2 minutes ago, ArrylT said:

Basically think they're trying to establish a sort of rhythm sort of like in rowing with quiet/loud or soft / hard or subtle/in your face

Good theory. GoT after a season, went to BIG episodes 9 (not a choice here, yet). But WoT still has to find it's rhythm.

1 minute ago, AusLeviathan said:

I don't understand why they just didn't make their own original series, they clearly have no interest in telling the Wheel of Time story and just want to make up their own story instead.

You had me. Then you lost me.

3 minutes ago, Dead Warder said:

I don't even know if I should be happy or mad, satisfied or hungry, appreciative or disappointed. 

Check ALL the boxes 

1 minute ago, Wolfbrother31 said:

I do read the Questioners as basically Inquisition style "truth" seekers.

Yes. I think they are meant to throw back to the Spanish I. The motivation is religion and the torturing is just right for them--Iron Maiden, etc.

2 minutes ago, Wolfbrother31 said:

Don't especially like that the WC are Nazis

I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

51 minutes ago, Pandemonium said:

Also wonder why Valda is so certain Egwene can channel, but that he let Moiraine off so easily 

Moiraine, and her party, looked like more trouble than he wanted to mess with. A party of Tinkers? Torture away!

1 hour ago, themann1086 said:

I'm glad Perrin was finally able to tell someone what really happened. Absolutely heartwrenching

Was that flashback the same camera angle as Episode 1? If so, I hadn't noticed how intent Laila seemed on slicing Perrin.

2 minutes ago, phoenixtrinity said:

but I thought Mat was looking at Logain,

Yes. I thought it implied Logain was laughing at Matt. But maybe the combo.

1 hour ago, Nors said:

But I like this idea that men, when using the same power as women can't help but turn it bad.

The BA and the female Forsaken do enough evil with "clean" One Power.

9 minutes ago, AusLeviathan said:

work with the wolfdogs didn't go well

Yes. The wolf attack was underwhelming. This was the weakest episode, sadly, but still advanced the plot. Catching its breath, we can hope.

3 minutes ago, Agitel said:

According to the behind the scenes for this episode, they intended it to be bookended by two funerals to emphasize the relationship between Aes Sedai and Warder

It was part of slowing the action down. I'd like to see one confrontation after another, but that's probably not good filmmaking.

2 minutes ago, Mnemosyne said:

Logain seeing Rand and roaring with laughter was powerful

At least it wasn't "roaring with madness." ?

10 minutes ago, Agitel said:

We never saw that type of ritual in the books. 

I don't mind making up things, but to force (some of the) audience to flash back to another fantasy series has to be an unforced error. 

1 hour ago, CaddySedai said:

Child Valda got read like a book. Lol. Still a monster tho.

Looks like he survived to torture another day.

Do AS rings melt in the Book?

19 minutes ago, 2RiversFan said:

4.  Loial!!!!! but waaaay too short

I guess they chose between a big CGI hit, and an actor being able to act without being too encumbered.

The Cracks of Doom in a brazier. That was a bit too much of a visual "homage." The AS ring melted like the One Ring. Is that in the Book? 

1 minute ago, Agitel said:

 

Or more simply that no opportunities were realized.

I contend that "seized" is simpler than "realized." It has less letters and less syllables.

1 minute ago, Agitel said:

which did not exist until 1000+ years after the Breakong,

Ok, we just moved the injustice back 2500 years. Progress!

IRL slavery goes back 1000's of years. If it weren't for people like Harriet Beecher Stowe, and Abraham Lincoln it might still be here. There are always opportunities in history to correct injustice. The fact that the some opportunities are not taken, does not correct or justify the injustice. The Universe of Jordan grinds slowly. Maybe if the people of Aridhol had not turned their backs on the World, a different, quicker, and more positive way to cleanse the 'taint would have been made available. Mebe 950 years before SL there were missed opportunities. The Jordan facts are that not a single opportunity was seized in 3500 years. 

9 minutes ago, Agitel said:

It took 3500 years for Gitara Moroso to be born and have a foretelling with Moiraine present for it?

And this was the only path to cure the 'taint? 

6 minutes ago, KakitaOCU said:

If you want a disease parallel, every male channeler is someone who has been bitten by a zombie

I don't remember any zombies struggling to do good. Except mebe in "Shaun Of The Dead."

5 minutes ago, Agitel said:

Yes, Moiraine was not acting on any idea of injustice for male channelers.

Nevertheless, male channelers were victims.  If 3500 years of bad business as usual, had continued, the Last Battle would have been lost. Constrain your vision to the time of the DR: Tradition was a losing proposition.

1 minute ago, KakitaOCU said:

That's like saying Measles was an obstacle to be overcome and mocking people in the 1700s for not just working to overcome it.

C'mon, man. The death penalty for measles? I won't have it!

But you are right, that IF it were impossible to find a solution, other mitigation was needed. That doesn't make it, necessarily, correct or justified.  Geniuses in our history made progress, to invent and cure things that were "impossible." Moiraine was the person who came along, like a Louis Pasteur with fireballs. This doesn't appear to be a World where things change very rapidly. Think back 3500 in human history, and judge why it took 3500 years for Moiraine to appear.

Just now, Sabio said:

Well if you think about it, Isn't that also what the Whitecloaks do?  They feel justified enforcing their "laws" and what they feel is right and wrong in any nation they come into

Exactually. In our history that was known as "The Inquisition." It doesn't have the best reputation, looking back.

2 minutes ago, Sabio said:

Well sort of easier to prove if a man can channel then if someone may of committed murder or some crime

Ok. You cornvinced me. Make up a "law" with the death penalty for some "offense." Then carry out the sentence summarily. Not gonna be vacationing there.

3 minutes ago, Theseus78 said:

but the treatment had a good chance of killing you too.

100% is a good chance. Or a fate worse than death, as The Medieval Mick Jagger (aka Thom) said. 3500 years of the wrong path was finally corrected when the Blessed Moiraine saw the Light.

4 minutes ago, Sabio said:

Why take the poor man all the way to the tower when the end result will be the same?

Why have trials for anyone? They wouldn't be accused if they weren't guilty?