[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[seph]

isod hallia and I am having a really hard time seeing her as mafia this game, while its low volume and that is a big scum tell, her posts have been pretty good, and excellent tone.

[seph]

dpr- if crusher is scum and you are town how would he interact with you? Is he more likely to give you a town read with or without much question, since im assuming how he is talking about you this game?

crush pretty much the same question for dpr.

 

[seph]

ahh im assuming he can read you well.

[DPR]

dpr- if crusher is scum and you are town how would he interact with you? Is he more likely to give you a town read with or without much question, since im assuming how he is talking about you this game?

crush pretty much the same question for dpr.

 

 

 

 

In my experience, when Crusher is scum he plays less, relies almost entirely on charm and falls back on emo in a pinch. Now, he's always charming (he can't help it - he just rolls that way) but he's puttin' in the work this game and sticking his neck out with opinions. 

 

Having said that, it's better to review his posts instead of relying of meta, which is fallible, and he hasn't done anything that I'd say works against the town. Especially compared to other players.

[seph]

ok thanks, going to iso him next. Just trying to get as much done b4 i fall asleep

[dicetosser1]

dice, you gonna doing anything besides spam or do we need to go ahead and run you up?

 

i dont mind votes on me as long as i dont get lynched  just be ready to justify them.

 

 

 

dice, you gonna doing anything besides spam or do we need to go ahead and run you up?

this is a bad post lol. Its obvious he has a view on someone and he wants to see people thoughts.

why not make a reads list for us?

 

Your posts last phase towards kronos when he got a red view and your thoughts on it in generally seemed to be more scum aligned. Like how when kronos got a red and you somehow tried to tie the two together, all in all leaving your vote on kizzyclov who you have literally focused 90% of the game. besides you side comments to eldrick, which you never really followed up with a vote besides the first 10 pages if i remember correctly.

 

What bothers me is even if you are not going to get the lynch you want, as town you should still help solve the game. you however have been just trying to throw everything at kizzyclov who appeared the most scummy the earliest and has, or who you though was a easy lynch. 

 

Another though that bugged me is when the town lynched eldrick you tried your hardest to make it seem like you deserved town cred that day. tbh I think you are one of the remaining wolves. You try to use your loudness to get your way, over facts and logic. 

I know i did this as well day 2 and It royally f'ed me, but there just is something off about all of your play in general.

[v] dpr[/v]

 

I have a reads list I am working on before i started typing this, and I sadly am not sure how much i will be around with my laptop dying on me >< yay for electronics. but after my readslist ill be out for awhile

 

 

 

You think it's obvious dice has a view? Wouldn't it be more effective for him to just say "I have a view?" - nobody is going to vote him after that.

 

Hinting at a pr after you've been caught up in a potential lie is not exactly convincing, especially when you want to buy time in a game filled with inactive players.

 

He also has the time zone advantage for waiting, which in this case works to his advantage if he wants to ride out the clock.

 

For my money, anyone taking any time away form the thread with distractions is looking bad.

 

As for your vote on me, you've been doing that all game. 

 

Of course I'm suspicious of a last minute role reveal that, for the second day in a row, pulled the heat off the liz/clov train. But, I put no focus on Kronos - he's either who he says he is or he's not. It's easy to prove and will shake itself out in favor of the town no matter what, so no danger there.

 

If you've been paying attention, I haven't said anything about liz/clov today. Wifi made a good observation on dice and I've been following up with that.

 

I called Eldrick dirty on D1 and never changed that stance. I just thought, and still do, that liz/clov is dirtier. I was clear before the D2 lynch that I didn't have time to process the reveal so i left my vote where it was.

 

Look, you're all jacked up with your reads and trying to throw my words about facts and evidence back at me is just a knee-jerk response to you feeling bad that you defended Eldrick the way you did. Sit back, relax and let some other people (like Wifi has) make some observations and scum hunt. Otherwise, you just sound like a broken record and become a distraction to the rest o nth game.

 

Red  i havent exactly been subtle. And like i said i dont mind some votes onm me but there better be good reasons.

 

the whole point of my behaviour is that im sitting on a Guilty verdict. We had 2 days before DL. I wanted to use that time to have people talking interacting  to help narrow down on the last scumbag. And ure right i DO want to run the clock down a fair bit. Speed lynching a view loses us the opportunity to see reactions/thoughts and compare them to how they mesh with the person i know is guilty.

 

Only have 5 minutes, but I'll have a decent amount of time tonight (finally)

 

Dice, what's your read on Hallia/Cass?

 

Cass can you share/point me at your current reads? Same for Hallia?

 

I think Cass is town but i have a very big tinfoil hat called cass on  i think ive played in just about every one of her games on dm and i dont think i ever got her right

 

halli hasnt been here so no idea  only thing id go on a limb and say is that i dont think shes the doc this game

[seph]

[v]notbob[/v]

 

I think Lizclov is town, although @liza i would like to see proof from one game that you have said a similar thing as town before i lock you in a bit more

 

i was watching and waiting to see if anyone else would go after liza

 

because the case is wholly legitimate, as a case

 

i think DPR reacted to it it a mildly towny way, was very well handled if he's scum

 

i think notbob did not handle it as well, didn't treat it strongly in a way that felt hedgy, combined with a general tone that i'm not sure about

 

he's my best bet at scum aorn

 

crusher's most likely town and i think sooh is a little towny

readings cuth eod is extremely hard to ever think he is mafia in this game as well. this post in particular. 

