Even if the Bible is not divinely inspired, it nevertheless possesses a certain literary significance and stands as a reflection of the civilizational development of a people, from their earliest beginnings through to the Iron Age. For me, the question of the work’s factual truth is secondary when reading it, just as one may appreciate and cherish beautiful passages in belles lettres without feeling compelled to believe that the work is anything more than a literary composition. King Lear and Hamlet hold immense literary value, even though their protagonists are nothing more than fictional figures within a framework created by the author. So do not reproach me, dear friend, if I dare to quote the so-called Holy Scripture, even though I do not believe in talking snakes or donkeys, and if I harbor well-founded doubts that the world is no more than six thousand years old, as apologists would have it.

I understand that you don't consider the Bible divinely inspired. But if you don't find it meaningful then why quote it? Seems a waste...

Thoughtful analysis. Whitecloaks perfectly illustrate how moral absolutism and unchecked authority corrupt ideals, reminding us vigilance and empathy matter always.

"Let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil" (or similar phrasing) is Matthew 5:37 in the New Testament. Although I occasionally quote from the Bible, this should in no way be taken to imply that I regard its statements as meaningful or divinely inspired; there are simply too many contradictions—and indeed instances of cruelty that are either permitted or even instigated by God (To set the record straight: it was, of course, not God, but rather the mindset of a human civilization from the Late Bronze Age..) By way of example, one might cite misogyny, slavery, and even mass murder—including that of the unborn and of infants… but that would be a chapter in its own right.

Brevity is the soul of wit: let your speech be “Yes, yes; no, no.” Anything beyond that is evil.

Oh, I didn't want to seem rude....

Maybe it's cos we all read long books, in a massive book series, that has many many drawn out details and unnecessary Faile chapters. But actually most of us are not literary talents, well not in the general discussion pages anyways. Maybe the RP section can get down with the oodles of words about sniffing and skirt straightening, but yeah... in General Discussion and the other regular forums it's best to be clear and concise. I too was not able to follow 😞

It does not. Don't take the blame for what other people do, or don't do, Caelon.

Rowling fired her first agent, but I haven't heard anything about editors. She wouldn't have had the power to do so anyway because they are/were employees of the publishing house. I will say that there is a give-and-take relationship with an editor. My tarot deck originally had a different name, but the publisher wanted to change it. Initially, they wanted something with the word 'healing' in it, which I strongly opposed. We went back and forth for a while before marketing (not me) decided it would be called The Butterfly Wisdom Tarot. When we were doing edits for the guidebook, they told me there were certain sections that needed to be rewritten, and because I had pushed back so hard on the title, I didn't have much of a choice but to do the rewrites since I would like to publish a follow up title with them and I don't want the team to think I'm a difficult author to work with or anything like that. (Good news, my editor said she did like working with me and hopes she can work on my next project). However, if I were JK Rowling's level...Then I could have just said "nope, it's perfect," and they would have gone to print since they know it would sell a bajillion copies. I know RJ's eventual wife was his at-home editor for a long time, but I can only imagine how sticky that could get after a while. And, of course, the speed pressure/issue of needing to get the books out as quickly as possible...it's not surprising and a shame.

Actually, according to Jordan the publisher picked up his pitch for a story that would be five-six books and he was given six and told if it was five he could just write something else for the sixth. Because "he liked the way [Jordan] writes". Not that I disagree that editing could very well be a lower priority as books progress and the story gets more locked in and the power of the author increases. Didn't Rowling sack her editors? Maybe that is just a malicious rumour I heard.

