[Wildfire Sedai]

maybe not....I had it that the ones across the top were the voting ones and the ones on the left were the voted by ones....I did read that big post just got it wrong cause it was early in day and didn't remember...sorry....

[Lizabeth]

I am doing my best

I know. I'm intense, but I don't mean it to be mean, so I'm sorry if it comes across that way.

[Lizabeth]

 Hope some more people join the thread and actually contribute to a real analysis. ~ lizabeth

 

what am I chopped liver???

lol no - I was just in the moment with DPR

 

Sorry, I wasn't thinking about you :(

[MrsClov]

 

 

 

 

 

Western Mafia spread sheet Google Sheets.png  Dang it. I was trying to actually post the image and hit the wrong button. Sorry, here it is. Click on it and the image will pop up. Everyone can see what post someone unvoted or voted. 

 

 

I'm beginning to understand why you look so angry in your picture. 

 

You spent time on that, didn't you.

 

I'm not even remotely angry in that picture. 

 

Yes, I did spend a great deal of time on it. Thank you for noticing. 

 

 

 

Maybe try a little smile next time? Look at my picture - big 'ol positive smile. It says "Hi! I'm here and ready to party!"

 

Okay, back to your graph. Time has been spent. What does it do?

 

 

Alright, so the names in Column 1 is who casted the vote, horizontal names across the top are who they voted for. # is the post number they voted for and U# or #U is when they unvoted. Sooh is in green because she flipped town, NotBob is in red since he flipped scum. There was a very large post with this graph originally that explained this and our reads.

 

 

 

I'm with you. What does it tell us?

 

I'm a visual person, so for me I can look at it right off of the bat and see that Not Bob voted for Eldrick a few different times. Knowing that NB flipped scum, I find it unlikely that he'd hop around and vote a scummate a couple of times like that. I could be wrong, but I tend to go with the easiest theory, which is that Eldrick is not scum with Not Bob. 

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

Western Mafia spread sheet Google Sheets.png  Dang it. I was trying to actually post the image and hit the wrong button. Sorry, here it is. Click on it and the image will pop up. Everyone can see what post someone unvoted or voted. 

 

 

I'm beginning to understand why you look so angry in your picture. 

 

You spent time on that, didn't you.

 

I'm not even remotely angry in that picture. 

 

Yes, I did spend a great deal of time on it. Thank you for noticing. 

 

 

 

Maybe try a little smile next time? Look at my picture - big 'ol positive smile. It says "Hi! I'm here and ready to party!"

 

Okay, back to your graph. Time has been spent. What does it do?

 

Should she show a little leg too?

 

What era are you from?

 

(dont' even care if that code doesn't work :P)

[Lizabeth]

@Tress, I screwed up - can i edit out the link i posted from linz' spreadsheet?

[Songstress]

@Tress, I screwed up - can i edit out the link i posted from linz' spreadsheet?

Permission granted

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Western Mafia spread sheet Google Sheets.png  Dang it. I was trying to actually post the image and hit the wrong button. Sorry, here it is. Click on it and the image will pop up. Everyone can see what post someone unvoted or voted. 

 

 

I'm beginning to understand why you look so angry in your picture. 

 

You spent time on that, didn't you.

 

I'm not even remotely angry in that picture. 

 

Yes, I did spend a great deal of time on it. Thank you for noticing. 

 

 

 

Maybe try a little smile next time? Look at my picture - big 'ol positive smile. It says "Hi! I'm here and ready to party!"

 

Okay, back to your graph. Time has been spent. What does it do?

 

 

Alright, so the names in Column 1 is who casted the vote, horizontal names across the top are who they voted for. # is the post number they voted for and U# or #U is when they unvoted. Sooh is in green because she flipped town, NotBob is in red since he flipped scum. There was a very large post with this graph originally that explained this and our reads.

 

 

 

I'm with you. What does it tell us?

 

I'm a visual person, so for me I can look at it right off of the bat and see that Not Bob voted for Eldrick a few different times. Knowing that NB flipped scum, I find it unlikely that he'd hop around and vote a scummate a couple of times like that. I could be wrong, but I tend to go with the easiest theory, which is that Eldrick is not scum with Not Bob. 

