[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Darthe]

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

She calls those alternative facts

[seph]

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

 

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

 

Sorry, explain to me how me calling Dice out over voting me after I voted him was something minimal? Are you thinking I should have ignored his response? How would you have responded to it instead?

 

Omgus is something I consider when you are interacting with someone/ or in a heated debate and one person votes and then the other votes back.

Dice came into thread stating he not only planned to vote you, but actually had a reason for the vote.

 

Later on you ask cuth to comment on deice being omgus, now when you re-asked the question it seems you took out the omgus after having people comment on it.

I would have acutally responded to the reason he voted me, Not call him omgus when your vote was not even a serious one to begin with.

[unvote] [v] miss kizzy clov[/v]

[MrsClov]

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

She calls those alternative facts

 

 

I just died inside.... a lot. Ugh.

[Darthe]

 

DPR, what made you call Eldrick "wound up" in the first place?

 

His playstyle (that I've experienced, and that is just one game pryor to this) is interesting because of the way he poses questions - it reminds me of trial lawyers stating the obvious before they swoop in and lay down the evidence. There is a quality in those questions that could be sincere equerry, but might also be cover to lull the game into believing he's Town early on. Maybe he's just curious, but I'm still sorting out a subtle tension that I get form him. Could be OCD. Could be he's on his way to a brilliant legal career.

 

Regardless, please consider my vote a bookmark at this point. No one is in danger of being lynched and we're all basically on our first drink at the party. Personally, I like to get a few in me before I lay down serious votes.

Smart analysis DPR

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

My body is ready. Let's get it on.

Cigars are stinky, though...

 

But have you ever tried one?

 

Vote Eldrick - he's wound up tighter than my grip on a bottle of whisky. And that's pretty tight.

 

Yeah. Not wound up at all lol.

 

Hope you survive D1 this time. I really want to play more than a couple days with you and get a feel for you.

 

What if he's scum?

 

Tripling (quadding?) Down on liz wolf

 

Because of that question?

Do you even understand the question?

[Darthe]

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No, you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

this seems aggressive, like you need to put out a fire before you cant handle it.

 

Good to know you two are a hydra though idk if its gonna do anything for you.

[Tiinker]

 

 

 

 

 

pretty sure i want to just lock dice in as town

Pour quoi?

 

It's one word really heh

 

Don't correct my French! I'm Canadian, don't embarrass me in public!

 

You're believer, right?

 

 You mean in miracles? Yes yes. Otherwise, no.

 

Sorry! What's your skype name again? I think I've talked to you on skype.

 

 

It's Nikki

[Darthe]

 

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

 

No, you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

 

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

It looks like thats skipping a step or two. Its more,

 

"I wanna vote darthe but will ask my hydra of its ok"

"Ok ima vote dice cause I got pressure for saying the above"

"No I didnt need to confer to vote dice"

"Of course I confer with my hydra before making a vote"

 

Thats how it looks to me at least

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

 

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

 

Sorry, explain to me how me calling Dice out over voting me after I voted him was something minimal? Are you thinking I should have ignored his response? How would you have responded to it instead?

 

Omgus is something I consider when you are interacting with someone/ or in a heated debate and one person votes and then the other votes back.

Dice came into thread stating he not only planned to vote you, but actually had a reason for the vote.

 

Later on you ask cuth to comment on deice being omgus, now when you re-asked the question it seems you took out the omgus after having people comment on it.

I would have acutally responded to the reason he voted me, Not call him omgus when your vote was not even a serious one to begin with.

[unvote] [v] miss kizzy clov[/v]

 

No, I took out the question because he already answered it.

 

I will go back and reread what Dice actually said, because all I saw was him reacting to my suggestions that I would vote for him and then me voting for him.

 

And you made my point about his reaction - my vote wasn't serious and he took it seriously. So how is that not an OMGUS? I'm not saying it makes him scum, but my perception was that he shows up in the thread 3 minutes after I voted him and quotes the two posts from me that have to do with him and nothing else that I said.

[Darthe]

 

 

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

 

Not necessarily just Darthe just hey let's discuss before we vote, but otherwise you are correct. As you can see from our vote, we agreed to keep it on Dice.

What did you discuss wrt Darthe?

Good pressuring here, cass is town

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

That he's doing it again is so null it's hilarious.

 

A) Huge difference between him doing it last game and this game is this game is closed. We don't even know IF there's a vig.

 

B) Darthe claiming early in general is null by itself.

 

C) He could easily do this again if he rolled scum again as equally as he could as town.

That's interesting from you. I cant decide if I believe you grew, or if its just good rationale.

I have my moments.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No, you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

 

this seems aggressive, like you need to put out a fire before you cant handle it.

 

Good to know you two are a hydra though idk if its gonna do anything for you.

 

Explain how she's being aggressive here?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

As you can see from our vote, we agreed to keep it on Dice.

Why?

It needed to marinate.

Riiight. You said that.

 

Playing at work has its downsides. Lack 9f retention is a big one.

Well, the fact that we've both said it should tell you that we have reasons that we're not ready to discuss yet. Every single thought doesn't need to be in the thread the very moment it's constructed.