 

this brought attention to notbob, this wasn't some sort of poking like hey this guy could be scum.

this is a all in for cuth with this play and i still love it.

 

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

see? told you so

 

 

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

see? told you so

 

[seph]

dice have i mentioned that you are my hero?

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Yeah it essentially clears liss clov with both nb and eld flipped wolf.

 

 

think you need to remember its on ESSENTIALLY. this mafia team has been bussing the hell out of each other

[dicetosser1]

dice have i mentioned that you are my hero?

 

[seph]

since you have a red does that mean I can be lazy now ? im tired lol

[dicetosser1]

since you have a red does that mean I can be lazy now ? im tired lol

 

NO!

 

 

why do u think i was spamming? cause people were mpt posting!

[dicetosser1]

not even

[seph]

 

since you have a red does that mean I can be lazy now ? im tired lol

 

NO!

 

 

why do u think i was spamming? cause people were mpt posting!

 

ill iso crusher and ill redo my list a bit, but then im going to bed!

[dicetosser1]

2 isos seph.

 

consider it punishment for dereliction of duty to the Band!

 

:D

[DPR]

@ dice - handle it how you see fit. I'd have preferred to get everybody's eyes on it, but I see the benefits of you watching as well. Nice work.

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

dice have i mentioned that you are my hero?

 

 

 

 

I MIGHTY MOUSE.  

[Kaylee]

Me too!

[dicetosser1]

hi 5s wifi

[dicetosser1]

and kaylee the ninja

[Wildfire Sedai]

DICE: can you post it before 9pm edt please...

[Kaylee]

and kaylee the ninja

It's part of the good ol shows the kids now a days don't watch. Tis sad

[Wildfire Sedai]

your red read that is???

[Cuth]

Cuth, Seph, Eldrick, BFG, and anyone else who is town - we need to be voting Darthe today.

 

He is scum. We (MrsClov and I) know this. And he knows that we know this. The only thing he's struggling to understand is how we know what we know.

 

At the worst Elrdick is 3p who is currently helping town.

 

And for anyone who is saying I'm scum with Eldrick trying to protect a team mate, consider this: what would this benefit me and my team in the long-run if I am scum?

 

If we push a lynch this strongly on Darthe "knowing" that he is town and he flips town at the end of the day, what happens to Eldrick and us the next day?

 

I've already said that I'm not worried about our flip, because our flip will just confirm that everything MrsClov and I have been saying is true. (Don't worry, Cuth, this isn't a suicide mission, this is me pointing out that we wouldn't say this if we couldnt' back ourselves up after death).

 

But darthe needs to die today.

 

We can sort out Eldrick tomorrow.

i have an incredibly hard time seeing liza pull this out of her sleeve after someone outs a red peek on a partner

 

before that she was also all "eld you can't vote kronos we need to lynch darthe"

 

her reaction was very towny imo

 

read through the thread after that claim and tell me what you think, curious to see your guys' impression

[seph]

 

 

 

 

Screw it I think this lynch gives just as much info as the hydra and notbob's play hasn't been the best. I would rather bet kissyclov is town over notbob and this is the only way i can save them. 

#yolo [unvote] [v] notbbob [/v] #feelsright

 

 

You had me nodding with appreciation as you summed up your case on Eldrick as it was well thought out and with plenty of supporting evidence. 

 

Then you drop your vote on NB without building much of a case at all.

 

Will you say a bit more about your reasoning here - specifically the post where you commented that you could almost vote NB for the post of his that you quoted?

essentially I am not getting eldrick lynched within the next 3 hours or so? While re reading I kept noticing alot of my town reads are reading him highly, and they do in fact read them better than me. So in point here, yes I would like to lynch him, but no its not happening today.

I think lizclov has a better chance at being town over notbob/eldrick/tink so i would like to divert that lynch if at all possible. the best chance I have is a notbob lynch as it still would provide useful info and I do not think I would be lynching a townieover it.

 

 

Fair enough.

 

Will you explain one other point? In the quote I mentioned before ( including NB saying that he doesn't make town-reads on D1) you said that you could almost vote him for that post. I don't see the reason for that. What is the reason?

We have Cloviz as close to a smoking gun you can hope to day 1 in my opinion. But upon catching up 7 pages of horrifying multi quoted gobble gook. Yet, this is jetscodes scum meta without question. More of a big gut feeling guy but this is pretty spot on. I was iffy on him earlier but he isn't kicking in doors and interviewing people like he does as town. I mean hell, he hasn't even addressed me at all yet. If he did I missed it. Definitely gotten worse as day one has gone on. You know I know him very well and I find myself agreeing with What Sooh and Seph has said. Trying to convince myself it's because he is not done reading.

 

[unvote] [v]jetscode[/v]

 

crusher I have a question regarding the boldl If you were so adamant lizclov is mafia, why switch over without trying to argue a case for your current vote. it seemed like you wanted lizclov to be lynched more throughout the day, and even in this pots with the bold.

I also say adamant because you went after her d2 as well and your posts were not as pro town as day 1 where I thought you did have a good thought process.

 

Now you were obviously the deciding vote in the swing to lynch notbob and that itself has its town cred, but I think i may have had you higher on my original list than i needed.