 

 

 

Alright, just in terms of the chart - and this is a real question - what does it tell us that the vote counts didn't already? Especially on D1, with the joke votes and waiting for folks to get into the game?

[Lizabeth]

 

@Tress, I screwed up - can i edit out the link i posted from linz' spreadsheet?

Permission granted

 

Thanks.

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

Western Mafia spread sheet Google Sheets.png  Dang it. I was trying to actually post the image and hit the wrong button. Sorry, here it is. Click on it and the image will pop up. Everyone can see what post someone unvoted or voted. 

 

 

I'm beginning to understand why you look so angry in your picture. 

 

You spent time on that, didn't you.

 

I'm not even remotely angry in that picture. 

 

Yes, I did spend a great deal of time on it. Thank you for noticing. 

 

 

 

Maybe try a little smile next time? Look at my picture - big 'ol positive smile. It says "Hi! I'm here and ready to party!"

 

Okay, back to your graph. Time has been spent. What does it do?

 

Should she show a little leg too?

 

What era are you from?

 

(dont' even care if that code doesn't work :P)

 

 

There's a big difference between poking fun at a frown in association with a passive/aggressive pay style and trying to drag this into the sexist gutter. 

[MrsClov]

 

 

 

 

Alright, just in terms of the chart - and this is a real question - what does it tell us that the vote counts didn't already? Especially on D1, with the joke votes and waiting for folks to get into the game?

 

@DPR. It's easier to look at. I don't have to go back and look at multiple vote counts frequently to see how people are jumping around. I don't expect anyone really to find it useful. It's just something that helps me when I'm reading the thread and taking notes. Figured I'd share it in case it'd help others as well.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

Western Mafia spread sheet Google Sheets.png  Dang it. I was trying to actually post the image and hit the wrong button. Sorry, here it is. Click on it and the image will pop up. Everyone can see what post someone unvoted or voted. 

 

 

I'm beginning to understand why you look so angry in your picture. 

 

You spent time on that, didn't you.

 

I'm not even remotely angry in that picture. 

 

Yes, I did spend a great deal of time on it. Thank you for noticing. 

 

 

 

Maybe try a little smile next time? Look at my picture - big 'ol positive smile. It says "Hi! I'm here and ready to party!"

 

Okay, back to your graph. Time has been spent. What does it do?

 

Should she show a little leg too?

 

What era are you from?

 

(dont' even care if that code doesn't work :P)

 

 

There's a big difference between poking fun at a frown in association with a passive/aggressive pay style and trying to drag this into the sexist gutter. 

 

What ya said was a little sexist, though. But let's not turn this into a rally :P

[Lizabeth]

But, I guess if you're talking passive-aggressive playstyles.

 

DPR You should smile more! It will make you look prettier

[Lizabeth]

Okay, I'm done :D

 

I'm gonna shutup now so people can actually catch up with the thread...

 

goodnight!

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

 

Alright, just in terms of the chart - and this is a real question - what does it tell us that the vote counts didn't already? Especially on D1, with the joke votes and waiting for folks to get into the game?

 

@DPR. It's easier to look at. I don't have to go back and look at multiple vote counts frequently to see how people are jumping around. I don't expect anyone really to find it useful. It's just something that helps me when I'm reading the thread and taking notes. Figured I'd share it in case it'd help others as well.

 

 

 

Fair enough. 

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

 

 

But what do you think of the fact that cuth and seph were basically responsible for NB getting lynched? If in your scenario Darthe is town, why not flip the lynch onto him isntead of a teammate who was basically flying under the radar up until then?

 

And you've been at perc? What's your username there?

 

 

1.  I think that was already mentioned: He was low on the totem pole and they were looking for deep wolf equity.  Darthe likes to bus don't know about the rest of you.

 

2. no I haven't been at perc....don't even know what perc is??

 

1. No, you're missing the point wifi.

 

I know you said you don't understanding wagonomics, but this is what I'm saying.

 

Cuth was probably the first person to get all riled up about the infamous post 309. He's the one who started saying there is no way that post could come from town. Actually, when you look at the vote count, he put his vote on us at #300, before that post was even made.

