5 hours ago, Sabio said:

Isn't that what the madness does, makes one go insane and kill things?

Yes. And by that definition, the fact that Logain refutes the urgings of the shadows to kill the King should be revelatory.

BTW I've seen posts about events in Episode 5, including some related to Perrin. Are those predictions or based upon some authoritative Episode 5 preview that exist somewhere?

Just now, Yojimbo said:

I was hoping it was Nabobs of Negativity.    An oldie but a goodie.

It is catchy. But consider the source:  Spiro Agnew, disgraced and resigned (one step ahead of the jailer) VP of the USA.

5 minutes ago, Jackdaw_Fool said:

Now it doesn't matter anyway

You got that right.

1 minute ago, JaimAybara said:

*Is N&N a Negative Nancy? Sorry if this is a dumb question. 

Not bad, although it's "Naysayers and Nitpickers", pat. pending.

3 minutes ago, Sir_Charrid said:

I have realised that in my tired sleep deprived state

Typically that's the only way I can get a reaction out of someone. 

To put a bowtie on the discussion of what BS said, or didn't say: Why would anybody base their personal opinion of a show (or anything) upon what a another person said? I don't care if that other person is the Lord High Foobar of All Things Subjective, not being a slavish follower of fashion or anything else, I would judge it on my own. The N&Ns have stated their negativity. Whether it's based upon their own flawed logic or their slavishly following what BS said or didn't say is of indifference. Good luck to them. They are not trying to cornvince anyone because if they were, they would at least use cornvincing arguments.

1 minute ago, Gothic Flame said:

Already answered.

And refuted.

Just now, Gothic Flame said:

You can honestly claim that Amazon wouldn't want the author who wrote the last books on the team? 

Reality check; he is.

Or do you imagine that he's donating his time for free?

Ok. Logic is "the study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning." Your proposition is that since BS doesn't say he dislikes Amazon, it's because he is being paid. That is flawed "logic." Another possibility is that he both likes it, and he is getting paid. Another branch of that "logic" is that he is being forced to like it because being paid by Amazon is essential to his well-being. Knowing that he was living well, before Amazon came along, invalidates that possibility. Finally, you are implying that he is a scoundrel who would "like" something which he actually doesn't, just to get paid. What fact is that conclusion based upon? Therefore, I recommend the Illuminati/Elder's of Zion theory as superior in "logic" to yours.

1 minute ago, Gothic Flame said:

Logic is more reliable.

Flawed logic ain't.

4 minutes ago, Gothic Flame said:

Money. 

Dude's getting paid. 

C'mon you can do better than that with a conspiracy theory. How about the Illuminati are holding his children as hostages and the Elders of Zion will destroy his mansion with space lasers.

Some ambitious mod like Caddysedai might plot the waves of negative posts versus time. Is it once a day, correlated with a time zone? Is there a particular hemisphere that hates RJ2 and everything he stands for? Is it a Faceless-19 surge, as each new variant mutates? Inquiring minds may never know.

1 minute ago, WhiteVeils said:

The Trollocs/Darkfriends didn't interrogate Nynaeve

Now there's a scene I want to see: Trollocs interrogation.

1 minute ago, Sir_Charrid said:

This is a frustration for me regarding the 5th dragon,

Following dialog about the 5th candidate DR, the first scene focuses on Logain's face, and the second Nyn. Just sayin'.

1 minute ago, Yojimbo said:

If she had a foretelling on a specific day then why can't Moraine count to 20, or however many years they are now saying it was from that day to the day she went to EF?

She tried to check the birth records, but the office had mysteriously burned down in the Trolloc raid.

3 minutes ago, Sir_Charrid said:

I am going to be controversial here but, I have tried reading brandon Sandersons work, really can't stand it, mistborn, his supposed masterpiece bored me

Forgiven.

2 minutes ago, Yojimbo said:

 I specifically mentioned Gitara Moroso's Foretelling, which is the event that began Moiraine's journey to find the DR.   I guess she never made that foretelling in this version of the story then.

It's there in a way. The blind AS.

3 minutes ago, AusLeviathan said:

Just not enough to attend the premiere unfortunately.

What!!! Cancel my lifetime subscription.

They just exhumed JRRT and he said "I hate the PJ movies. They are not an adaptation." 

Well...that changes things for me. Now, I also hate them.

10 minutes ago, dog421 said:

No, for better or worse, we have to watch. no choice.

Omg, this sounds like a cry for an intervention. Please wink once with each eye if you are being held hostage.

4 minutes ago, dog421 said:

As I went through all of that, it seriously made me question whether or not I want to keep watching the show. I don't know if I will. The books were better. Way better.

Well, we would hate to see you go. Just be assured that your negativity will be amply represented by the N&N cadre here.

1 minute ago, AusLeviathan said:

Yes he has actually. Sanderson has said both those things, he was even recently on reddit reaffirming that this isn't an adaptation of the WOT books.

If he said that, which is doubtful, then he doesn't know what an adaptation is. Just because he's a good writer doesn't make him a genius in all things. Look at Elon Musk ;)--great at electric cars and rockets...other things--not so good. See the definition of adaptation, usefully given above by Dead Warder.

1 minute ago, dog421 said:

I hated

Goodness. You don't want to be thought of a "hater." Do you? (If anyone thinks I am cherry-picking quotes, that was repeated 7 times in a post of modest length.)

3 minutes ago, Gothic Flame said:

But I think they should get away from making a claim that this is some "adaptation," since it really isn't.

The N&Ns ideas are not an adaptation. Amazon's are.

1 minute ago, dog421 said:

When they did gentle him, it seemed that it had to be done, so that whole conversation about Liandrin going around gettting support for the gentling seems like it just went nowhere. It is probably something that could have hit the cutting room floor, without much effect on the rest of the story. Unless the amyrlin shows up later and asks, "what's this I hear about you trying to gentle Logain before he broke free?" It seems like a waste of time. Now that I think about it, a lot of the stuff in that episode was kind of stupid. That green's wards didn't sound an alarm until after everyone in the camp started screaming that Logain's army

It makes perfect sense. She lobbied to gentle him. And controversially, she may have allowed him to escape, to put her plan into effect. In any case when he escaped, and killed Kerene, they were all primed for the ultimate penalty. Kerene's wards sounded early.

1 minute ago, DojoToad said:

Someone got a leak directly from Rafe 

I knew you would be happy!