You dont have any particular right to space, but youve asked for it a couple times now or tried to get it in some way.

[Songstress]

Official Vote Count

Darthe Wade (1): Cass
Dice, The Lone Stranger (1):  Miss Kizzy Clov
Miss Kizzy Clov (3): Dice, Darthe, Seph
Hallia Cogburn (1): Kronos
Eldrick the Kid (1): DPR
 
Not Voting: Sooh, NotBob, WiFi, Hallia, Cuth, Tiinker, Spoof, Crusher, Eldrick


With 16 alive it takes 9 to string em up!
Mod note: No deadline has been set for D1 at this time.  Once everyone has checked in a deadline and countdown timer will be added to the vote counts.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

Not necessarily just Darthe just hey let's discuss before we vote, but otherwise you are correct. As you can see from our vote, we agreed to keep it on Dice.

What did you discuss wrt Darthe?

To watch him carefully, but not vote for him right now.

That's not generic

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

its still a contradiction mrsclov sher needed to consult on Darthe but not on me.

 

if the darthe one is just being a good hydra what is the one on me?? One second she needs to consult then she doesnt on someone else shortly thereafter?

No, you're making it a contradiction, most likely because it involves you. It was an "Oh yeah, I'm in a hydra" moment. I didn't know about the vote on you until after the vote was placed and we talked it out. So that's when she mentioned conferring with me on Darthe. We fill the same spot, and that's not something either of us are used to doing. It is just a result of us trying to figure out how to hydra for the first time, but you're making it into something else.

 

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

 

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

 

It looks like thats skipping a step or two. Its more,

 

"I wanna vote darthe but will ask my hydra of its ok"

"Ok ima vote dice cause I got pressure for saying the above"

"No I didnt need to confer to vote dice"

"Of course I confer with my hydra before making a vote"

 

Thats how it looks to me at least

 

How much of that conversation with Cass do you think was serious?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

i getcha, but there's really not much content at this point or stuff to talk about, lady clov

But there won't be any content if nobody contributes content.

 

Pull up a chair. Have a shot of whiskey. Chat with us for a while.

 

What do you think of Darthe's vigilante claim and MrsClov's concerns about that claim and Eldrick's explanation about why it's null?

 

What do you think of me voting Dice and Dice's OMGUS on me?

 

What do you think of DPR's suspicions of Eldrick and Eldricks' suspicion of me?

 

Isn't Cass adorable?

 

And what's your favourite colour?

 

There! Lots to discuss!

This, on the other hand, is very good.

 

Don't like that Cuth isn't finding something to contribute. Possibly chalk it up to different site, different style. /shrug

 

But your proactive approach to give him topics is a really good look.

different style, playing in another higher-activity game

 

i could post more but i don't know anyone and there wasn't a significant level of readage going on when i was in here so meh

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Prob town

[seph]

 

 

 

i question your stance that being proactive and encouraging discussion is "a really good look"; it's mildly pro-town, but not in any super significant way

Which is enough for an early d1 read.

 

I disagree, most of those questions didn't really serve a purpose to the thread besides appearing to be helpful. there was 1 out of 4? that possibly helped the thread move along. I appreciate her helping cuth get into the game, and try to make him feel more welcomed. But I though they were more questions to appear helpful imo. The dice thing has already been talked about but liz was seriously calling dice omgus over something so minimal appeared really wolfy to me.

 

let's be friends

 

[Darthe]

 

 

No Caszander?

 

I was looking forward to Caszander :(

 

Anyway, this would be the point at which I would join the RVS wagon on Darthe, but I feel like I should confer with my better half first...

[V] liz wolfiest post itg so far

Come on Darthe - you like the attention. Admit it

This is not a good reaction

[Cuth]

 

 

 

Bold:

So order of hydra events:

- Vote Dice

- Discuss Dice vote

- Discuss conferring on Darthe ?

Not necessarily just Darthe just hey let's discuss before we vote, but otherwise you are correct. As you can see from our vote, we agreed to keep it on Dice.

What did you discuss wrt Darthe?

Good pressuring here, cass is town

 

i would like to once again iterate that, in my experience, pressuring is not a town read

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

I really am

tbh I read it and thought you would actually be telling the truth lol. that or you at least have some killing power haha

It could happen!

[Cuth]

[vote]lizabeth[/vote]

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

He did?

 

Hmmm....

seriously, Liz woofin

Ugh...quotes

 

If I were you'd never know it

 

What's your read on MrsClov?

Def bad responses. Easy game, gg, no rematch

[Lizabeth]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

 

He did?

 

Hmmm....

 

 

seriously, Liz woofin

 

 

Ugh...quotes

 

If I were you'd never know it

 

What's your read on MrsClov?

 

i feel very meh about this response

 

and maybe want to lynch it

 

What's there to feel meh about?

 

it doesn't really line up with your earlier position of calling someone who perceivably omgus'd you out

 

and shoves the accusation into a corner

 

what happened to responding to accusations

 

I am responding to accusations. I'm trying to determine how serious he is about his read on me and forcing him to talk about my hydra partner.

[Cuth]

[vote]lizabeth[/vote]

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