 

Eldrick was on us even earlier. First at 93 and then again at 424.

 

Seph was on us from 277. Again, long before the infamous post 309.

 

So what you're saying is that our 3 team mates built a wagon on us over nothing. But if we're so important to the team, why would they do that.

 

But add in this fact. Cuth unovtes us at 436. Seph and Eldrick followed after that. But then crusher tinker and notbob rebuild the wagon.

 

Now, notbob did not focus on pretty much anyone else but us (and to a lesser extent eldrick) all day long. He had no other real suspects at all, unless you count his first vote on Darthe, which darthe said he would do before he did it.

 

What kind of dumbass scum team focuses only on it's team mates for a whole damn game? That would be ridiculous.

 

There is one mafia team member who's identity we know for sure. That's NotBob.

 

We know that instead of seekign other candidates (dice woudl have been a good one, darthe would have been even better) our scum team decided to bus each other for an entire day adn then build a wagon on another member at the end of the day with no effort to find other targets?

 

That's dumb.

 

But now look at what happened with Darthe.

 

Darthe does not sus NB at all for a whole day. All day he's claiming that mrsclov/me are scum and his backup is eldrick.

 

But what does he do when he sees a build up on NB?

 

Does he say, lolguys go ahead. Doesn't matter who gets lynched because i thin they're all town, but I'm most sure of lizzy/clov who I've insisted all day will flip scum?

 

No. He does not. First he preps and says "oh, i might vote over there"

 

Then he says "okay, i'll vote over there"

 

Then after nb flips scum he says "but lizzyclov is still scum. let's lynch them!"

 

But then when I ask him what made him jump off our lynch in the first place, he says that he started to think we should have a chance to prove ourselves.

 

Except that's not true. Because immediately after the flip he says that we're scum for sure and need to be lynched.

 

does that make sense?

 

If someone's going to bus a team mate, does it make sense for them to bus one team mate all day and then bus the other one at the end of the day?

 

Or does it make more sense for someone to bus a team mate when that team mate's wagon is building steam at the end of the day so they can appear like they had town's interests at heart?

 

Except that darthe didn't even remember to pretend to have town's interest at heart, because he didn't vote NB to save a town read or even a null read. His statements after the flip said that he was voting a supposedly weaker scum read over his strongest scum read.

 

He can't have it both ways.

 

 

Okay, I get what you're saying but let me tell you a little bit about darthe:

 

I was scum with him and notbob.  we skated to like d3 i think, then we got suss'd.  Both me and a townie were neck and neck.  Darthe tells me to go vote for anyone BUT the townie and them of course.  So I did.  votes came off me like wildfire....  anyway the next day it was me and nb.  darthe said I had to go..so him and nb sacrificed me.

 

yes I know that is totally different than being day 1 but iirc and I'm sure darthe will correct me if I am wrong in my last game with him when he was scum with hallia I believe he pushed her as an early lynch as well....I could be wrong but I don't think so cause he was deep wolf....maybe hallia will remember but she's being really quiet this game also...wondering if it is her scum game, also....

 

with hallia when she is town....she points stuff out and asks a lot of questions almost right from the get go....here she has been somewhat subdued...but that could be rl too....hallia????

[Wildfire Sedai]

can we have a dl timer please???

[DPR]

But, I guess if you're talking passive-aggressive playstyles.

 

DPR You should smile more! It will make you look prettier

 

With all sincerity, it was not meant to reflect gender at all. It was meant to be a humorous comment at her rather serious expression - nothing to do with "pretty".

 

I'm good to spar in the games, as you've embraced with our pet names. But please know that it is never my intention to make things personal or to hurt feelings - this is supposed to be fun. 

[Wildfire Sedai]

or a VC

[Kaylee]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Miss Kizzy Clov (1) - DPR

 

Tiink (2) - Cuth, Miss Kizzy Clov

 

DPR (1) - Seph

 

Darthe (1) - Eldrick

 

Eldrick (1) - Kronos

 

Not Voting: Cass, Darthe, WiFi, Hallia, Tiink, Dice, Spoof, Crusher

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to string 'em up!

 

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, 2/17/17 at 9AM MST