Just started Lord of Chaos. Honestly, I don't want to see Rand in a box, so I squeezed in two books before cracking LoC open. Just read through the Prologue and...60 pages? For a prologue? Pick one POV and call it a Prologue, the rest can have proper chapters or something. And some condensing/cutting/editing. Yes, some details are necessary to create suspense, like Sevanna having the cube, but did we really need Demandred in Shayol Ghul and then a meeting with the other Forsaken with Demandred telling them his orders from Shayol Ghul? Those two scenes could easily have been turned into one. This is actually something I see happen to a lot of writers with long series (**cough Dresden Files**). Their first book gets lots of editing while it's being shopped around, then it gets picked up. Great! Now you don't have the same amount of time to spend on developmental editing, which is fine, overediting is a thing, but then the series becomes POPULAR. Suddenly, you need to pump books out as fast as you can because $$$, so what falls by the wayside? Editing, and you get lots of issues that would have been ironed out if there had been just another developmental round.

I’m sorry, but unfortunately my English skills are insufficient, and I must admit that I failed to understand this post. I apologize, and the fault certainly lies with me.

Bi lingual as a native speaker of both languages is cool. This is an English posting only forum, bit not all our members have English as a first language. It's to do with the moderation that the request to post in English is requested. I think you type as you follow thoughts in your mind. It feels very swoopy up and down when I read your posts. It is hard to fully understand what point you are trying to make sometimes, as your sentences are very long and often fanciful with their terminology. I think Elgee mentioned it elsewhere, but it would be easier to engage if we had a bit more punctuation and shorter sentences. Generally we like to have a bit of a chit chat so not every post has to be deep and meaningful:)

@Archdragon Could you possibly honour us with some punctuation? Perchance some grammar? Asking for a friend.

why i believe something maybe aboutr u cant connec two with third without me doing my full part pointing out that neon lights are very common to places where gambling/like practices take places as mayhap incomplete wayshowing on my part in addition to the post current content hoping you can logically conceive this like people i actually talk about it all can.

I had to create a new discord account because for some reason from 1 day to the next my discord account wouldn't work. Here's the new me: motherelgee.

so about 15-20 years ago when i was spending time on my computer musing aboıut this and that thisly and thatly, unexpectedly as i was looking at my screen on my windows 98 desktop being also at the folder location desktop positionally, what i was looking at was suddenly something else that i was able to extract into a screen shot and is criminally responsble for half my lost sanity. i have hating memoris about trying to share this because of its hardness to get past it at first looking like a common human experience exaggarated, but it is actually not. but it is easier time after time of trying as when you do this at anything you get better, it still is allways frustrating to see how something that are descripable as weird stories are always thats jsut stories but mine carry a memento with it that i cant get rid of for i for one am able to see how it can be important among similar others if only because it is with proof and also what the story actually tries to share at the same time to how undescripably weird something that really happpened is, so naturally you want to see what i saw and but of course ill also uncover some at first easy to miss very weird things about it that are enough but nto limited that i cant take my mind away nor these parts from such a post or from when i talk about it to someone until i complete the retelling of my experience. complete summary: 1:this picture appeared on my computer desktop 2:i know there is no similar to it or same to it picture on my computer 3:the only in same physicsly beliavable explanation left to me at the time is some one was able to hack into my computer for reasons unknown and made appear this picture that is both weird/wrong/mayhap from a more positive perspective can be said is supernatural when not believing and actually knowing no one would be able to hack to my computer by virtues of being very familiar to computers to the degree of possesing a bachelor of science on computer sciences (but in all honesty it returns truth as a rape to my mind and my otherly mostly pure angle at existence at the time at first at second and at third sight for the following reasons ill explain easily concievablely) first reason: the neon sign(is a very unlikely thing to see here) that is on the right sight of the road that is in front of the car that is moving on the road and seems to be the moving "place" where the picture is taken in from and then somehow became corrupted seems to be taken in my country(by general pattern recognitino and wandering) when looked closely consists of 4 objects that are the letter E my first names first letter then the letter T my main names first letter and then another E that is my surname followed by a half or symbolically other meaning havingly also arguablely mentionabl letter low case c. second reason: at theleft top of the picture there is a face of a reptile dragon very easy to see. third and finally completing a trio we all might recognize and agree meaning a same trio we all know as three ta'veren in the series, a wolves head that is at first harder to discern but ill describe the easy first thing to see to see it by mentioning the side triangle at the mid left of the picture being a the profile wolves heads's nose and naturally when you follow the lines differentiating the night sky with the other general things in the picture you will reach the wolves eye part and then as if bald becasue of the texture head part and lastly you will reach the ear and expect the back part that would be the behind of the nose the neck of the wolves heads's part. following this seeming intent design and deeply personal level of interaction i find perrin rand and then mat and I, and at a young age i choose be positive and begin believing i am given supernatural luck by a same creator that i previously didnt believe to exist, and you might guess how dangereous that can get in this actually gray and unforgiving reality. and here it is and whatever, it is related to wot and i began to be active minding my own business more than others can mind others's and it would be missing if i didnt mention and share it.

