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Mailman

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  1. But it's not even that. Emonds Field does not have people wandering about assaulting each other for lack of respect, it is only Nynaeve. The example you provide in relation to the Aiel everyone in the society is operating under the same societal norms. The Aiel in the books did not have an obsession with spanking that I remember. The punishments seemed to vary in my memory and often seemed specifically targeted to cause the individual the most discomfort mentally rather than physically. Aviendha was subjected to running laps, cleaning, a set of stripes from Amys (unsure if this was limited to the rear) and when they went all out it was meaningless work that was prescribed not physical punishment.
  2. If I remember rightly the Wisdom is the leader of all woman's circles in each village. The new wisdom is usually trained by the previous (watch hill i think appointed a trained wisdom from another village to avoid any favouritism). I am unsure within the villages what corporal punishment you are referring to among the adults is? The only example i can come up with is the couple who slept together before marriage and that would have been a punishment decided by the womans circle not just a random temper tantrum. I am not ignoring it with the children it is simply not relevant to include a parent disciplining a child in this discussion, and no I do not condone it as a method of discipline. This discussion has to do with a grown woman physically striking people simply for an actual or a perceived lack of respect. Saying that this actual or perceived lack of respect is enough to place some of the responsibility on the assaulted is not okay. Yes I will call it victim blaming because it is.
  3. Nynaeve was not democratically appointed. The mayor used the illusion of a threat in Luhans's muscles to directly counter an explicit threat to burn down the Inn and kill or injure people. If you cannot see the difference between that and actually striking people whom you deem are disrespecting you then you need to look closer. The mayor did not threaten to assault Cenn when he was aware that he had disrespected the council and himself by divulging the fireworks.
  4. It really feels like you are saying the bullied and abused must share some of the blame for her physical violence being effective. I doubt, and hope it was not, that was your intention.
  5. Well thats great for a religion guided literally by GOD. Far more likely that some good men who happened to be christians fought for freedom than that good chrisitians fought for freedom because of their faith.
  6. Hilarious the clearly out of context support of slavery. The salad approach or choosing to ignore the parts that are no longer morally acceptable is a joke. As mankind advances it drags the morals of the church with it as they desperately attempt to stay relevant. The bible especially the old testament is a book of evil.
  7. Lol at giving credit to the christian religion for the abolition of slavery only 18 centuries after the new testament and that after specifically supporting it earlier in the "holy" book.
  8. Saying they were equally involved is incorrect. The male Aes Sedai made the ways and then the Ogier contributed the superficial decoration. It would be like claiming that someone who decals a car was equally responsible for the making of a car as Ford. The Ways were primarily created for the Ogier to be able to travel between stedding without having to deal with the longing and not for travel to human cities even if they ended up using it for that purpose later. The male Aes Sedai sheltered in the stedding where they were cut off from the one power and this was their gift to the Ogier for that sanctuary. It is believed though not confirmed that the befouled power used to create the ways is what caused the corruption.
  9. Seachan made no use of channeling in healing prior to the return and even then I think it was considered at best distasteful to submit to it.
  10. I am not saying that finding a Black warder is impossible just that it removes a complication. There are a few Black warders mentioned in the book. Thomas who is Verin's warder is confirmed to be Black during the reveal with Egwene. I can't remember the sister's name but a Green/Black thinks about how she had relaxed masking her bond and that 2 of her 3 warders approaching where tied to the shadow.
  11. Reds also take no warders. A sister with a non black warder would have a difficult time hiding potential activities from them.
  12. He escaped with Fain who was with the trollocs I believe. Also would a trolloc be a suitable host, do shadowspawn have souls to be consumed allowing his escape.