as sayings goes, i similarly liked and also stated to many beforely unheard ears this when i say you will fully know what i speak about before saying it, while fighting with them and in my mind thought myself gentlemanly debating with them instead about different things with people connected to each other *laughs* in terms of me using the saying that is that when it comes to being a man everywhere there was a single sharingly acceptebely thinkable common truth and that was i informingly spoke and quoted it was that they should face what is coming to their way on their feet and retortingly added they were not doing it and completeling concluded in contrast i was doing it. by means of downing their manners in the discussions after proving many things and facing maybe only ad hominem.

i did not choose to be arrogant for very objectivally provable reasons that are out of context that i feel is not welcome for me to go into but ill continue by saying and but also those reasons can be considered i repeat to add clarity those reasons are argueably not out of context in terms of them also being weird but unarguable facts.

i believe you are all very strange when i generalize you as native single language english speakers lol i am native bilingual and it is very usual for me to with unexpected smoothnes carryingly change between two languages in an unexpected finesse that is because i when i do this unusual change of language switching i am continuing to be understantable by the other party in their other languagely descripable differently native minds.

hi i sometimes try english amirite is more sincere than this logical connections that seems too many but proved is not. and this allso carries humbleness seemingly coming from the pointed out and known usage being not perfect but the reason is not at first mightly generally thinkable lack of intellect or skill but the logical connections transformin from knowing into full description when honestly considered is a hard thing to tacklely I stand my point.

in both worlds that is equally important in each different contextes for predictabelly knowable different reasons and is an self completing but lengthening more than expectedly because of both personal and both because of my argumently of it being a not mentionedly and not saidly nature carrryingly continued thing being what it is but should be mentionedly more important than not mentionedly saidly importantly not saidly descripable pattern differentiating observationsly provable thing and thirdly because the topic is such topic that if is related to pattern recognition it suddenly becomes exponentially more encompassing in every wayly reason encompassing thingly descriped partly and finally completely concludingly defined thing is what it is i say. it is a 3 thing that is at the same time one thing. feels like word salad but actually definition and completionism perfectionism and hard work is what it is the truth be said instead. and i want to add the reason for this post is similar to those conditions in terms of being related to pattern recgonition(when you think from this starting point actually i believe it can be argued everything is uninterestingly so too) but/and i say it in terms of my observation related to its consideration when such conditions ar mentioned but actually is not similar to the said center of reason because its not that and is a different thing since in contrast with the said uninterestigneness because is a thing that is only less generalizing termly descripable kind of pattern recognition that went on in my head and also is kinda arrogantly stating something in terms of manner a but actually i believe is usually not considered because i never saw itly being considered by mely less than usally considered when talked aboutly rare enough thing to otherly contrast the it is arrogant argument.

HIII ZEV!! (Late to the welcome party, but it has to be said, just in case there's more than one great fandom connection 🙂) Hopefully you've found your way around and have something to sink your teeth into. Down the track there's also the opportunity for role-playing your own character in the WoT World via the roleplay section (currently under a bit of a revamp), if you like creative writing...

Hello 🙂 New to Mafia... which is not really happening at the moment, or new to DM. or both? Welcome to the forums

Hey I am new here