  13. It is the Fain. Rand confirms it in Fal Dara when they capture him.
  14. Didn't Mat stab or cut the bloated form with the dagger.
  15. Mat is the only one that has question marks. To the best of my knowledge, he only has 3 confirmed lovers Melinhdra, Tylin and Tuon. It is heavily implied that he slept or pursued a number of maids and waitress's but from what I can remember all the scenes that actually are in the books ended with nothing more than dancing and kissing. Perrin only sleeps with Faile. Rand only sleeps with Aviendha (two times only), Elayne (once) and Min (multiple times). It is possible that if you are assessing it on amount of times they actually have sex in total and not partners that Perrin could come out on top.
  16. I'm not sure if it was a talent but I remember the sister brought into the hall asking for permission to channel towards the Ash'a'man because he was bonded to one of sisters that had come to present the offer from the Black Tower. Actually having to channel would vastly reduce it's effectiveness as the man would be able to sense you channeling while you were scanning. I think they might have potentially developed this from the idea given from Moggy, although I am not sure if that was confirmed. There was definitely Ter'angreal that could detect and track channeling. The devices in Far Madding also had the same tech as Cadsuanes trinkets.
  17. The rebel Tower does come up with a method to sense somewhat Saidan and the direction of it as demonstrated when the Black Tower envoy is addressing the hall. It is not much more explored than that I think. I don't remember them specifically sensing male channeling outside that though. There is another scene i think where Graendal and another female forsaken are about to strike at each other and Demandred (I think) starts to gather power to do something which is interrupted by one of the other male forsaken and it is stated that neither had any idea what he might have been doing.
  18. Not sure what the fact that 3 young virgins experienced more sexual activity after they left the village has to do with what is the accidental or forced activity you are referring to?
  19. Assuming that the staff is not insanely thin then those weapons are not going to straight cut through a hardwood staff cleanly which means until the integrity of the weapon was compromised by repeated blows that the weapon could continue for a considerable time. Then the question would come down to the armour being employed full plate until gunpowder came to the fore was more beaten by attacking the weak spots or blunt force than being stabbed through. None of the BS of running a man through the front and back of a plate armour with a single thrust. The staff would also have the potential advantage of greater range than anything apart from the spear.
  20. I don't think this statemen is correct. Not being entirely sure of your book progress i will not start examining things in detail but if you could provide the examples that have led you to this belief would be handy.
  21. mistake
  22. But retention of members is key as well if you are only watching WoT on Prime then you only need to be a member for 2 months every 2 years. That is a shit outcome for Prime. It's one of the reasons I cannot understand how we have got to the point of loads of shows doing 8 episode seasons with near 2 year breaks, If anything the old 24 epsiode season with yearly release feels like a far better fit for the modern streaming market.
  23. After all this time barring new announcements it is most unlikely that new insights are going to emerge.
  24. An argument on the meaning of a prophecy does not make it an unreliable narrator. It is the same as a battle plan being wrong does not make it one either. And none of this changes the fact that the prophecies themselves are remarkably accurate. You seem to be asking for a list instead of a prophecy and anything short of that makes the prophecy an unreliable narrator. Mr. Rand Al'Thor born Dragonmount adopted by Tam Al'Thor living in two rivers for 18 years before becoming The Dragon and eventually bleeding on the rock outside Shayol Gul before fighting the Dark One/Ishmael is hardly going to work as a prophecy. Nialls belief in what the final battle is simply him being wrong and not an unreliable narrator as we are aware at the time he is thinking it that he is wrong. Odin and Thor have nothing to do with anything in this conversation even if they are the inspiration for the characters in some manner. I would argue that the ability to try again and too do better and continue to try and do our best when we come back is a far more clear theme especially when viewed during Rand's final battle with Ishy, also within his fight with Ishy and the Dark One is the fact that they want to break this pattern and stop the wheel forever.
  25. Interested in how the Prophecy could possibly be considered an unreliable narrator especially considering how they all seem to come true. If you are giving the prophecies the definition of a narrator, which i am not sure you can, they seem to be incredibly reliable. People forgetting knowledge over millennia also does not meet the definition of the unreliable narrator.
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